Israel box office thread: 2022 admission numbers

[Tower]

[Tower]

22 Jump Street is keeping pace with Ted.

 

Wk	Hangover 2	Grown Ups 2	Johnny English 2	22 Jump Street	Ted
	26/05/2011	11/07/2013	13/10/2011	12/06/2014	09/08/2012
1:	519K/519K	348K/348K	309K/443K	362K/362K	281K/281K
2:	461K/1.18M	287K/779K	214K/838K	378K/879K	362K/834K
3:	357K/1.83M	235K/1.2M	135K/1.04M	304K/1.38M	317K/1.35M
4:	235K/2.16M	194K/1.52M	113K/1.19M		249K/1.69M
5:	184K/2.42M	167K/1.8M	76K/1.33M		210K/1.94M
6:	132K/2.67M	108K/2M	57K/1.4M		162K/2.16M
7:	107K/2.84M	65K/2.13M	35K/1.45M		158K/2.48M
8:	69K/2.95M	26K/2.17M	26K/1.45M		150K/2.67M
9:	44K/3.03M	39K/2.21M	16K/1.47M		131K/3.01M
10:	31K/3.09	13K/2.24M	10K/1.49M		80K/3.16M
TOTAL:	3.17M	2.3M	1.51M	879K	3.39M
PROJECTED				3-3.5M

 

[Hilderic]

Hopefully I won't start WW3 by asking this but does Israel box office also include the West Bank, Gaza Strip (are there any cinemas there?) and East Jerusalem? I assume East Jerusalem is included.

[Tower]

Hopefully I won't start WW3 by asking this but does Israel box office also include the West Bank, Gaza Strip (are there any cinemas there?) and East Jerusalem? I assume East Jerusalem is included.

I don't know. I would expect that anything from the Arab areas of the West Bank or Gaza, would be counted elsewhere, but I really have no idea.

[Hilderic]

Thanks for answering.

[xSabrinax]

Dragons 2 hold. 

[Tower]

Dragons 2 hold. 

 

I don't want to be too much of a downer, but that drop isn't very good considering the type of film and time of year.

Looking at previous films to open during the first week of summer holidays like this one:

 

Wk	Toy Story 3	Madagascar 3	Monsters U	HTTYD2
opening date	17/06/2010	21/06/2012	20/06/2013	19/06/2014
1:	391K/391K	381K/381K	257K/265K	225K
2:	413K/898K	377K/883K	234K/577K	204K/488K
3:	398K/1.49M	418K/1.33M	228K/1M
4:	341K/2.02M	331K/2.14M	151K/1.29M
5:	308K/2.51M	287K/2.61M	120K/1.5M
6:	218K/2.86M	221K/3.02M	116K/1.7M
7:	190K/3.31M	214K/3.4M	69K/1.86M
8:	142K/3.6M	161K/3.73M	??
9:	84K/3.78M	141K/4.03M	46K/2.08M
10:	97K/3.96M	129K/4.31M	47K/2.17M
TOTAL:	4.42M	4.51M	2.17M	488K
PROJECTED				2M
Weekend 2 change	5.60%	-1%	-8.70%	-9.40%
Weekend 3 change	-3.40%	11.10%	-2.10%

 

As you can see, HTTYD2 opened the worst of these and had the worst drop, so not very impressive.

[xSabrinax]

I know.

 

 

 

But I prefer a hold, than a 50% decrease.

[Tower]

I know.

 

 

 

But I prefer a hold, than a 50% decrease.

 

Certainly, but Israel isn't like some other markets. A drop of 30%, much less 50%, would be completely unheard of for an animated film in this time of year. A drop of 50% for HTTYD2 in Israel would be like a drop of 85% DOM, it was never an option in the first place.

 

You should remain happy about its run for a long time, as next week will probably see a better hold than this week (hopefully an increase), and there is no reason for it to ever drop 50%, unless it lasts until September when the school holiday ends and it will drop 70-80%. 

[xSabrinax]

Certainly, but Israel isn't like some other markets. A drop of 30%, much less 50%, would be completely unheard of for an animated film in this time of year. A drop of 50% for HTTYD2 in Israel would be like a drop of 85% DOM, it was never an option in the first place.

 

You should remain happy about its run for a long time, as next week will probably see a better hold than this week (hopefully an increase), and there is no reason for it to ever drop 50%, unless it lasts until September when the school holiday ends and it will drop 70-80%. 

okay 

[tupek]

So Dragon 2 has a chance of matching Rio 2?

[Tower]

So Dragon 2 has a chance of matching Rio 2?

 

It will probably finish a bit short, but there is definitely a chance.

[Tower]

[TServo2049]

Looking at BOM, Dragon 1 dropped 80% the weekend after Passover. It actually made half of its total gross over the Passover holiday (it increased almost 100% in its second weekend!)Two questions: Has the exchange rate changed since 2010, and have 3D percentages gone down? Even over Passover in a Jewish country, the $1m USD that HTTYD1 made in only 2 weeks looks kind of insane compared to the Israel numbers I'm seeing here. (Was it the 3D effect? Were 3D premiums higher relative to normal ticket prices than in the US? Avatar did huge numbers, of course, but so did Alice. Nothing else in 2010 seems to compare to those 3.)Do you know how the two Dragon films compare admissions-wise up to this point in their runs?

Edited July 9, 2014 by TServo2049

[Tower]

Looking at BOM, Dragon 1 dropped 80% the weekend after Passover. It actually made half of its total gross over the Passover holiday (it increased almost 100% in its second weekend!)Two questions: Has the exchange rate changed since 2010, and have 3D percentages gone down? Even over Passover in a Jewish country, the $1m USD that HTTYD1 made in only 2 weeks looks kind of insane compared to the Israel numbers I'm seeing here.Do you know how the two Dragon films compare admissions-wise up to this point in their runs?

Having huge increases for animated films is the norm, the two Dragon films will probably have pretty similar totals in the end, but their way of getting there will be completely different because of the different release dates. Don't really know about admissions or 3d percent, but I believe that 3d is down. As for exchange rate, the Dollar is a little weaker now, so it would give a small boost to the second one, but it's not a big difference. There is nothing special about 1M after the second weekend, HP8 made 1.2M just in its opening weekend, and was over 2.2M after its second weekend, and there have been plenty of other films to go well over 1M after the second weekend. In fact you can check out Alice that opened a week before HTTYD and had its first three weekends go 875K-817K-717K, or Smurfs with 958K-861K-652K-557K if you want huge runs by Israeli standards. Edited July 9, 2014 by Tower

[Tower]

22 Jump Street is still just ahead of Ted after the same amount of time.

 

Wk	Hangover 2	Grown Ups 2	Johnny English 2	22 Jump Street	Ted
	26/05/2011	11/07/2013	13/10/2011	12/06/2014	09/08/2012
1:	519K/519K	348K/348K	309K/443K	362K/362K	281K/281K
2:	461K/1.18M	287K/779K	214K/838K	378K/879K	362K/834K
3:	357K/1.83M	235K/1.2M	135K/1.04M	304K/1.38M	317K/1.35M
4:	235K/2.16M	194K/1.52M	113K/1.19M	219K/1.74M	249K/1.69M
5:	184K/2.42M	167K/1.8M	76K/1.33M		210K/1.94M
6:	132K/2.67M	108K/2M	57K/1.4M		162K/2.16M
7:	107K/2.84M	65K/2.13M	35K/1.45M		158K/2.48M
8:	69K/2.95M	26K/2.17M	26K/1.45M		150K/2.67M
9:	44K/3.03M	39K/2.21M	16K/1.47M		131K/3.01M
10:	31K/3.09	13K/2.24M	10K/1.49M		80K/3.16M
TOTAL:	3.17M	2.3M	1.51M	1.74M	3.39M
PROJECTED				3M

 

[Tower]

Comparison of animated summer openers:

 

Wk	Toy Story 3	Madagascar 3	Monsters U	HTTYD2
opening date	17/06/2010	21/06/2012	20/06/2013	19/06/2014
1:	391K/391K	381K/381K	257K/265K	225K/225K
2:	413K/898K	377K/883K	234K/577K	204K/488K
3:	398K/1.49M	418K/1.33M	228K/1M	226K/805K
4:	341K/2.02M	331K/2.14M	151K/1.29M
5:	308K/2.51M	287K/2.61M	120K/1.5M
6:	218K/2.86M	221K/3.02M	116K/1.7M
7:	190K/3.31M	214K/3.4M	69K/1.86M
8:	142K/3.6M	161K/3.73M	??
9:	84K/3.78M	141K/4.03M	46K/2.08M
10:	97K/3.96M	129K/4.31M	47K/2.17M
TOTAL:	4.42M	4.51M	2.17M	488K
PROJECTED				2M
Weekend 2 change	5.60%	-1%	-8.70%	-9.40%
Weekend 3 change	-3.40%	11.10%	-2.10%	10.80%

 

[xSabrinax]

One of the higher openings for a Sandler film, comedies are doing really well this year. Sabrina should be happy, this really is a good increase for HTTYD2, interesting to see where this winds up. Relatively high drop for 22JS but it's still OK. Transformers 4 drop is a little worse than the last one, unlikely to make a million.

I'm happy! 

 

Go Dragons! 

Edited July 12, 2014 by xSabrinax

[Tower]

[Tower]

Edited August 1, 2014 by Tower