StarLord Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 I've got some new numbers for Helios: FRI - ca. 29k tickets sold SAT - ca. 23k SUN - ca. 11k So according to my estimates this chain alone has sold 60-65k tickets in presales so far. There are still lots of available seats, even on Friday, as they added a lot of new shows on Tuesday afternoon/evening (doubled the number of shows in most theatres). Premium shows have been made avialable only on Tuesday as well, and they are filling up quickly. Combining this with @Pypa94numbers, I'd say that the three main chains in Poland have already sold over 75k tickets for Friday, over close to 60k for Saturday and close to 30k for Sunday = +160k fot the entire weekend. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danhjpn Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, StarLord said: I've got some new numbers for Helios: FRI - ca. 29k tickets sold SAT - ca. 23k SUN - ca. 11k So according to my estimates this chain alone has sold 60-65k tickets in presales so far. There are still lots of available seats, even on Friday, as they added a lot of new shows on Tuesday afternoon/evening (doubled the number of shows in most theatres). Premium shows have been made avialable only on Tuesday as well, and they are filling up quickly. Combining this with @Pypa94numbers, I'd say that the three main chains in Poland have already sold over 75k tickets for Friday, over close to 60k for Saturday and close to 30k for Sunday = +160k fot the entire weekend. $5M+ OW good chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarLord Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Based on the presales numbers I'd say admissions might reach 400k over the weekend, which at current exchange rates would mean around $1,8-2M. $5M would mean over 1M admissions and a new opening record. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pypa94 Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, StarLord said: Based on the presales numbers I'd say admissions might reach 400k over the weekend, which at current exchange rates would mean around $1,8-2M. $5M would mean over 1M admissions and a new opening record. What is the biggest pandemic OW? As you said you are BOZG so you we've been tracking numbers all this time 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pypa94 Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 Cinema City limit update: With new shows added they set 30% limitation for online sales. From 20-35 show per cinema in big cities, 10-20 in smaller ones. Presales for new shows is about 5-10% (from normal capacity) so it's pretty good. Also I've sneak peek on Sat and presales looks good specially early shows. Not so many soldouts but still pretty solid to me. That is on line with estimates from @StarLord Impressive OW for sure! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pypa94 Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 PRESALES UPDATE: Cinema City Friday D-01 over 35k Multikino Friday D-01 over 20k Assuming presales ratio in Helios: CC Fri 35k Sat 28k Sun 13k Multikino Fri 20k Sat 16k Sun 7,5k Helios Fri 29k Sat 23k Sun 11k overall 182,5k 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarLord Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 16 hours ago, Pypa94 said: What is the biggest pandemic OW? As you said you are BOZG so you we've been tracking numbers all this time 😁 The biggest pandemic OW is 440 360 admissions / $2,335M for No Time To Die. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarLord Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Pypa94 said: PRESALES UPDATE: Cinema City Friday D-01 over 35k Multikino Friday D-01 over 20k Assuming presales ratio in Helios: CC Fri 35k Sat 28k Sun 13k Multikino Fri 20k Sat 16k Sun 7,5k Helios Fri 29k Sat 23k Sun 11k overall 182,5k Adding other theaters outside the "big 3", the overall presales might hit 200k by the end of the day. But we'll never know for sure.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarLord Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 @Pypa94 - Thanks again for your time and effort. Based on the information gathered in this thread I've written an article on BOZG. There's also a shouout to you. http://boxoffice-bozg.pl/spider-man-bez-drogi-do-domu-podsumowanie-przedsprzedazy-i-prognoza-wyniku-otwarcia-w-polskich-kinach/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pypa94 Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, StarLord said: @Pypa94 - Thanks again for your time and effort. Based on the information gathered in this thread I've written an article on BOZG. There's also a shouout to you. http://boxoffice-bozg.pl/spider-man-bez-drogi-do-domu-podsumowanie-przedsprzedazy-i-prognoza-wyniku-otwarcia-w-polskich-kinach/ Thank you so much for a kind words I just like numbers but most of the time I don't have enough time to follow sales. With FFH had some spare time fortunately. Hope for good numbers, let's beat NTTD OW go big or go home 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pypa94 Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 OW adm. Avengers EG 3 days 548 204 4 days 702 090 4 days + previews 814 927 IW 3 days 271 279 4 days 334 901 4 days + previews 387 612 AoU 3 days 213 938 4 days 253 946 Avengers 3 days 125 751 Spider-Man's Spider-Man: Far From Home - 247 805 Spider-Man: Homecoming - 120 917 Spider-Man 3 - 92 381 Spider-Man - 80 000 Spider-Man 2 - 73 000 TASM 2 - 68 628 TASM - 37 637 For NWH: floor: HC + FFH or IW 4 days + previews (365-388k) should be at least: A1 + IW 3 days (about 400k) hope for: AoU 3 days + FFH (about 460k) Anything over NTTD (440k) will be a legit mindblowing. If somehow walk-ins can be stronger than we think and FFH will be close to EG 3 days I'm going home 😜 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pypa94 Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 TOP 10 OW CBM (3 days) 1. Avengers: Endgame - 548 204 (#16 of best OW) 2. Avengers: Infinity War - 271 279 3. Joker - 271 277 4. Spider-Man: Far From Home - 247 805 5. Captain Marvel - 245 464 6. Avengers: Age of Ultron - 213 938 7. Deadpool 2 - 209 194 8. Deadpool - 206 096 9. Iron Man 3 - 201 733 10. Guardians of the Galaxy vol. 2 - 191 309 NWH easily No 2 on that list above TOP 10 OW CBM (with previews) 1. Avengers: Endgame - 814 927 2. Avengers: Infinity War - 387 612 3. Deadpool 2 - 274 187 4. Joker - 271 277 5. Captain Marvel - 268 386 6. Avengers: Age of Ultron - 253 946 7. Spider-Man: Far From Home - 247 805 8. Iron Man 3 - 235 634 9. Thor: Ragnarok - 224 202 10. Deadpool - 206 096 NWH hope for No 2 on that list too, with a comfy difference (why not?) 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pypa94 Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 Significant HW OW (3 days): [over 380k] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 789 753 (#4 of best OW) Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies - 693 563 (#8) Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug - 612 956 (#10) Star Wars: The Last Jedi - 558 974 (#15) Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - 547 047 (#17) The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - 518 901 (#18) Spectre - 502 009 (#19) The Lion King (2019) - 470 680 (#22) The Lord of the Rings: Two Towers - 464 944 (#23) The Matrix Reloaded - 447 550 (#24) The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - 445 560 (#25) Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - 441 043 (#26) No Time To Die - 440 360 (#27) Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets - 425 203 (#31) The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 2 - 421 365 (#34) Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - 416 569 (#35) The Matrix Revolutions - 407 297 (#36) Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 - 397 991 (#37) Furious Seven - 390 519 (#39) Skyfall - 390 461 (#40) Rouge One: A Star Wars Story - 384 228 (#42) Should be floor for NWH to enter top 40 OW all time with a shot of top 25 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pypa94 Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) CBM OW other than SM and Avengers MCU OW 2021 Eternals - 133 484 Black Widow - 121 464 (+previews 142 839) Shang-Chi and the Legend of Ten Rings - 86 954 one movies Captain Marvel – 245 993 (+previews 268 386) Black Panther - 133 471 (4 days + previews 190 367) Doctor Strange - 101 148 (4 days + previews 135 121) The Incredible Hulk - 19 978 Iron Man Iron Man 3 – 201 733 (4 days 235 634) Iron Man 2 - 56 418 Iron Man - 38 095 Captain America Captain America: Civil War – 166 965 Captain America: Winter Soldier - 43 161 (4 days + previews 57 637) Captain America The First Avenger - 20 575 Thor Thor: Ragnarok - 166 632 (4 days + previews 224 202) Thor The Dark World - 138 609 Thor - 49 799 Guardians of the Galaxy Guardians of the Galaxy vol. 2 – 191 309 (+previews 205 759) Guardians of the Galaxy - 64 413 Ant-Man Ant-Man and the Wasp - 102 674 Ant-Man - 44 358 DCEU OW Joker - 271 277 Suicide Squad – 171 512 Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice - 119 237 Aquaman - 110 174 Justice League - 107 174 The Suicide Squad (2021) - 71 434 Shazam! - 79 808 Birds of Prey - 65 516 Wonder Woman - 58 155 Man of Steel - 55 586 Nolan's Batman OW The Dark Knight Rises - 158 581 The Dark Knight - 110 168 Batman: Begins - 40 000 (est)*** Fox X-Men/F4 OW Deadpool 2 – 209 194 (+previews 274 187) Deadpool – 206 096 Logan: Wolverine - 97 140 X-Men: Apocalypse - 50 974 X-Men: Days of Future Past - 45 412 X-Men: Dark Phoenix - 39 158 Origins: Wolverine - 34 002 X-Men: The Last Stand - 33 847 X2: X-Men United - 32 700 (est)** Wolverine - 31 042 Fantastic Four (2015) - 23 059 X-Men: First Class - 14 176 F4 (2005) - 12 500 F4: Silver Surfer - 11 158 Edited December 17, 2021 by Pypa94 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pypa94 Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 TOP 10 BEST December OW Star Wars The Force Awakens - 789 753 The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies - 693 563 Hobbit The Desolation of Smaug - 612 956 Star Wars: The Last Jedi - 558 974 The Hobbit: An Extraordinary Journey - 547 047 Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - 441 043 Rogue One. A Star Wars Story - 384 228 Avatar - 315 143 Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse - 162 136* Paddington 2 - 157 110* * I'm not sure that there is no bigger OW that No 9 and 10, rest is legit. NWH let's hope claim spot No 6 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarLord Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) I've been just informed by someone from the industry that Helios have sold 70k tickets by yesterday. This is the exact number that we eventually came up with regarding this chain here... Friday: 33k Saturday: 25k Sunday: 12k Edited December 17, 2021 by StarLord 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pypa94 Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) First shows have already started, but at 10 am local time (right now 😁) most cinemas have their first show though. Presales were good for early shows in most cities due to bookings from schools, for both sub and dub versions. Then around 12-1pm presales dropped a lot and walk-ins won't be significant. From 2pm presales peaked but huge boost in walki-ins I can see from 4-5pm after work. Evening and even late shows are already pretty packed. Plenty of shows and screens were dedicated to NWH which is understandable considering low 30% limitation. Although I saw on CC online sales that you can buy ticket over that 30% if you voluntarily mark as vaccinated (possibility wasn't available before) Edited December 17, 2021 by Pypa94 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pypa94 Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 I'm concerned with some situation in Multikino in Warsaw Zlote Tarasy. They don't use biggest screen available (788 seats) for evening shows, last show there starts at 1:55pm. Although on Saturday and Sunday are shows in evening 🤔 There is one possibility (but very unlikely considering tracking numbers for many days): they sold out it completely like day 1 or 2 after start of sale and removed from schedule 😅 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pypa94 Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 December OW - legs Avatar - OW 315 143 final 3 677 893 x11,67 Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - OW 441 043 final 2 076 731 x4,71 Rogue One. A Star Wars Story - OW 384 228 final 1 568 550 x4,08 The Hobbit: An Extraordinary Journey - OW 547 047 final 2 103 493 x3,84 Star Wars The Force Awakens - OW 789 753 final 2 995 000 x3,79 Star Wars: The Last Jedi - OW 558 974 final 2 094 952 x3,75 The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies - OW 693 563 final 2 243 564 x3,23 Hobbit The Desolation of Smaug - OW 612 956 final 1 930 793 x3,15 CBM OW - legs OW over 300k Avengers: Endgame - OW 548 204 final 1 880 080 x3,42 OW over 200k Joker - OW 271 277 final 1 954 335 x7,20 Avengers: Infinity War - OW 271 279 final 1 225 200 x4,52 Deadpool 2 - OW 209 194 final 841 800 x4,02 Deadpool - OW 206 096 final 756 950 x3,67 Spider-Man: Far From Home - OW 247 805 final 849 582 x3,43 Captain Marvel - OW 245 464 final 818 365 x3,33 Avengers: Age of Ultron - OW 213 938 final 697 489 x3,26 Iron Man 3 - OW 201 733 final 610 481 x3,03 OW over 150k (+Aquaman and SM:HC) Aquaman - OW 110 174 final 760 000 x6,90 Suicide Squad (2016) - OW 171 512 final 773 920 x4,51 The Dark Knight Rises - OW 158 581 final 684 543 x4,32 Thor: Ragnarok - OW 166 632 final 688 006 x4,13 Spider-Man: Homecoming - OW 120 917 final 493 000 x4,08 The Avengers - OW 125 751 final 502 041 x3,99 Guardians of the Galaxy vol. 2 - OW 191 309 final 574 920 x3,01 Captain America: Civil War - OW 166 965 final 497 347 x2,98 NWH seems to be locked to have legs between 3-4x. With 400K+ OW potencially we can have 1,5M+ final and #3 on biggest CBM (behind Joker and EG) If WOM kicks off here too as almost everywhere 2M with x5 from 400K, well why not? (would be first CBM ever) Beating NTTD OW (440K) 'only' needs x4,55 to beat 2M - on par with Suicide Squad (2016), IW or TROS (WOM Suicide Squad 6,1/10; TROS 6,0/10; IW 8,1/10) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danhjpn Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Pypa94 said: December OW - legs Avatar - OW 315 143 final 3 677 893 x11,67 Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - OW 441 043 final 2 076 731 x4,71 Rogue One. A Star Wars Story - OW 384 228 final 1 568 550 x4,08 The Hobbit: An Extraordinary Journey - OW 547 047 final 2 103 493 x3,84 Star Wars The Force Awakens - OW 789 753 final 2 995 000 x3,79 Star Wars: The Last Jedi - OW 558 974 final 2 094 952 x3,75 The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies - OW 693 563 final 2 243 564 x3,23 Hobbit The Desolation of Smaug - OW 612 956 final 1 930 793 x3,15 CBM OW - legs OW over 300k Avengers: Endgame - OW 548 204 final 1 880 080 x3,42 OW over 200k Joker - OW 271 277 final 1 954 335 x7,20 Avengers: Infinity War - OW 271 279 final 1 225 200 x4,52 Deadpool 2 - OW 209 194 final 841 800 x4,02 Deadpool - OW 206 096 final 756 950 x3,67 Spider-Man: Far From Home - OW 247 805 final 849 582 x3,43 Captain Marvel - OW 245 464 final 818 365 x3,33 Avengers: Age of Ultron - OW 213 938 final 697 489 x3,26 Iron Man 3 - OW 201 733 final 610 481 x3,03 OW over 150k (+Aquaman and SM:HC) Aquaman - OW 110 174 final 760 000 x6,90 Suicide Squad (2016) - OW 171 512 final 773 920 x4,51 The Dark Knight Rises - OW 158 581 final 684 543 x4,32 Thor: Ragnarok - OW 166 632 final 688 006 x4,13 Spider-Man: Homecoming - OW 120 917 final 493 000 x4,08 The Avengers - OW 125 751 final 502 041 x3,99 Guardians of the Galaxy vol. 2 - OW 191 309 final 574 920 x3,01 Captain America: Civil War - OW 166 965 final 497 347 x2,98 NWH seems to be locked to have legs between 3-4x. With 400K+ OW potencially we can have 1,5M+ final and #3 on biggest CBM (behind Joker and EG) If WOM kicks off here too as almost everywhere 2M with x5 from 400K, well why not? (would be first CBM ever) Beating NTTD OW (440K) 'only' needs x4,55 to beat 2M - on par with Suicide Squad (2016), IW or TROS (WOM Suicide Squad 6,1/10; TROS 6,0/10; IW 8,1/10) 2M admits ~$10M-15M ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...