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[Pypa94]

NWH NUMBERS update:

Well NO updates tbh, on sfp.org.pl - website where numbers of adm are published as we expected we don't have NWH numbers, BOM or the-numbers.com don't have gross too.

If UIP don't publish numbers, we will be screwed  

Hope for info about 1M adm - that should be next info from them (or if it holds well on 2nd WKD) 

[Pypa94]

On 4/6/2012 at 6:11 PM, Pypa94 said:

I'm a new moderator of this thread started in 2012 by ajde  

 

If you want to know how Poland Box Office works, first you have to know that the history of box office here has 4 phases:

1) before WW2 - no numbers, no data - the country was new, just from 1918 as a sovereign nation; 

2) just after the 2nd World War (1945-1949) - data are only from local, USSR and Czechoslovakia movies (but movies from other countries were in cinemas); 

3) from 1950-1989 - time under Soviet power, cinema was one of the best entertainment here and maybe only one place when people can see what's behind Iron Curtin - movies from RFN, France or the USA were postponed about 2 years but most of them were distributed here. In TV we had only one then two channels with propaganda from the government and that's it. That is why during that time in some years adm. of the year was like over 7 times bigger than population!

4) modern era after 1989 year - 1989 year was a year of political changes, first democratic elections and change from socialism to capitalism, in that year cinemas were more empty because of strikes etc. and cinemas started to became private rather than government's, TV was free from propaganda and some new channels were added. That's why people started to spend time in homes more often. 

 

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ALL TIME CHARTS

 

The most successful films of all time in gross (lc) since 1989
No.	PLN (lc)	Movie
1	105,261,308	Clergy (Kler)
2	105,089,063	Ogniem i mieczem
3	88,329,136	Avatar
4	82,839,843	Pan Tadeusz
5	69,045,592	Quo Vadis
6	65,204,800	Listy do M. 3
7	62,767,218	Star Wars: The Force Awakens
8	58,522,569	Pitbull: Niebezpieczne kobiety
9	54,638,129	Shrek Forever
10	54,004,780	Listy do M. 2

 

The most successful films of all time in gross ($) since 1989 [est.]
No.	USD ($)	Movie
1	$28,274,637	Clergy (Kler)
2	$26,366,071	Ogniem i mieczem
3	$26,135,805	Avatar
4	$20,879,608	Pan Tadeusz
5	$18,484,522	Lejdis
6	$18,014,551	Shrek the Third
7	$17,725,599	Listy do M. 3
8	$17,262,308	Shrek Forever
9	$16,863,883	Quo Vadis
10	$16,685,439	Star Wars: The Force Awakens

 

The most successful films since in admission since 1989
No.	Admission	Movie
1	7,154,579	Ogniem i mieczem
2	6,168,344	Pan Tadeusz
3	5,198,730	Clergy (Kler)
4	4,302,445	Quo Vadis
5	3,766,267	Avatar
6	3,650,536	Titanic
7	3,462,021	The Passion of the Christ
8	3,395,226	Shrek 2
9	3,352,805	Shrek the Third
10	3,009,971	Listy do M. 3

 

The best starts ever in admission since 1989
No.	Admission	Movie
1	935,357	Clergy (Kler)
2	834,479	Fifty Shades of Grey
3	793,731	Shrek the Third
4	789,568	Star Wars: The Force Awakens
5	767,519	Pitbull: Niebezpieczne kobiety
6	736,812	Listy do M. 3
7	711,906	Botoks
8	693,563	The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies
9	658,746	Polityka
10	628,625	Kobiety mafii

 

The 2nd weekend ever in admission since 2002
No.	Admission	Movie
1	772,316	Clergy (Kler)
2	524,455	Planeta Singli
3	495,990	Shrek the Third
4	493,190	Listy do M. 3
5	454,488	Pitbull: Niebezpieczne kobiety
6	445,873	Miszmasz, czyli Kogel-Mogel 3
7	434,401	Listy do M. 2
8	433,138	Shrek 2
9	422,088	Star Wars: The Force Awakens
10	413,034	The Passion of the Christ

 

 

The 3rd weekend ever in admission since 2002
No.	Admission	Movie
1	448,899	Clergy (Kler)
2	387,917	Frozen II
3	352,615	The Passion of the Christ
4	274,252	Lejdis
5	266,681	Listy do M. 2
6	266,619	The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
7	260,118	Avatar
8	258,637	Shrek Fovever
9	257,893	Pitbull: Niebezpieczne kobiety
10	253,963	Listy do M. 3

 

The 4th weekend ever in admission since 2002
No.	Admission	Movie
1	294,791	Clergy (Kler)
2	287,903	The Passion of the Christ
3	238,009	Listy do M. 2
4	220,521	Avatar
5	220,134	Listy do M.
6	192,340	Lejdis
7	191,304	Frozen II
8	170,967	The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
9	160,092	Listy do M. 3
10	160,058	Katyń

 

The 5th weekend ever in admission since 2002
No.	Admission	Movie
1	199,384	The Passion of the Christ
2	197,437	Clergy (Kler)
3	189,822	Listy do M.
4	185,901	Avatar
5	181,690	Listy do M. 3
6	157,596	Listy do M. 2
7	135,225	Pitbull: Niebezpieczne kobiety
8	129,768	Katyń
9	120,872	Lejdis
10	117,949	Bogowie

 

Because of lack of news about NWH I updated first post with all-time charts. More will likely to come later

[Pypa94]

MATRIX RESURRECTIONS

OW 3 days: c.a. 47k

OW 5 days: c.a. 116k 

 

Matrix

OW (no data) CUME 801 450

 

Matrix Reloaded

OW 447 550 CUME 1 637 554

 

Matrix Revolutions

OW 279 473 CUME 973 404

 

WOM (filmweb.pl)

Matrix - 7,6/817 829

Matrix Reloaded - 7,2/235 253

Matrix Revolutions - 7,1/212 678

MATRIX RESURRECTIONS - 5,1/9 270

 

Multikino website

Matrix Resurrections 6,51/176

 

Weak OW and bad WOM but good Holiday time and some nostalgy can help Matrix crowl to maybe 400k.

http://sporwkinie.blogspot.com/2021/12/nowy-matrix-w-polsce-wystartowa-skromnie.html#more

Edited December 28, 2021 by Pypa94

[Pypa94]

FINALLY SOME UPDATES!

UIP informed about crossing over 1M admission since premier in less than 2 weeks (probably crossed on 29.12, 13 day)

This weekend should be a lot bigger than last weekend. IW numbers (1 225 000) after this WKD probable  

Maybe 1,5M after first week of January. 

 

NTTD had 1M in similar number of days. Cume is over 1,61M.

NTTD had twice bigger 2nd WKD than NWH but NWH has way more higher weekdays, @StarLord on his website (link: http://boxoffice-bozg.pl/bozonarodzeniowe-pustki-jak-na-wielkanoc-oficjalnym-numerem-jeden-matrix-zmartwychwstania-podsumowanie-weekendu-w-polskich-kinach/) suggested c.a. 110k 2nd WKD and 200k Mon-Wed while NTTD 267k 2nd WKD and Mon-Th 145,5k.

 

Hope for beating final number of NTTD

Edited December 31, 2021 by Pypa94

[StarLord]

I think that NWH will eventually cross 1,5M admissions (1,52-1,53M) but won't reach NTTD final number (approx. 1,65M). And I also think that stupid UIP will provide no further updates regarding NWH, unfortunately..

[Pypa94]

27 minutes ago, StarLord said:

I think that NWH will eventually cross 1,5M admissions (1,52-1,53M) but won't reach NTTD final number (approx. 1,65M). And I also think that stupid UIP will provide no further updates regarding NWH, unfortunately..

Hope you're wrong with that 😜 Let's have SH over classic action guy 🤗 I think this passing weekend would give us an answer but lack of updates won't be able to prove one way or another... UIP if you listen - £U€% ¥○U 😁

[Pypa94]

2022 forecast in adm. 

 

January

over 2M

Koniec świata czyli Kogel Mogel 4 (local) [7.01] - tbh I don't know if 2M is possible considering really bad WOM of 3rd part but with NWH numbers we can see anything is possible (although personally hope not crossing 2M)

over 1,5M

Sing 2 [21.01] - 1st part was over 1,6M

over 1M

8 rzeczy, których nie wiecie o facetach (local) [28.01] - sequel of romantic comedy from 2016 (1,1M; average WOM) with good/average WOM possible 1M and more

over 500K

Scream [14.01] - 3rd part had over 300k and horror movies are quite popular, good WOM should help

Morbius [28.01] - Jared Leto is quite popular here and SH/CBM movies gaining year after year so maybe even closer to 1M, who knows

others: The King's Man [5.01] - idk because 1) first 2 parts didn't crossed 250k each but 2) now movie is most anticipated movie on filmweb.pl for January and February - let's just see what will happen

 

February

over 2M

over 1,5M

over 1M

Miłość, seks & pandemia (local) [4.02] - another movie of the most busy director in Poland - Patryk Vega, who delivers 2-3 movies a year - this one is about covid times so has potencial, pros: topic and core fans; cons: quality of previous movies was mediocre at most

over 500K

Moonfall [4.02] - catastrophic movie and Emmerich on board: should have no problem to cross this

Death on the Nile [11.02] - Murder on the Orient Express was close to 500K, if WOM is better, this should beat it

Miłość jest blisko (local) [11.02] - another romantic comedy, depends on WOM and performance of 8 rzeczy, których nie wiecie o facetach

Dog [18.02] - animals as main/co-main characters are quite popular and that's all what I can say 😜 

others: Uncharted [11.02] - games adaptations are not popular at all, but WOM and actors could help, either bomb or explode, will see  

 

 

March

over 2M

over 1,5M

over 1M

The Batman [4.03] - first SH of the year and good score hope, Joker with awesome WOM claimed the crown of SH movies

over 500K

Szczęścia chodzą parami (local) [11.03] - same story like Miłość jest blisko and 8 rzeczy, których nie wiecie o facetach

Inni ludzie (local) [18.03] - very good rated on movie festival in September, WOM will be leverage 

others: The Lost City [25.03] - potential of movie is really good, cast and topic but could easily bomb here too

 

TBC

 

Spoiler

April

over 2M

over 1,5M

over 1M

Sonic the Hedgehog 2

The Bad Guys

over 500K

Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore

others: Operation Fortune: Ruse de guerre; The Northman

 

May

over 2M

over 1,5M

over 1M

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness

over 500K

Top Gun: Maverick

others:

 

June

over 2M

over 1,5M

over 1M

Lightyear

over 500K

Jurassic World: Dominion

others:

 

July

over 2M

over 1,5M

Minions: The Rise of Gru

over 1M

Thor: Love and Thunder

over 500K

Black Adam

others:

 

August

over 2M

over 1,5M

over 1M

over 500K

others: After Ever Happy

 

September

over 2M

over 1,5M

Puss in Boots: The Last Wish

over 1M

Mission: Impossible 7

over 500K

others:

 

October

over 2M

over 1,5M

over 1M

over 500K

Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse - Part One

Halloween Ends

others:

 

November

over 2M

over 1,5M

Strange World

over 1M

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

over 500K

The Flash

Creed III

others:

 

December

over 2M

Avatar 2

over 1,5M

over 1M

Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom

over 500K

others:

 

 

[StarLord]

Well, it looks like they might close down the cinemas soon again... Nothing's confirmed yet but there is something going on from what I've heard.

 

Anyway, here's my estimate for No Way Home after the third WE: 1,265M admissions.

 

1st WE: 450k, after 1st week: 670k

2nd WE: 115k, after 2nd week: 1,1M

3rd WE: 165k; after 3rd weekend: 1,265M

 

However, we only know the 1st WE number and that the movie reached 1M on the 2nd Wednesday (13th day of release)...

 

Prediction for the 4th weekend: There are two major movies opening this weekend (Kogel Mogel 4 and Sing 2) but on the other hand it's a long weekend with a holiday on Thursday which should help all movies to avoid very big drops. So if my 3rd weekend's estimate is accurate, No Way Home might have close to 100k this coming weekend and perhaps close to 1,45M after the fourth WE. But again, these are only rough estimates...

Edited January 5, 2022 by StarLord

[Pypa94]

11 hours ago, StarLord said:

Well, it looks like they might close down the cinemas soon again... Nothing's confirmed yet but there is something going on from what I've heard.

 

Anyway, here's my estimate for No Way Home after the third WE: 1,265M admissions.

 

1st WE: 450k, after 1st week: 670k

2nd WE: 115k, after 2nd week: 1,1M

3rd WE: 165k; after 3rd weekend: 1,265M

 

However, we only know the 1st WE number and that the movie reached 1M on the 2nd Wednesday (13th day of release)...

 

Prediction for the 4th weekend: There are two major movies opening this weekend (Kogel Mogel 4 and Sing 2) but on the other hand it's a long weekend with a holiday on Thursday which should help all movies to avoid very big drops. So if my 3rd weekend's estimate is accurate, No Way Home might have close to 100k this coming weekend and perhaps close to 1,45M after the fourth WE. But again, these are only rough estimates...

So NWH is already 3rd biggest SHM behind EG and Joker (ahead of IW). It's also 2nd biggest of 2021 behind NTTD let's hope for 1,5M maybe that would push UIP to give us info about crossing this point 

[Pypa94]

NWH vs NTTD

1st WE: est. 450k vs 440 360

1st weekdays: est. 220k vs 213 525 (cume: est. 670k vs 653 885)

2nd WE: est. 115k vs 267 848 (cume: est. 785k vs 921 733)

2nd weekdays: est. 310k vs 145 444 (cume: est. 1,1M vs 1 067 177)

3rd WE: est. 165k vs 172 814 (cume: est. 1,265M vs 1 239 991)

3rd weekdays: prog. 85k vs 75 614 (cume: prog. 1,350M vs 1 315 605)

4th WE: prog. 100k vs 78 782 (cume: prog. 1,45M vs 1 394 387)

4th weekdays: prog. 20k vs 38 482 

AFTER 4 weeks: prog. 1,47M vs 1 432 869

Spoiler

 

NTTD

5th WE: 45 623 (cume: 1 478 492)

5th weekdays: 27 131 (cume: 1 505 623) [crossed 1,5M after 34 days]

6th WE: 33 481 (cume: 1 539 104)

6th weekdays: 20 374 (cume: 1 559 478)

7th WE: 25 971 (cume: 1 585 849)

FULL RUN est. 1,65M (http://boxoffice-bozg.pl/matrix-zmartwychwstania-znow-oficjalnym-numerem-jeden-ale-takze-jedynym-filmem-ze-spadkiem-podsumowanie-weekendu-w-polskich-kinach/)

 

Sing 2 will take kids and Kogel-Mogel 4 (local) will take adults but delaying Morbius could help a bit to NWH. NTTD had Dune and Furioza (local) but still hold well. 

 

WOM

NWH vs NTTD

filmweb.pl

8,2/31 956 vs 7,0/52 834

multikino.pl

8,67/1 630 vs 7,83/1 155

naekranie.pl

8,9 vs 7,4

Edited January 6, 2022 by Pypa94

[Pypa94]

http://boxoffice-bozg.pl/matrix-zmartwychwstania-znow-oficjalnym-numerem-jeden-ale-takze-jedynym-filmem-ze-spadkiem-podsumowanie-weekendu-w-polskich-kinach/

thanks @StarLord  

Matrix Ressurections

1st WE 46 890

1st weekdays 123 749

2nd WE 43 947 (-6,3%)

cume 283 860

 

Dziewczyny z Dubaju (local) 5th movie to cross 1M adm. (NTTD, NWH, Dune, Paw Patrol: The Movie) cume: 1 008 791

 

TOP 5 2021

1. NTTD c.a. 1,65M

2. NWH c.a. 1,265M

3. Paw Patrol: The Movie c.a. 1,23M

4. Dune 1 021 481

5. Dziewczyny z Dubaju (local) 1 008 791

 

[Pypa94]

As we mentioned before UIP distribiuted movies don't get accured numbers because UIP in 2019 stopped reporting them to boxoffice.pl - company collecting this numbers. That's why sfp.org.pl, which public WE numbers, doesn't have them in their charts and only when UIP claim that movie is a success, they show numbers on their FB page or website. As Poland is not a large market in case of gross, normally it's not in top 10 international for particular movie, so gross is unknown for BOM and the-numbers.com too.

Unfortunately many movies in incoming months are distribiuted by UIP...

 

2022

Sing 2 [21.01]

Marry Me [11.02]

Wolf [18.02]

Uncharted [18.02]

Belfast [25.02]

Red Rocket [11.03]

Downton Abbey: A New Era [18.03]

The Lost City [25.03]

Ambulance [25.03]

Sonic the Hedgehog 2 [1.04]

Morbius [1.04]

The Northman [22.04]

65 [29.04]

Mrs. Harris Goes to Paris [6.05]

Bad Guys [27.05]

Top Gun: Maverick [27.05]

Jurassic World: Dominion [10.06]

Oh Hell No [17.06]

The Black Phone [24.06]

Minions: The Rise of Gru [1.07]

Bullet Train [15.07]

Under The Boardwalk [22.07]

Nope [22.07]

Where The Crawdads Sing [29.07]

Secret Headqauters [12.08]

BROS [12.08]

Beast [19.08]

The Bride [26.08]

Man from Toronto [2.09]

Puss in Boots: The Last Wish [23.09]

Ticket to Paradise [30.09]

Mission: Impossible 7 [30.09]

Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse Part 1 [7.10]

Halloween Ends [21.10]

She Said [25.11]

Violent Night [2.12]

Lyle, Lyle [2.12]

I Wanna Dance with Somebody [23.12]

 

2023

Mario [6.01]

Babylon [6.01]

Kraven The Hunter [13.01]

Harold and The Purple Crayon [27.01]

Knock at The Cabin [3.02]

The Tiger's Apprentice [10.02]

Tar [24.02]

Dungeons & Dragons [3.03]

Untitled A Quiet Place [14.04]

Fast & Furious 10 [19.05]

Untitled Dreamworks Animation [26.05]

 

Transformers: Rise of the Beasts [9.06]

Untitled Sony/Marvel Universe [23.06]

Mission: Impossible 8 [7.07]

Oppenheimer [21.07]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles [11.08]

Paw Patrol: The Mighty Movie [13.10]

The Shrinking of Theehorn [10.11]

Trolls 3 [1.12]

Untitled Star Trek [22.12]

 

And for 2022 and especially for 2023 there are many untitled yet movies didn't mentioned here.

[StarLord]

Currently, I am preparing an article with my estimates for 2021 UIP movies, so stay tuned.

 

BTW, a couple of days ago, in an article in Gazeta Wyborcza, it's been revealed that the UIP movies sold 6,53M tickets in 2021:

 

Quote

In 2021, Polish cinemas had 21.8 million viewers, not counting those on UIP films. The President of UIP, Urszula Malska, informed me in a text message that their films had 6.53 million viewers in 2021, which together gives 28.33 million viewers. This is better than in the lockdown year 2020 (17 million, also not counting UIP films), but much worse than in the pre-pandemic year 2019 (61 million).

 

https://wyborcza.pl/7,101707,27972390,na-co-chodzilismy-do-kina-w-2021-jeden-film-zdeklasowal-reszte.html

Edited January 9, 2022 by StarLord

[Pypa94]

23 minutes ago, StarLord said:

Currently, I am preparing an article with my estimates for 2021 UIP movies, so stay tuned.

 

BTW, a couple of days ago, in an article in Gazeta Wyborcza, it's been revealed that the UIP movies sold 6,53M tickets in 2021:

 

 

https://wyborcza.pl/7,101707,27972390,na-co-chodzilismy-do-kina-w-2021-jeden-film-zdeklasowal-reszte.html

For addiction to article I recommend this: http://boxoffice-bozg.pl/bond-mesjasz-z-arrakis-dziewczyny-z-dubaju-i-znow-pandemia-podsumowanie-2021-roku-w-polskich-kinach/ @StarLord again with awesome job  

I can't wait for your UIP's sum up  

[Shanks]

1 hour ago, Pypa94 said:

For addiction to article I recommend this: http://boxoffice-bozg.pl/bond-mesjasz-z-arrakis-dziewczyny-z-dubaju-i-znow-pandemia-podsumowanie-2021-roku-w-polskich-kinach/ @StarLord again with awesome job  

I can't wait for your UIP's sum up  

 

We know,

Dune - 1m Tix - roughly $5.1m ATP is 5.1$

NTTD - 1.65m Tix - roughly $8.2m ATP is 4.96$

 

Then, Supposedly NWH has reached 1.45m tickets sold, How much would be that in gross?  Can I assume 7.25m USD Gross till this week?

 

 

Edited January 9, 2022 by Shanks

[Pypa94]

1 hour ago, Shanks said:

 

We know,

Dune - 1m Tix - roughly $5.1m ATP is 5.1$

NTTD - 1.65m Tix - roughly $8.2m ATP is 4.96$

 

Then, Supposedly NWH has reached 1.45m tickets sold, How much would be that in gross?  Can I assume 7.25m USD Gross till this week?

I would say just a bit more than $7M. For sure ATP for NWH is lower than NTTD maybe $4,8-4,85

[StarLord]

Here's my article with estimates for the UIP movies. It's in Polish.

http://boxoffice-bozg.pl/zaginione-filmy-polskiego-box-officeu-w-2021-roku/

 

However, I've translated the charts into English.

1. Data regarding gross from The Numbers and/or Box Office Mojo. As you can see, there is no much data available, especially for Sony movies...

 

2. Estimated opening and totals (admissions). It's basend on available gross data from the charts above, my knowledge of box office / gut feeling and historical data (e.g. comparison to the box office of previous movies in a franchise, etc.):

 

3. How the best-selling movies of 2021 charts might have looked like if UIP published their numbers as other distributers do...

Edited January 11, 2022 by StarLord

[Legion Again]

The powah of PAW 

Edited January 11, 2022 by Product Driven Legion

[Pypa94]

1 hour ago, StarLord said:

Here's my article with estimates for the UIP movies. It's in Polish.

http://boxoffice-bozg.pl/zaginione-filmy-polskiego-box-officeu-w-2021-roku/

 

However, I've translated the charts into English.

1. Data regarding gross from The Numbers and/or Box Office Mojo. As you can see, there is no much data available, especially for Sony movies...

 

2. Estimated opening and totals (admissions). It's basend on available gross data from the charts above, my knowledge of box office / gut feeling and historical data (e.g. comparison to the box office of previous movies in a franchise, etc.):

 

3. How the best-selling movies of 2021 charts might have looked like if UIP published their numbers as other distributers do...

Awesome job as always 🤗

[Pypa94]

On 12/28/2021 at 3:47 PM, Pypa94 said:

MATRIX RESURRECTIONS

OW 3 days: c.a. 47k

OW 5 days: c.a. 116k 

 

Matrix

OW (no data) CUME 801 450

 

Matrix Reloaded

OW 447 550 CUME 1 637 554

 

Matrix Revolutions

OW 279 473 CUME 973 404

 

WOM (filmweb.pl)

Matrix - 7,6/817 829

Matrix Reloaded - 7,2/235 253

Matrix Revolutions - 7,1/212 678

MATRIX RESURRECTIONS - 5,1/9 270

 

Multikino website

Matrix Resurrections 6,51/176

 

Weak OW and bad WOM but good Holiday time and some nostalgy can help Matrix crowl to maybe 400k.

http://sporwkinie.blogspot.com/2021/12/nowy-matrix-w-polsce-wystartowa-skromnie.html#more

Matrix Resurrections is holding pretty well 

OW 46 890

5 days 116 164

2nd WE 43 947 (-6,7%)

3rd WE 31 801 (-28%)

cume 365 204

 

close 500k possible maybe cross it too

 

WOM

filmweb.pl 5,2/22 534

Multikino 6,41/430