BO Germany/Austria: Deadpool&Wolverine #1

[Issac Newton]

Austria

1. Wish - €300K (i.p. €464K)
2. Napoleon - €215K / €820K
3. The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds &Snakes - €134K / €1M

[IndustriousAngel]

Germany's Top14 last weekend:

	title	admissions	th.	PTA	total adm.	total €	drop	week
1	Wish	206.199	644	320	339.864	3.019.574	-	1
2	Napoleon	144.646	650	223	490.920	5.700.746	-47	2
3	Hunger Games Prequel	137.059	670	205	922.187	10.411.933	-40	3
4	Saw 10	93.560	389	241	116.230	1.222.744	-	1
5	The Marvels	21.148	379	56	417.599	4.602.308	-57	4
6	Godzilla Minus One	17.473	228	77	17.473	187.623	-	1
7	Checker Tobi 2	15.978	580	28	999.806	7.417.939	-52	9
8	Renaissance	15.584	94	166	15.584	297.978	-	1
9	Trolls 3	14.085	501	28	727.216	6.224.861	-57	7
10	Sur les chemins noirs	11.241	129	87	19.251	173.620	-	1
11	Ein ganzes Leben	11.233	299	38	158.860	1.480.374	-51	4
12	Thanksgiving	11.156	315	35	99.567	1.011.289	-61	3
13	Die unlangweiligste Schule der Welt	10.750	436	25	281.250	2.108.964	-49	6
14	Neue Geschichten vom Pumuckl	10.284	407	25	326.366	2.279.891	-64	6

Usually, it's fine weather that has a negative impact on Germany's BO but this time, heavy snowfalls in the south led to a poorer-than-expected weekend. Wish opened softer than expected after the strong previews, but Saw 10 had a good OW and Renaissance also a good PTA.

In Austria, similar numbers but everything a bit higher, we had 4 releases in the 5-digit range for the 3-day-WE, plus a domestic dramedy on #5.

Next weekend: Wonka will probably be the biggest opener; the book is not that well-known in Germany but the 2005 Burton movie topped >1mil admissions so I'd say it has a decent chance to become #1 over the weekend. Also opening: Domestic dramedy Das Beste kommt noch (remake of a french one) which will probably not make a big splash.

[Taylor89]

20 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:

Germany's Top14 last weekend:

 

 

	title	admissions	th.	PTA	total adm.	total €	drop	week
1	Wish	206.199	644	320	339.864	3.019.574	-	1
2	Napoleon	144.646	650	223	490.920	5.700.746	-47	2
3	Hunger Games Prequel	137.059	670	205	922.187	10.411.933	-40	3
4	Saw 10	93.560	389	241	116.230	1.222.744	-	1
5	The Marvels	21.148	379	56	417.599	4.602.308	-57	4
6	Godzilla Minus One	17.473	228	77	17.473	187.623	-	1
7	Checker Tobi 2	15.978	580	28	999.806	7.417.939	-52	9
8	Renaissance	15.584	94	166	15.584	297.978	-	1
9	Trolls 3	14.085	501	28	727.216	6.224.861	-57	7
10	Sur les chemins noirs	11.241	129	87	19.251	173.620	-	1
11	Ein ganzes Leben	11.233	299	38	158.860	1.480.374	-51	4
12	Thanksgiving	11.156	315	35	99.567	1.011.289	-61	3
13	Die unlangweiligste Schule der Welt	10.750	436	25	281.250	2.108.964	-49	6
14	Neue Geschichten vom Pumuckl	10.284	407	25	326.366	2.279.891	-64	6

Usually, it's fine weather that has a negative impact on Germany's BO but this time, heavy snowfalls in the south led to a poorer-than-expected weekend. Wish opened softer than expected after the strong previews, but Saw 10 had a good OW and Renaissance also a good PTA.

In Austria, similar numbers but everything a bit higher, we had 4 releases in the 5-digit range for the 3-day-WE, plus a domestic dramedy on #5.

Next weekend: Wonka will probably be the biggest opener; the book is not that well-known in Germany but the 2005 Burton movie topped >1mil admissions so I'd say it has a decent chance to become #1 over the weekend. Also opening: Domestic dramedy Das Beste kommt noch (remake of a french one) which will probably not make a big splash.

 

 

Can you pls explain what PTA means?  was it limited?

[Issac Newton]

17 minutes ago, Taylor89 said:

 

 

Can you pls explain what PTA means?  was it limited?

Per Theatre Average.

[Taylor89]

3 hours ago, Issac Newton said:

Per Theatre Average.

 

Thanks

 

[IndustriousAngel]

17 hours ago, Taylor89 said:

 

 

Can you pls explain what PTA means?  was it limited?

The PTA number is just the number of admissions divided by the number of theaters it's playing in and as such is a very unspecific number; sadly we don't get per-screen or even per-show numbers. But when you take in the genre / format, it can be interpreted in a sensible way.

As an example, last week's Wish had a PTA of 320 - but as a family release it was playing during the day and even a lot of shows in the evening, often on more than one screen. So this PTA is actually pretty poor for an OW (ok, a lot of pressure has been taken out by already wide previews the WE before).

Otoh, Renaissance had a PTA of "only" 166 but it was only playing in the evening and mostly on smaller screens; in some theaters only one show / day. So those 166 are a good number, and the per-show-admissions must have been a lot higher than Wish's.

 

[Taylor89]

7 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:

The PTA number is just the number of admissions divided by the number of theaters it's playing in and as such is a very unspecific number; sadly we don't get per-screen or even per-show numbers. But when you take in the genre / format, it can be interpreted in a sensible way.

As an example, last week's Wish had a PTA of 320 - but as a family release it was playing during the day and even a lot of shows in the evening, often on more than one screen. So this PTA is actually pretty poor for an OW (ok, a lot of pressure has been taken out by already wide previews the WE before).

Otoh, Renaissance had a PTA of "only" 166 but it was only playing in the evening and mostly on smaller screens; in some theaters only one show / day. So those 166 are a good number, and the per-show-admissions must have been a lot higher than Wish's.

 

 

Thanks.💜

[el sid]

The quite nice first trend from insidekino.de:

#1 Wonka 360k
#2 Wish 200k (flat)/592.5k total admissions
#3 Hunger Games 125k/1.090
or Napoleon 120k/655k
#5 Saw X 80k/220k

...
Das Beste kommt noch! 27.5k
BlackBerry 17.5k
Fast perfekte Weihnachten 5k

[el sid]

The second trend from insidekino.de - some decreases:

#1 Wonka 360k
#2 Wish 200k
#3 Hunger Games 112.5k
#4 Napoleon 112.5k
#5 Saw X 70k

...

Das Beste kommt noch! 25k
BlackBerry 17.5k
Fast perfekte Weihnachten 5k

[el sid]

The mostly ugly final trend from insidekino.de:

#1 Wonka 325k
#2 Wish 210k
#3 Napoleon 110k
#4 Hunger Games 107.5k
#5 Saw X 67.5k
...
Das Beste kommt noch! 25k
BlackBarry 17.5k
Fast perfekte Weihnachten 5k

[Brainbug]

On 12/8/2023 at 2:19 PM, el sid said:

The quite nice first trend from insidekino.de:

 

1 minute ago, el sid said:

The mostly ugly final trend from insidekino.de:

 

Not the evolution i wanted to see

[Youngstar]

2 hours ago, el sid said:

The mostly ugly final trend from insidekino.de:

#1 Wonka 325k
#2 Wish 210k
#3 Napoleon 110k
#4 Hunger Games 107.5k
#5 Saw X 67.5k
...
Das Beste kommt noch! 25k
BlackBarry 17.5k
Fast perfekte Weihnachten 5k

So Wish is going up from last weekend? That's good at least, right?

[el sid]

5 hours ago, Youngstar said:

So Wish is going up from last weekend? That's good at least, right?

Yes, that's good :). 

Mark_G predicted 1.2M final admissions for Wish last week and now it came in a little bit above expectations, so it should maybe get 1.25M (?).

[IndustriousAngel]

28 minutes ago, el sid said:

Yes, that's good :). 

Mark_G predicted 1.2M final admissions for Wish last week and now it came in a little bit above expectations, so it should maybe get 1.25M (?).

depending on wom, it might play very well through xmas holidays, so there's potential for more. 2mil seem out of reach but 1,5 should be doable

[titanic2187]

8 hours ago, el sid said:

The mostly ugly final trend from insidekino.de:

#1 Wonka 325k
#2 Wish 210k
#3 Napoleon 110k
#4 Hunger Games 107.5k
#5 Saw X 67.5k
...
Das Beste kommt noch! 25k
BlackBarry 17.5k
Fast perfekte Weihnachten 5k

Too much drop for wonka. Not sure how can German cinema to cope this year end without a 10m juggernaut like avatar 2.

[IndustriousAngel]

9 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

Too much drop for wonka. Not sure how can German cinema to cope this year end without a 10m juggernaut like avatar 2.

This will be the worst post-2000 year yet (except Covid lockdown years), there's no denying that fact. Even if Dune2 would have opened in its intended slot, that would make little difference in the end ...

[Brainbug]

7 minutes ago, IndustriousAngel said:

This will be the worst post-2000 year yet (except Covid lockdown years), there's no denying that fact. Even if Dune2 would have opened in its intended slot, that would make little difference in the end ...

 

No worrys, looking at 2024's line-up of movies, next year will make this year look solid.

[el sid]

The Monday update from insidekino.de:

#1 Wonka 320k
#2 Wish 210k/602.5k total admissions
#3 Napoleon 112.5k/647.5k
#4 Hunger Games 110k/1.072.5M
#5 Saw X 70k/207.5k

...

Das Beste kommt noch! 25k
BlackBerry 17k
Fast perfekte Weihnachten 5k

[IndustriousAngel]

Germany's Top12 last weekend:

	title	admissions	th.	PTA	total adm.	total €	drop	week
1	Wonka	292.363	668	438	328.295	3.199.393	-	1
2	Wish	212.096	648	327	602.801	5.284.902	+3	2
3	Napoleon	112.274	694	162	649.391	7.497.216	-22	3
4	Hunger Games Prequel	109.032	578	189	1.075.961	12.072.974	-20	4
5	Saw 10	69.579	409	170	208.473	2.184.167	-26	2
6	Das Beste kommt noch!	21.095	342	62	25.514	249.783	-	1
7	Checker Tobi 2	15.626	495	32	1.017.426	7.542.809	-2	10
8	Morgen, Findus, wird's was geben	15.314	79	194	65.755	254.436	+	837
-	Andre Rieu's White Christmas	15.151	283	54	15.151	268.947	-	1
9	Neue Geschichten vom Pumuckl	14.146	331	43	344.374	2.440.426	+37	7
10	Trolls 3	11.953	415	29	741.361	6.337.442	-15	8
11	The Marvels	11.303	238	47	434.144	4.764.646	-47	5
12	Godzilla Minus One	10.724	191	56	32.785	343.031	-39	2

A so-so weekend thanks to the good opening for Wonka; Wish increased from last WE, also a good sign - should play well through the holidays. But only 12 releases >10k admissions, that's awful and indicative of the poor state of Germany's BO. The Marvels will probably drop out of my chart next WE, with a total of >500k - crazy how fast the MCU is fading.

In Austria, less awful numbers - a similar chart but everything 15-30% higher, plus last week's domestic opener Wie kommen wir da wieder raus managed an increase - nice!

Next weekend: The biggest opener should be Silent Night; also two semi-wide domestic openings, kiddie SciFi Wow! Nachricht aus dem All and comedy 791km. So, no hits - Wonka should stay in front, but depending on WOM the race for #1 might be closer than last weekend.

[Issac Newton]

Wonka (Austria) - €417.542