IndustriousAngel Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 It seems "Willkommen bei den Hartmanns" is having a strong Wednesday in Germany ... still not possible to say anything about the weekend though since Wed doesn't count. In Austria, it's probably a lot weaker - in my theater, there's 6 (six) seats booked for tomorrow (no Wed start so tomorrow is opening day) - as a comparison, there are about 80 seats sold for tomorrow's Doctor Strange shows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) These are the Thursday estimates (via insidekino.de/forum). New releases: Willkommen bei den Hartmanns: 52k (starts in 585 theaters, quite good reviews) Petterson und Findus 2: Das schönste Weihnachten überhaupt: sadly no report (409, pretty good reviews) Tini: Violettas Zukunft: sadly no report (ca. 300, mixed reviews) Holdovers: Doctor Strange: 30.5k (last Thursday 55k) Bridget Jones's Baby: 34k (35k) Inferno: 17k (25k) Dory: 5.5k evening only! (20k whole day) So „Willkommen bei den Hartmanns“ could easily be the new #1 this weekend. The holds look good but in many states we have autumn holiday which of course helps. Edited November 3, 2016 by el sid 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted November 4, 2016 Author Share Posted November 4, 2016 Friday trend for Germany from insidekino.de: #1/2: Willkommen bei den Hartmanns / Doctor Strange with 350k each (super numbers for both; that would be a 5% drop for Strange ) #3: Bridget - 150k (-25%, great hold once more) 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moviesRus Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Is it still holiday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 39 minutes ago, moviesRus said: Is it still holiday? Only in the South, Bayern and Baden-Württemberg (big states). Some of the Thursday actuals: Willkommen bei den Hartmanns: 55k Doctor Strange: 45k - that 30k number was indeed suspicious Inferno: 15k Tini: 21k Petterson und Findus 2: 7k 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 That would be at last a good hold for Dory 135k (-17%) With this hold Dory will cross 3,5M admissions Inferno 125k (-35%) Trolls 125k (-12%) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 5 hours ago, moviesRus said: Is it still holiday? As el Sid already stated, in 2 (mostly Catholic) states. They have over 25% of the complete population (on place 2 and 3 out of 16 states - population numbers wise) Not sure how that plays into the weekend numbers, should have be good for the weekdays numbers (I didn't check yet). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efialtes76 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 On 4/11/2016 at 7:35 AM, IndustriousAngel said: Friday trend for Germany from insidekino.de: #1/2: Willkommen bei den Hartmanns / Doctor Strange with 350k each (super numbers for both; that would be a 5% drop for Strange ) #3: Bridget - 150k (-25%, great hold once more) Saturday Trend: #1-Willkommen bei de Hartmanns-450K #2-Doctor Strange-325K #3-Bridget Jones-150K #4/5/6/7-Dory,Tini&Violeta,Inferno and Trolls-125K #8-Girl on the Train-100K #The Accountant-40K 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted November 5, 2016 Author Share Posted November 5, 2016 very good numbers! (WbdH number includes 50k from Wed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Hartmann's seems to have great WOM! 450k is great! 2M we're coming Strange (-11%) Dory (-23%) still good and probably still enough to hit 3,5M 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 11 hours ago, Aristis said: Hartmann's seems to have great WOM! 450k is great! 2M we're coming Strange (-11%) Dory (-23%) still good and probably still enough to hit 3,5M The fact that WbdH is picking up speed as it rolls along is a very good sign, 2mil are really the lower end of expectations now. Will be Verhoefen's greatest success so far and even 3mil - his first blockbuster - seem possible with such favourable WOM. Dory is already a success but the fact that, week after week, it's always dropping a bit harder than other stuff (even family) seems to indicate that WOM is not as good as it should be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 3. Trend: Willkommen bei den Hartmanns (485T), Doctor Strange (290T), Trolls (150T), Bridget Jones's Baby (140T), Findet Dorie (135T), Inferno (125T), Tini - Violettas Zukunft (110T), Girl on the Train (100T), Pettersson & Findus - Das schönste Weihnachten überhaupt (75T), Burg Schreckenstein (45T), Störche - Abenteuer im Anflug (45T), The Accountant (40T), Die Insel der besonderen Kinder (35T), Bad Moms (35T), Ouija - Ursprung des Bösen (30T), Last trend had it at 325..... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 1 minute ago, terrestrial said: 3. Trend: Willkommen bei den Hartmanns (485T), Doctor Strange (290T), Trolls (150T), Bridget Jones's Baby (140T), Findet Dorie (135T), Inferno (125T), Tini - Violettas Zukunft (110T), Girl on the Train (100T), Pettersson & Findus - Das schönste Weihnachten überhaupt (75T), Burg Schreckenstein (45T), Störche - Abenteuer im Anflug (45T), The Accountant (40T), Die Insel der besonderen Kinder (35T), Bad Moms (35T), Ouija - Ursprung des Bösen (30T), Last trend had it at 325..... That's still very good for Strange, about a 20% drop against a good opener - not bad! Trolls is actually increasing if those numbers hold! Dory - a 15% drop, very nice but when Trolls even increases - not optimal. Bridget drops 30%, it got hit hardest by the Hartmanns. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 9 minutes ago, IndustriousAngel said: That's still very good for Strange, about a 20% drop against a good opener - not bad! Trolls is actually increasing if those numbers hold! Dory - a 15% drop, very nice but when Trolls even increases - not optimal. Bridget drops 30%, it got hit hardest by the Hartmanns. Agree, only pointed it out,as it seems to be a hot theme. Someone at the weekend thread (I thonk) wrote e.g. that DS fell in Spain to #4... but gave no explanation like e.g. local movies. Like here in Germany a local movie gained #1. Latest since GotG run in SK against one of the (or THE) biggest lokal Korean movie I am looking strongly on that. A minus 20% is even greater IMHO based on it's running against a 485T local movie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efialtes76 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) Wilkommen bei den Hartmans-467,5K/505K Doctor Strange-290K/870K Trolls-150K/645K Bridget Jones-135K/905K Dory-132,5K/3550K Inferno-120K/1315K Tini&Violeta-112,5K Girl on the Train-95K/300K The Accountant-40K/255K Edited November 7, 2016 by efialtes76 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketheavenger Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 5 hours ago, efialtes76 said: Wilkommen bei den Hartmans-467,5K/505K Doctor Strange-290K/870K Trolls-150K/645K Bridget Jones-135K/905K Dory-132,5K/3250K Inferno-120K/1315K Tini&Violeta-112,5K Girl on the Train-95K/300K The Accountant-40K/255K Shouldn't Dory's total be higher? It was already over 3,3m last week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efialtes76 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) 31 minutes ago, miketheavenger said: Shouldn't Dory's total be higher? It was already over 3,3m last week. You're right.3550K Edited November 7, 2016 by efialtes76 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted November 8, 2016 Author Share Posted November 8, 2016 Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Willkommen bei den Hartmanns 468.940 586 800 506.431 4.270.985 - 1 2 Doctor Strange 289.154 574 504 867.107 9.652.701 -21 2 3 Trolls 149.252 668 223 645.698 4.794.493 +5 3 4 Bridget Jones's Baby 135.816 670 203 910.486 7.822.893 -32 3 5 Finding Dory 133.569 694 192 3.549.916 29.860.692 -17 6 6 Inferno 118.394 642 184 1.313.325 11.539.208 -38 4 7 Tini - Violettas Zukunft 113.218 361 314 113.218 782.667 - 1 8 The Girl on the Train 95.717 438 219 297.566 2.578.621 -21 2 9 Pettersson & Findus - Das schönste Weihnachten überhaupt 72.514 410 177 79.912 514.629 - 1 10 Burg Schreckenstein 47.839 521 92 237.013 1.498.700 +7 3 11 Storks 43.713 435 100 134.750 976.843 -20 2 12 The Accountant 38.339 345 111 254.504 2.229.430 -32 3 13 Miss Peregrine's Home For Peculiar Children 36.058 313 115 795.030 7.860.178 -38 5 14 Bad Moms 31.336 288 109 1.243.071 10.175.513 -31 7 15 Ouija: Origin of Evil 30.860 277 111 181.242 1.570.675 -29 3 16 Sausage Party 15.225 238 64 414.724 3.358.404 -36 5 17 The Secret Life of Pets 13.088 203 64 3.787.458 30.966.090 +7 15 18 Tschick 12.743 160 80 618.305 4.467.802 -39 8 19 La Danseuse 9.819 70 140 12.066 93.697 - 1 20 Snowden 9.230 149 62 393.366 3.465.961 -25 7 Surprisingly good opening for Willkommen bei den Hartmanns; with excellent WOM as witnessed by the increasing estimates the comedy might be able to make it to the 3mil total mark! Doctor Strange had an ok hold, a success on the German market (difficult for superheroes). Finding Dory crossed 3,5mil total this weekend - a success, sure, but once more, it dropped 17% when three other family releases had an increase. WOM is definitely not what it ought to be. Next weekend: Jack Reacher 2 and Café Society and a lot of domestic stuff - 200k opening weekend for Cruise seem like a good estimate but hopefully it can get a little higher; Woody's latest releases were tough sells, I'd consider everything north of a 50k weekend a success. As an aside: October numbers for Austria are in, and after a disastrous 3rd quarter, the 4th one starts with a bang, Dory and Bad Moms lead a strong roster to one of the best Octobers of the last 30 years. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 (edited) These are the Thursday estimates (via insidekino.de/forum): New releases: Jack Reacher 2: 17.5k (starts in 507 theaters, mixed reviews) Before I Wake: 1.5k (191, mixed reviews) Cafe Society: 3k (135, good reviews) Holdovers: Willkommen bei den Hartmanns: 39.5k (55k) - as projected it will have a very good hold Doctor Strange: 19k (45k) – maybe again underestimated Bridget Jones's Baby: 18.5k (30.5k) Girl on the Train: 7.5 Inferno: 8k (15k) Dory: 1k (5.5k evening only) - no holiday, so not surprising So we have mostly good holds given the fact that last week two big states still had autumn holiday. Jack Reacher 2 could reach 200k or maybe come in a bit lower if the number is correct. Friday edit: I have to admit that the Thursday estimates are not the most accurate ones in the last weeks. Maybe they are taken too early and that's the reason why the films that find their audience also or more in the evening are chronically underestimated: Doctor Strange: 25k instead of 19k Jack Reacher 2: also 25k instead of 17.5k Edited November 11, 2016 by el sid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted November 11, 2016 Author Share Posted November 11, 2016 First weekend trends from insidekino.de: #1: WbdH - 425k (-10%, 3mil here we come!) #2: Strange - 225k (-20%) #3: JackReacher - 190k (that's very close to what I said was a success so let's say it is ) 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...