Aristis Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) 3rd Trend: Split is up to 255k now! -6% excluding Previews La La Land down to 160k (Still up 2%) Rings 100k Moana 90k (Too -6%) Edited February 5, 2017 by Aristis 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 What a nice weekend, Split is a real surprise, family stuff with great holds ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 The Whisper Numbers: Split 245/620 La La Land 160/825 Wendy 125/340 Blind Date 117.5/315 Rings over 100k Sing 95/1845 xXx 80/515 Timm Thaler 75/85 RE6 72.5/220 Plötzlich Papa 70/770 Hidden Figures 60/80 Passengers 57.5/1155 Kundschafter 52.5/135 Sing 50/2310 Monster Trucks 47.5/115 (stayed almost flat) A Streetcat Named Bob 40/240 Rogue One 27.5/3910 Manchester 27.5/130 Why Him? 25/400 The Great Wall 22.5/440 Live by Night 20/22.5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nVIDIADriver Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, el sid said: The Whisper Numbers: Split 245/620 La La Land 160/825 Wendy 125/340 Blind Date 117.5/315 Rings over 100k Sing 95/1845 xXx 80/515 Timm Thaler 75/85 RE6 72.5/220 Plötzlich Papa 70/770 Hidden Figures 60/80 Passengers 57.5/1155 Kundschafter 52.5/135 Sing 50/2310 Monster Trucks 47.5/115 (stayed almost flat) A Streetcat Named Bob 40/240 Rogue One 27.5/3910 Manchester 27.5/130 Why Him? 25/400 The Great Wall 22.5/440 Live by Night 20/22.5 For last weekend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 44 minutes ago, nVIDIADriver said: For last weekend? Yes. The first numbers are the weekend numbers and the second ones are the total admission numbers incl. Sunday. Or, for the new releases, the admissions counted with previews. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 a lot of releases with decent business atm but not a single sell-outer; well that will change very soon In Austria, Rings led the chart; the surprise here is Why Him? that dropped <20%; LaLaLand is also doing excellent and prolongued business here. Austria is always a bit more frontloaded than Germany - bigger openings but steeper drops as a rule. So, Why Him? counting 15k admissions in its 4th weekend, after 40k OW, is really strong. Of course, 50SoG will hit equally hard here and occupy most good screens at least OW. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Split 246.167 494 498 621.907 5.358.327 -8 2 2 La La Land 160.143 466 344 830.864 7.275.866 +3 4 3 Wendy 126.593 605 209 343.334 2.240.381 -11 2 4 Mein Blind Date mit dem Leben 117.172 360 325 327.569 2.664.634 -1 2 5 Rings 101.269 304 333 101.269 913.746 - 1 6 Moana 95.434 679 141 1.830.042 14.129.581 -1 7 7 xXx 3 81.186 570 142 518.511 5.708.138 -34 3 8 Timm Thaler oder Das verkaufte Lachen 75.729 557 136 87.788 587.739 - 1 9 Resident Evil 6 73.607 450 164 220.357 2.474.355 -35 2 10 Demain tout commence 70.532 479 147 782.116 6.432.730 -22 5 11 Hidden Figures 59.216 132 449 96.293 668.220 - 1 12 Passengers 56.061 424 132 1.151.283 11.762.207 -33 5 13 Kundschafter des Friedens 51.454 174 296 159.663 1.251.978 -9 2 14 Sing 49.025 481 102 2.309.011 18.246.149 -7 9 15 Monster Trucks 46.907 288 163 112.747 869.107 -8 2 16 A Streetcat Named Bob 38.584 422 91 237.644 1.859.695 -0 4 17 Ballerina 32.260 400 81 198.534 1.350.647 -6 4 18 Manchester by the Sea 28.268 112 252 128.460 1.083.689 -9 3 19 Rogue One 27.752 246 113 3.909.887 43.947.846 -34 8 20 Feuerwehrmann Sam - Außerirdische 26.846 490 55 228.668 1.425.279 -25 5 With no big openers, the market was very friendly for holdovers - La La Land with its 3rd increase in as many weeks, and Split is a surprise success, too. Moana will cross 2mil total, very good after the weak start. Look at those PTA's, many of the releases seem to be very well received! Next weekend: 50 Shades Darker will top the weekend by a wide margin. The first one counted 1,35 mil admissions OW and seemed to satisfy so we might even see a bit more this time, theaters sure are trying to milk that cow for what it's worth. As contrast program, The Lego Batman Movie is perfectly placed, it takes many afternoon and early evening shows - The Lego Movie was not that big an opener but was extremely well received and Batman is of course a draw, so we should see >500k admissions. We have quite a few bookings for it, too, a sure sign that it is able to transcend the families-only barrier. The Space Between Us and other small releases won't make much of a splash amongs such competition … Holdovers are bound to suffer because of screen anaemia but I can definitely see something like LaLaLand or comedies have comparatively nice drops, again. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingdong123 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Moana has held really well. Amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 btw, Austria's January numbers are in and it's been the worst in recent history - the top 3 releases were Why Him?, Demain tout commence and Passengers. Not too disturbing since it was a very short Jan (5th-29th) and the big 2017 releases are just starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) And with the official FFA-Numbers we know that 2016 was at least above 120M admissions... 121,1M (-13% against last year), €1.023M (-12,4%). I feared that worse could happen... But it's a pretty bad number. 2017 can only get better... Edited February 8, 2017 by Aristis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giesi Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 5 hours ago, Aristis said: And with the official FFA-Numbers we know that 2016 was at least above 120M admissions... 121,1M (-13% against last year), €1.023M (-12,4%). I feared that worse could happen... But it's a pretty bad number. 2017 can only get better... And the unfortunate part in all this is that the film industry can celebrate the 4th best year ever - in terms of revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 6 hours ago, Giesi said: And the unfortunate part in all this is that the film industry can celebrate the 4th best year ever - in terms of revenue. Only if you don't consider inflation, so it's a pretty pointless point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 The Thursday estimates (source insidekino.de/forum): New Releases: Fifty Shades Darker: 159k (starts in 710 theaters, pretty bad reviews between 2 and 6/10 - a little bit worse than part 1, had 1.35M admissions on its first weekend two years ago) The LEGO Batman Movie: 6k evening only! (535, ok to very good reviews, often in very small cinema halls in the evening, The Lego Movie had 1.3M total admissions three years ago) The Space Between Us: under 1k (168, ok reviews) The Girl with All the Gifts: ?k (ca. 90, very good reviews) Madame Christine und ihre unerwarteten Gäste: ?k (ca. 80, mixed reviews) Der Eid: ?k (ca. 50, good reviews) Holdovers: Split: 16k (30k) La La Land: 15k (22k) Mein Blind Date mit dem Leben: 8.5k (12.5k) Hidden Figures: 7.5k (7k) – a very good hold Resi Evil 6: 5.5k (9k) xXx3: 6k (8k) - not bad, maybe it works as an alternative program Rings: 4.5k (15k) So still some good holds but as IndustriousAngel said, many holdovers suffer because of the screen anaemia. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 50SoG2 number seems weak ... of course, this year we had a lot of previews and Ladie's evenings so a lot of demand was moved to Wed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 47 minutes ago, IndustriousAngel said: 50SoG2 number seems weak ... of course, this year we had a lot of previews and Ladie's evenings so a lot of demand was moved to Wed. Yes, I read it had showtimes in ca. 600 theaters on Wednesday so a Thursday-Thursday comparison wouldn't make any sense. But from the look at the reservations in several theaters, the demand seemed not to be overwhelming today. The mathäser reservations (ok, it's pretty male-dominated) were of course good but far from "we need an extra cinema hall". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 7 hours ago, el sid said: Yes, I read it had showtimes in ca. 600 theaters on Wednesday so a Thursday-Thursday comparison wouldn't make any sense. But from the look at the reservations in several theaters, the demand seemed not to be overwhelming today. The mathäser reservations (ok, it's pretty male-dominated) were of course good but far from "we need an extra cinema hall". same here ... maybe the craze was shortlived and is ebbing already. Still will make a shitload of money, with production costs as low, so we'll see some more of them I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) The 1st Trend is not that good in my eyes... FSOG 2 925k (MarkG says that 1M isn't impossible but that would, probably, require WOM, this movie does not have...) FSOG 1 1,35M Lego Batman 275k (about the same as The Lego Movie, I hoped for better...) Split 150k (-40%) La La Land 105k (-35%) Wendy 95k (-25%) Edited February 10, 2017 by Aristis 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 first estimates from insidekino.de: #1: 50SoG2 - 925k (incl. previews), a bit of a letdown #2: Lego Batman - 275k (was hoping for more, too) #3: Split - 150k (-40%) #4: LaLaLand - 105k (-35%) #5: Wendy - 95k (-25%) Overall a lot weaker than I was hoping 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Some Thursday actuals (source Blickpunkt:Film): New Releases: 50SD: 140k The LEGO Batman Movie: 25k whole day The Space Between Us: 2.5k Madame Christine: 2.7k Holdovers: Split: 18k La La Land: 15k – the first time the estimate was right Mein Blind Date mit dem Leben: 8k The LEGO Batman Movie number – 25k – is also almost equivalent with the The Lego Movie number two years ago. I didn't expect more just because it shows „only“ Batman. And maybe it has the same legs, the trailer is cute and the WOM (also from moviegoers so far, not only critics) is fine. By the way I read several reviews now where it said it is by far not only a kids movie, more the other way around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RthDeadWov Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 13 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said: first estimates from insidekino.de: #1: 50SoG2 - 925k (incl. previews), a bit of a letdown #2: Lego Batman - 275k (was hoping for more, too) #3: Split - 150k (-40%) #4: LaLaLand - 105k (-35%) #5: Wendy - 95k (-25%) Overall a lot weaker than I was hoping FSD lose out bigtime sat compared to FSOG, Wed prev- Fri looking to be about same as FSOG Th-Fri 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...