el sid Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) The first trend from insidekino.de: #1 Der Junge...300k #2 Glass 275k (Split had 271k/with previews 294k) - a little bit under the expectations but not bad #3 Second Act 125k #4 Immenhof 125k - both Second Act and Immenhof with previews #5 Aquaman 100k #6 BR 80k And some Thursday actuals (Blickpunkt:Film): The new releases: Glass (released in 563 theaters): 34k/347k US$ - so at least #1 of all films yesterday Second Act/Manhattan Queen (370): 10k Immenhof – Das Abenteuer eines Sommers (581) 5.5k Mary Queen of Scots (185): 4.4k → 45k OW in the first trend The Front Runner (103): ?k → only 2.5k OW The holdovers: Der Junge muss an die frische Luft: 28k (actuals last Thursday 34k) Aquaman: 9k (16k) Edited January 18, 2019 by el sid 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poseidon Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 On 1/12/2019 at 2:46 PM, Brainbug said: Dont think so. The Oscars arent really relevant here. BR is probably just enjoying really good WOM. That's one side. The other reason is a ridiculously bad schedule that literally has nothing to offer in what usually is a very busy time for german theaters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainbug Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Poseidon said: That's one side. The other reason is a ridiculously bad schedule that literally has nothing to offer in what usually is a very busy time for german theaters. Thats true. 2018's end of the year line-up was pretty weak all things considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 The second trend from insidekino.de: #1 Der Junge 280k #2 Glass 250k - it stays disappointing here #3 Immenhof 135k #4 Second Act 130k - ok #5 Aquaman 100k #6 BR 80k #7 Robin Hood 60k #8 100 Dinge 50k #9 Kalte Füße 50k #10 Mary Queen of Scots 45k #11 MPR 45k #12 Der kleine Drache Kokosnuss 35k #13 Polaroid 30k #14 The Wife 27.5k 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyamama Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 hour ago, el sid said: The second trend from insidekino.de: #1 Der Junge 280k #2 Glass 250k - it stays disappointing here #3 Immenhof 135k #4 Second Act 130k - ok #5 Aquaman 100k #6 BR 80k #7 Robin Hood 60k #8 100 Dinge 50k #9 Kalte Füße 50k #10 Mary Queen of Scots 45k #11 MPR 45k #12 Der kleine Drache Kokosnuss 35k #13 Polaroid 30k #14 The Wife 27.5k i'm sorry..this is admission or money???... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, boyamama said: i'm sorry..this is admission or money???... Admissions. There usually aren't any detailed reports about the money until actuals comes out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) latest estimates even lower for the leader, Glass stabilises, BR even a bit up Edited January 20, 2019 by IndustriousAngel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 The Monday update looks a little bit better for Glass: #1 Glass 255k #2 Der Junge...247.5k/2.2M #3 Immenhof 120k/155k #4 Aquaman 102.5k/1.755M #5 Second Act 90k/130k #6 BR 82.5k/2.820M #7 Robin Hood 57.5k/220k #8 Feuerwehrmann Sam 57.5/255k #9 100 Dinge 50k/1.350M #10 Kalte Füße 50k/155k #11 Mary Queen of Scots 45k/50k #12 MPR 42.5k/1.045M #13 Der kleine Drache Kokosnuss 30k/320k #14 Polaroid 30k/95k #15 The Wife 25k/125k #16 FB2 22.5k/3.850M #17 The Grinch 20k/2.260M 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruseth Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 6 hours ago, el sid said: The Monday update looks a little bit better for Glass: #1 Glass 255k #2 Der Junge...247.5k/2.2M #3 Immenhof 120k/155k #4 Aquaman 102.5k/1.755M #5 Second Act 90k/130k #6 BR 82.5k/2.820M #7 Robin Hood 57.5k/220k #8 Feuerwehrmann Sam 57.5/255k #9 100 Dinge 50k/1.350M #10 Kalte Füße 50k/155k #11 Mary Queen of Scots 45k/50k #12 MPR 42.5k/1.045M #13 Der kleine Drache Kokosnuss 30k/320k #14 Polaroid 30k/95k #15 The Wife 25k/125k #16 FB2 22.5k/3.850M #17 The Grinch 20k/2.260M FB2 basically fell of a cliff after the holidays... Still should reach close to 3.9M admission and €39.25M≈$44.6M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Glass 256.309 564 454 256.309 2.431.176 - 1 2 Der Junge muss an die frische Luft 249.721 853 293 2.202.045 18.768.585 -27 4 3 Immenhof - Das Abenteuer eines Sommers 120.333 581 207 154.698 1.085.080 - 1 4 Aquaman 103.401 505 205 1.756.698 19.501.026 -39 5 5 Second Act 90.439 370 244 129.146 1.069.220 - 1 6 Bohemian Rhapsody 82.727 594 139 2.820.971 26.125.096 -27 12 7 Feuerwehrmann Sam - Plötzlich Filmheld! 57.693 614 94 256.771 1.628.547 -30 3 8 Robin Hood 57.395 434 132 218.112 1.793.947 -48 2 9 100 Dinge 50.039 489 102 1.352.410 11.504.476 -41 7 10 Kalte Füße 49.305 382 129 154.905 1.281.812 -43 2 11 Mary Queen Of Scots 44.001 185 238 49.973 456.593 - 1 12 Mary Poppins Returns 42.813 557 77 1.047.164 8.648.247 -49 5 13 Der kleine Drache Kokosnuss - Ab in den Dschungel 29.521 555 53 317.716 2.107.965 -37 4 14 Polaroid 29.442 212 139 92.363 808.658 -42 2 15 The Wife 26.407 158 167 124.938 1.017.210 -27 3 16 Fantastic Beasts 2 23.574 293 80 3.827.620 38.506.044 -51 10 17 The Grinch 21.045 432 49 2.259.349 17.626.795 -58 8 18 Bumblebee 18.279 388 47 669.358 6.599.375 -59 5 19 Yuli 15.957 72 222 20.309 161.695 - 1 20 Tabaluga 15.179 446 34 476.985 3.192.112 -38 7 Three new releases in the Top5 but overall the weekend was a bit disappointing; with such a variety of releases overall attendance should have been higher … Glass definitely on the lower end of expectations but still an ok number. Immenhof on the other side went higher than expected, never underestimate girls and horses! Next weekend: Some more interesting releases, among them Creed 2 and Ralph Breaks the Internet. The first Creed opened high but dropped steep, not a good sign - 100k OW would be ok I guesss. WiR was not that big too, 1mil total was underwhelming for a Disney CGI; maybe this year Ralph can do better, at least it should win the weekend! 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Only 100k OW for Creed II would be absolutely disappointing. The first movie opened (also only) to 142k (150k with previews) and had 341k total admissions, so factor 2.28. Creed II will again be frontloaded I guess. But this time I hope for a Drago effect. I mean, every country saw an increase OW (often it doubled the result of the first one) why should Germany be the exception? Ok, it's Germany but a decrease? Since one or two years almost all films have meager reservation numbers in the theaters I used to look at, so if a fan-driven film has decent reservation and sold ticket numbers, it doesn't automatically mean that it will have a great OW. Still, so far it looks good for Creed II in 'my' theaters (mathäser, Cinecitta, cinemaxx), much better than the sales and reservations for Ralph II (but e.g. mathäser is a twen and male dominated theater so a film like Creed II has to work here. Creed II already got a middle big instead of a small cinema hall on Thursday - „small“ means 200+ seats - and they added another show on Saturday). In the mathäser Creed had reservations for Thursday at the same time: 162, Creed II has 451, in the Cinecitta it were 142 in 2016, this time it's 349 (and thanks to our diligent theater reporters I could look up all these numbers ). I'm not sure how it looks for Ralph II. According to earlier theater reports at insidekino.de/forum it also had good presales but I can't assess what a family film would need. But this weekend could indeed become a bit interesting. Ralph II will be released in 599 theaters (first one had 512) and Creed II in 350 theaters (the first one had 326 first week and 372 at a max). Instant Family was also scheduled but now it says 31.1., probably too much competition. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 As an exception, some Thursday estimates (because in 2016, the Creed estimates were not far off): Back then, Creed was good for 18k admissions in the estimates and 22k was the actual Thursday number. Today the member of insidekino.de counted 30k admissions. Let's hope that this halfway holds which would be fine . Ralph II had - evening only - almost 10k estimated admissions. I have no idea if this is good, bad, mediocre. Glass (actual Thursday number last week was 34k admissions) held ok with almost 20k estimated admissions. The Favourite had 2.5k admissions and BR seeems to have another good hold with ca. 6k admissions (last Thursday 8k). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 that's a very good number for Creed2 ... Ralph2 still no idea, was not selling too good here but might have a strong weekend; still I'm afraid this might be too grown-upish for the kids and too animatish for the adults. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 First weekend estimates from insidekino.de: #1: Ralph2 - 375k (very good number considering the first one's OW) #2: Creed2 - 225k, excellent #3: Junge - 200k (-20% but was overestimated last Fri too) #4: Glass - 175k (-32%, hmm) No other release >100k admissions 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent K Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, IndustriousAngel said: First weekend estimates from insidekino.de: #1: Ralph2 - 375k (very good number considering the first one's OW) #2: Creed2 - 225k, excellent #3: Junge - 200k (-20% but was overestimated last Fri too) #4: Glass - 175k (-32%, hmm) No other release >100k admissions Are you sure it's a good start for creed 2 ? No sarcasm. It's just that i don't know how German BO works. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 20 minutes ago, Laurent K said: Are you sure it's a good start for creed 2 ? No sarcasm. It's just that i don't know how German BO works. Thanks Much better than the first Creed. German BO is in a slump atm so really good number I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) Ralph II is also doing much better than I thought after its muted presales! And some Thursday actuals (source: Blickpunkt:Film): The new releases: Creed II (released in 350 theaters): 30k/312k US$ Ralph Breaks The Internet: 21k/193k US$ (released in 599 theaters, first movie had 180k admissions OW) The Favourite (102): 5k → 42.5k OW in the first trend A Dog's Way Home (201): 1.6k → 32.5k OW in the first trend Beautiful Boy (56): 1.1k The holdovers: Der Junge muss an die frische Luft: 23k (actuals last Thursday 28k) Glass: 20k (actuals last Thursday 34k) Aquaman: 6k (9k) Edited January 25, 2019 by el sid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruseth Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 9 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said: First weekend estimates from insidekino.de: #1: Ralph2 - 375k (very good number considering the first one's OW) #2: Creed2 - 225k, excellent #3: Junge - 200k (-20% but was overestimated last Fri too) #4: Glass - 175k (-32%, hmm) No other release >100k admissions With that hold shouldn't Junge be able to get to something around 3.3M... Would be around 2450k (probably a little less after that weekend) And then add like 4x the weekend (that would mean adding 800k for 3.25M... 7 hours ago, Laurent K said: Are you sure it's a good start for creed 2 ? No sarcasm. It's just that i don't know how German BO works. Thanks It is. Nothing extraordinary of course. If you take a look at the top movies last year (partly guesses for final number) FB2 3.9M (Now: 3.828M) IW: 3.4M Junge: 3.25M (2.2M) (maybe I am overestimating it and it will end closer to 3M) BR: 3.2M (2.82M) Fifty S. 3M HT3: 2.54M JW2: 2.4 Grinch: 2.3 (2.26) DP2: 2.24M I2: 2.19M MM2: 2.18M Aqm: 2M Jim Knopf: 1.81M BP: 1.8M Those are mainly Superhero (IW, DP2, I2, Aqm and BP (this is btw really good for Superheros) or Animation (HT3, Grinch, I2) or they are some kind of Drama (BR, Junge, MM2, Jim Knopf) and Harry Potter (Germans tend to embrace Fantasy) The only weird film is certainly FS... In other words there isn't much interest for a movie like Creed here. And in general Germany is about half dead right now, last year was one of the lowest ever, maybe even the lowest ever, with around 100M adm. in total. Germany's numbers appear much bigger in international threads because of really high ticket prices compared to most countries but Scandinavia, GB and Japan (and USA) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent K Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Taruseth said: With that hold shouldn't Junge be able to get to something around 3.3M... Would be around 2450k (probably a little less after that weekend) And then add like 4x the weekend (that would mean adding 800k for 3.25M... It is. Nothing extraordinary of course. If you take a look at the top movies last year (partly guesses for final number) FB2 3.9M (Now: 3.828M) IW: 3.4M Junge: 3.25M (2.2M) (maybe I am overestimating it and it will end closer to 3M) BR: 3.2M (2.82M) Fifty S. 3M HT3: 2.54M JW2: 2.4 Grinch: 2.3 (2.26) DP2: 2.24M I2: 2.19M MM2: 2.18M Aqm: 2M Jim Knopf: 1.81M BP: 1.8M Those are mainly Superhero (IW, DP2, I2, Aqm and BP (this is btw really good for Superheros) or Animation (HT3, Grinch, I2) or they are some kind of Drama (BR, Junge, MM2, Jim Knopf) and Harry Potter (Germans tend to embrace Fantasy) The only weird film is certainly FS... In other words there isn't much interest for a movie like Creed here. And in general Germany is about half dead right now, last year was one of the lowest ever, maybe even the lowest ever, with around 100M adm. in total. Germany's numbers appear much bigger in international threads because of really high ticket prices compared to most countries but Scandinavia, GB and Japan (and USA) I didn't know things were so bad in germany. Here in France, we had 200 M admissions last year. Thanks and let us know how Glass and Creed are doing in Germany, please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruseth Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 14 hours ago, Laurent K said: I didn't know things were so bad in germany. Here in France, we had 200 M admissions last year. Thanks and let us know how Glass and Creed are doing in Germany, please. They are so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...