IndustriousAngel Posted December 15, 2023 Author Share Posted December 15, 2023 Early weekend estimates for Germany from insidekino.de: #1: Wonka - 275k admissions (-6%) #2: Wish - 185k (-13%) #3: Napoleon - 85k (-24%) Contrary to my expectations, Wonka is holding better than Wish; good for both movies, but without big openers, once more a depressed weekend ... 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) The second trend from insidekino.de - mostly nice holds with Wonka still even a little bit above expectations but with disappointing newbies: #1 Wonka 275k #2 Wish 185k #3 Napoleon 85k #4 Hunger Games 85k #5 Saw X 50k #6 791km 32.5k ... Silent Night 20k Wow! 20k - way under the expectations, no idea why Edited December 16, 2023 by el sid 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) The final trend from insidekino.de - as often in recent weeks no pleasure to read: #1 Wonka 260k #2 Wish 175k #3 Napoleon 80k #4 Hunger Games 80k #5 Saw X 50k #6 791km 32.5k ... Silent Night 20k Wow! 17.5k Edited December 17, 2023 by el sid 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 22 hours ago, el sid said: The final trend from insidekino.de - as often in recent weeks no pleasure to read: That was a comparatively nice trend, look at the actuals, THOSE are painful to watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 3 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said: That was a comparatively nice trend, look at the actuals, THOSE are painful to watch Oh, you're right 😟 The Monday update from insidekino.de: #1 Wonka 245 (-16%)/647.5k total admissions #2 Wish 165k/810k #3 80k/1.192.5M #4 Napoleon 80k/767.5k #5 Saw X 50k/275k #6 (?) 791km 32.5k ... Silent Night 17.5k Wow! 15k 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 Germany's Top13 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Wonka 246.213 719 342 647.593 6.249.334 -16 2 2 Wish 165.787 656 253 811.271 7.047.195 -22 3 3 Hunger Games Prequel 81.435 550 148 1.192.870 13.351.463 -25 5 4 Napoleon 78.937 691 114 768.265 8.824.295 -30 4 5 Saw 10 50.154 442 113 275.643 2.877.427 -28 3 6 791km 25.706 325 79 35.830 323.798 - 1 7 Wow! Nachricht aus dem All 15.024 456 33 17.095 133.969 - 1 8 Anatomie d'une Chute 13.201 170 78 197.554 2.011.038 +90 7 9 Silent Night 12.573 221 57 18.451 166.771 - 1 10 Das Beste kommt noch! 11.104 346 32 44.600 433.474 -47 2 11 Neue Geschichten vom Pumuckl 10.489 253 41 356.410 2.486.019 -26 8 12 Godzilla Minus One 10.350 196 53 46.913 489.329 -3 3 13 Checker Tobi 2 10.346 425 24 1.030.671 7.632.264 -34 11 Wow, baaad weekend … some decent holds but everything on a very low level, not a single standout release. The best news is that Wonka is working better than I thought it would, should reach 2mil total with the holidays. In Austria, not much better - 10-20% percent up as usual plus one domestic release doing ok, but still bad. Next weekend: Finally some bigger openers: Migration as the family release, Aquaman 2 for the comic book crowd and Milli Vanilli biopic Girl You Know It's True - no blockbuster but at least three attractive releases which should work throughout the holidays. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Austria Wonka - €301K / €906K Wish - €202K / €1.09M Napoleon - €111K / €1.28M 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 On 12/18/2023 at 10:55 PM, el sid said: Oh, you're right 😟 The Monday update from insidekino.de: #1 Wonka 245 (-16%)/647.5k total admissions #2 Wish 165k/810k #3 80k/1.192.5M #4 Napoleon 80k/767.5k #5 Saw X 50k/275k #6 (?) 791km 32.5k ... Silent Night 17.5k Wow! 15k Why is Wonka keep going lower and lower in each update? This happened two weekend in a row. German doesn't like the movie? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 24 minutes ago, titanic2187 said: Why is Wonka keep going lower and lower in each update? This happened two weekend in a row. German doesn't like the movie? The admissions so far are ok IMO. Mark_G from insidekino.de hoped for 2M total admissions and that could happen. Many films looked worse and worse in these trends in recent weeks. From what I heard and saw, the Christmas markets are even more popular this year. And maybe also the weather was a factor. First we had too much snow to drive and park (e.g. to buy gifts or visit a Christmas market) and now many people catch up on it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 22, 2023 Author Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) early weekend estimates from insidekino.de for Germany: #1: Wonka - 225k admissions (-9%, that would be excellent given the date alignment) #2: Aquaman2 - 185k #3: Migration - 195k incl previews #4: Wish - 125k (-25%) All other releases <50k So, if true, Wonka keeps on with the good holds, Wish is dropping steeper than expected, Migration is doing so-so (obviously hurting Wish more than Wonka) and Aquaman2 is having a big decline from the first one - not as bad as Marvels but it will be hard to reach 1mil total; the first one counted exatly 2mil back in 2018. Of course, with 24th on Sunday, the follwing weekdays and weeks will be more important than this weekend. Edited December 22, 2023 by IndustriousAngel 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 The final trend from insidekino.de - some smaller changes: #1 Wonka 215k #2 Aquaman 2 190k #3 Migration 195k #4 Wish 115k #5 Hunger Games 45k #6 Napoleon 40k #7 Girl You Know It's True 47.5k 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 25, 2023 Author Share Posted December 25, 2023 Thanks to the holiday alignment, actuals will be coming very late, but it seems the latest estimates were pretty accurate - 3 movies in the 200k range is not too bad, next weekend should see spectacular increases, with some releases maybe even doubling this weekend's numbers (that happened back in 2017 when we hat 24th on a Sun, too). Austria seems to have had a much better weekend - Aquaman on the same level as Germany but the three wide family releases all doing better - maybe thanks to rainy weather in most regions. Wonka was nearly on the level of its OW; next weekend might count >40k admissions with a chance at 50k. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 On 12/24/2023 at 10:05 PM, el sid said: The final trend from insidekino.de - some smaller changes: #1 Wonka 215k #2 Aquaman 2 190k #3 Migration 195k #4 Wish 115k #5 Hunger Games 45k #6 Napoleon 40k #7 Girl You Know It's True 47.5k Wonka drops again from initial update.....I guess 2.5m is where the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 18 hours ago, titanic2187 said: Wonka drops again from initial update.....I guess 2.5m is where the final. Mark_G from insidekino.de is a bit more pessimistic. He predicted 185k admissions OW (without (Monday) for Wonka and 2M total admissions. Wonka's weekend number is a bit better (210k) but 2.5M total admissions seem tough to reach now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 The fourth weekend trend from insidekino.de: #1 Wonka 210k #2 Aquaman 2 195k #3 Migration 195k #4 Wish 117.5k #5 Hunger Games 45k #6 Napoleon 40k #7 Girl You Know It's True 47.5k 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 26, 2023 Author Share Posted December 26, 2023 2 hours ago, el sid said: Mark_G from insidekino.de is a bit more pessimistic. He predicted 185k admissions OW (without (Monday) for Wonka and 2M total admissions. Wonka's weekend number is a bit better (210k) but 2.5M total admissions seem tough to reach now. yep, 2,5mil seem very hard to reach but I wouldn't count it out yet - it's been having fine holds since the opening, so WOM seems ok. This week we'll see strong weekdays and hopefully a nice increase over the weekend, should come in with at least 300k, and holidays will continue until the weekend after where it should make at least 200k again. Don't underestimate those holiday legs! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 28, 2023 Author Share Posted December 28, 2023 Germany's Top12 xmas weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Wonka 210.968 749 282 958.673 8.991.608 -14 3 2 Aquaman 2 173.570 587 296 196.650 2.339.911 - 1 3 Migration 146.287 635 230 197.387 1.818.871 - 1 4 Wish 117.874 643 183 982.551 8.434.707 -29 4 5 Hunger Games Prequel 46.166 434 106 1.274.088 14.205.644 -43 6 6 Napoleon 41.201 566 73 851.408 9.677.557 -48 5 7 Girl You Know It's True 32.185 478 67 48.347 477.501 - 1 8 Saw 10 23.884 340 70 314.540 3.276.650 -52 4 9 Perfect Days 19.859 111 179 19.859 190.611 - 1 10 Dunki 17.528 87 201 17.528 275.764 - 1 11 791km 10.990 340 32 58.238 533.404 -57 2 12 Neue Geschichten vom Pumuckl 8.770 219 40 368.976 2.564.163 -16 9 Not a good weekend - with 24th on a Sunday, that was a given, but we're missing something with blockbuster potential. Wonka continues with the good holds, should top 2mil total. Aquaman 2 dropped a lot from the first one but is not flopping as hard as Marvels; in fact it might go up next weekend. Migration stayed below my expectations, but family releases should have very strong weekdays and following weekends - no flop, either. In Austria, Wonka led the field with >30k admissions; Migration and Wish came in on #2 and 3, and Aquaman 2 was only #4 despite opening a little better than in Germany - so, we did have a much stronger weekend! Next weekend: No wide openers, holdovers should see minimal drops or hopefully increases - in the case of family releases, even doubling last weekend's numbers is possible! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 29, 2023 Author Share Posted December 29, 2023 Early weekend estimates from insidekino.de for Germany's New Year's weekend: #1: Migration - 285k admissions (+95%) #2: Wonka - 275k (+30%) #3: Aquaman 2 - 240k (+38%) #4: Wish - 190k (+61%) #5: HG Prequel - 75k (+62%, unexpected increase) Wonka with the smallest increase, maybe it's already exhausted its potential in the prior weeks - so, no 2,5mil for sure. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 30, 2023 Author Share Posted December 30, 2023 updated estimates; everything higher, Wonka now at 300k which would put it back on its track for 2,5mil total: #1: Migration - 310k (+112%) #2: Wonka - 300k (+42%) #3: Aquaman2 - 250k (+44%) #4: Wish - 210k (+78%) 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 The third trend from insidekino.de: #1 Migration 300k #2 Wonka 290k #3 Aquaman 2 255k #4 Wish 200k #5 Hunger Games 82.5k #6 Napoleon 72.5k #7 Girl You Know It's True 70k #8 Perfect Days 37.5k #9 Saw X 32.5k ... The Queen Mary 15k Wer bist du, Mama Muh? 12.5k Happy New Year to all the people who write and read here . 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...