Carlangonz Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 7 hours ago, Mau said: How are presales now? Do you think it can make 200M opening weekend in mexico? Still very low but usually animations don't do big on that front. They either do meh or are CBM-level beasts like Minions, Incredibles 2 and the two latest Toy Story. Won't rule out $200M yet. I don't like to categorize it as a genre per se but with the exception of Beauty and the Beast and the two last Star Wars, female-lead movies are heavily back-loaded so this could easily pull a Captain Marvel/Wonder Woman and explode on walk-ups. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mau Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 48 minutes ago, Carlangonz said: Still very low but usually animations don't do big on that front. They either do meh or are CBM-level beasts like Minions, Incredibles 2 and the two latest Toy Story. Won't rule out $200M yet. I don't like to categorize it as a genre per se but with the exception of Beauty and the Beast and the two last Star Wars, female-lead movies are heavily back-loaded so this could easily pull a Captain Marvel/Wonder Woman and explode on walk-ups. Thank you fir answering me, Just two more questions: were despicable me 2 huge in presales? and do you think the lack of competition and Holidays could improve its legs? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlangonz Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 55 minutes ago, Mau said: Thank you fir answering me, Just two more questions: were despicable me 2 huge in presales? and do you think the lack of competition and Holidays could improve its legs? 1. Only Minions. Don't recall DM2 but that had a lot of buzz among 4-Quad. DM3 was more walk-up heavy but awareness wasn't nearly as well spread as DM2, it played better with families. Incredibles 2 played well with families and huge among older audiences. Toy Story has always been a massive 4-Quadrant player, probably the biggest ever. Demos are always interesting as Mexico just like Japan sees animation as another efficient way to express any kind of story on cinema rather than a "kids/family genre" as it's seen in US/Europe. 2. Definitely. Although holidays start until December 20th here the lack of competition besides Jumanji is going to benefit it big time. Plus WDAS titles are always leggy in here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Minion Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 Top 10 movies 2019 lc 01 1,474,000,000 Infinity War: Endgame 02 1,375,000,000 Toy Story 4 03 993,200,000 The Lion King (2019) 04 849,300,000 Joker 05 642,000,000 Captain Marvel 06 625,900.000 Aladdin (2019) 07 610,300,000 Spider-Man: Far From Home 08 469,100,000 Maleficent: Mistress of Evil 09 424,900,000 It Chapter 2 10 414,000,000 Dumbo (2019) Who'll join them? Frozen 2, Jumanji 2, Star Wars 9? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) Seems like Frozen yes, TROS maybe, Jumanji no. They need to rerelease TLK for 6.8M at some point. Edited November 22, 2019 by Thanos Legion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Minion Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) Frozen 2 is getting a lot of screens on Saturday, most of them (not surprisingly) from Placa de acero. Maleficent 2 is hanging there, may benefit from spillover. Edited November 23, 2019 by Purple Minion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlangonz Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 $40.7M opening for Frozen II. Pointing towards $160M+ opening weekend. Best start for WDAS. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mau Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 How is WOM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlangonz Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 34 minutes ago, Mau said: How is WOM? No reliable metrics for wom. We'll just have to wait and see how it behaves through the first week. Despite turning into the best opening ever for WDAS is still the 9th for animation overall. 10th if we count Lion King. Still a long stretch for WDAS to conquer the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Minion Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) Deadline reports that F2's OD is "an incredible 152% ahead of the original film". It has a good chance to pass 500M lc ($26M) and sneak into the all Top 10 Animated Movies list in lc: 01 02 1,375,000,000 Toy Story 4 (2019) 02 04 1,132,000,000 Coco (2017) 03 10 777,482,842 Toy Story 3 (2010) 04 11 749,600,000 The Incredibles 2 (2018) 05 13 724,796,427 Minions (2015) 06 19 625,965,616 Despicable Me 3 (2017) 07 21 618,218,437 Ice Age: Continental Drift (2012) 08 22 612,207,511 Despicable Me 2 (2013) 09 31 539,541,637 Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs (2009) 10 34 504,000,000 Hotel Transylvania 3 (2018) Edited November 23, 2019 by Purple Minion 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny Max Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Purple Minion said: Deadline reports that F2's OD is "an incredible 152% ahead of the original film". It has a good chance to pass 500M lc ($26M) and sneak into the all Top 10 Animated Movies list in lc: 01 02 1,375,000,000 Toy Story 4 (2019) 02 04 1,132,000,000 Coco (2017) 03 10 777,482,842 Toy Story 3 (2010) 04 11 749,600,000 The Incredibles 2 (2018) 05 13 724,796,427 Minions (2015) 06 19 625,965,616 Despicable Me 3 (2017) 07 21 618,218,437 Ice Age: Continental Drift (2012) 08 22 612,207,511 Despicable Me 2 (2013) 09 31 539,541,637 Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs (2009) 10 34 504,000,000 Hotel Transylvania 3 (2018) Any chance to enter in top 5 of all time .. ?? seems like Frozen brand is not much popular in latin region 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Minion Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 53 minutes ago, Sunny Max said: Any chance to enter in top 5 of all time .. ?? seems like Frozen brand is not much popular in latin region Very unlikely. WDAS hasn't clicked yet with the Latin American audience. @Carlangonz summarised the panorama in Mexico: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mau Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Purple Minion said: Deadline reports that F2's OD is "an incredible 152% ahead of the original film". It has a good chance to pass 500M lc ($26M) and sneak into the all Top 10 Animated Movies list in lc: 01 02 1,375,000,000 Toy Story 4 (2019) 02 04 1,132,000,000 Coco (2017) 03 10 777,482,842 Toy Story 3 (2010) 04 11 749,600,000 The Incredibles 2 (2018) 05 13 724,796,427 Minions (2015) 06 19 625,965,616 Despicable Me 3 (2017) 07 21 618,218,437 Ice Age: Continental Drift (2012) 08 22 612,207,511 Despicable Me 2 (2013) 09 31 539,541,637 Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs (2009) 10 34 504,000,000 Hotel Transylvania 3 (2018) What are the top 5 for WDAS? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Minion Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 Just now, Mau said: What are the top 5 for WDAS? In lc, Ralph Breaks The Internet is #1, Zootopia #2, Frozen is in the Top 5. Not sure about the other 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlangonz Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Purple Minion said: In lc, Ralph Breaks The Internet is #1, Zootopia #2, Frozen is in the Top 5. Not sure about the other 2. Moana is another one. Not sure if the 5th spot is first Ralph or Big Hero 6. I'll check the actual numbers but Ralph 2, Frozen and Zootopia are all over $300M, Moana over $200M and first Ralph and Big Hero 6 over $150M. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Minion Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 $9.3M OW for Frozen 2, better than expected, solid Sat/Sun; about 180M lc. $43.6M total for Joker, crossed 850M lc and that'd be it. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKMLover Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Purple Minion said: $9.3M OW for Frozen 2, better than expected, solid Sat/Sun; about 180M lc. $43.6M total for Joker, crossed 850M lc and that'd be it. What can be the legs for Frozen 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlangonz Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Purple Minion said: $9.3M OW for Frozen 2, better than expected, solid Sat/Sun; about 180M lc. Internal multi is usually a good sign of legs. WDAS now is having not only its first $400M grosser but very likely its first $500M+ too. Should finish on par with first Frozen in USD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mau Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Will frozen enter top 10 in mexico this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Minion Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mau said: Will frozen enter top 10 in mexico this year? Oh yes. And the Top 40 all-time. Ford vs Ferrari had a stellar second weekend, 28% drop for a $3.1M total. Edited November 24, 2019 by Purple Minion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...