A Marvel Fanboy Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 For those who care, need to read this, from Robert Cain for China Film Biz: On the Money Trail: Are Chinese Distributors Paying Producers What They Owe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I think the American studios are like drug lords wanting the Chinese to become addicted to their product. Later they will demand a higher share for their work. I hope they will settle it peacefuly as they are dependent on each other. American consumers can get their dose of cheap electronics, plastic toys or whatever elsewhere, if needed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 I think the American studios are like drug lords wanting the Chinese to become addicted to their product. Later they will demand a higher share for their work. I hope they will settle it peacefuly as they are dependent on each other. American consumers can get their dose of cheap electronics, plastic toys or whatever elsewhere, if needed.Much bigger things decide above films: the economy, the political power of US and China gambling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Much bigger things decide above films: the economy, the political power of US and China gambling.There will probably be negotiations at many different levels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 Of course, and films is not the biggest part ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vc2002 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 That would be great. Xi Jinping, next Chinese leader, spent a part of his life in the US and likes Hollywood, so it's perfectly possible. You mean his visiting the US in 1985? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vc2002 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 If the ministry specifys exactly what they tolerate in a movie (sex, violence, politcal message), that would help a lot.That's the problem. They will never do that, otherwise it will actually crystallize their image of dictatorship.The government banned websites like youtube facebook. They never gave official explainations. They never openly talked about it because "on the outside", China is, as they self-describled, a democratic country and people have the freedom of speech. If they specify the reason to ban those sites, it would be like telling everyone that "look, we lied about all the democracy crap, and we are not what we called ourselvers was." This is actually rather critical if you want to understand how the Chinese government works, which is so called "unpublished rules". Although, I'm sure every government has its "unpublished rules". It happens in every country, and it just penetrated into the society a whole lot deeper in CHina. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 The world is a mess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 Tuesday: Shit, Ralph is flopping. OD is pretty much on par with BRAVE, which was a mega bomb and also opened on a Tuesday. Whether Ralph can even outgross The Lion King (1995, 41M yuan) or not remains to be seen. Will look into this later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 this is so sad.Ralph is the the best animated movie this year so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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A Marvel Fanboy Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 The Bourne Legacy repeated #1 last week with $11.6 millions while its total gross climbed to $26 millions after 11 days. The second cycle of the fourth Bourne installment falls 15 millions yuan short of that of Rise of the Planet of the Apes during the same frame of the year., which obviously, is due to the lack of Apes level word of mouth. Overal, Bourne is still 8 millions yuan ahead, thanks to one more day of debut. However whether or not TBL can clear Apes 208M yuan remains to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 That's the problem. They will never do that, otherwise it will actually crystallize their image of dictatorship.The government banned websites like youtube facebook. They never gave official explainations. They never openly talked about it because "on the outside", China is, as they self-describled, a democratic country and people have the freedom of speech. If they specify the reason to ban those sites, it would be like telling everyone that "look, we lied about all the democracy crap, and we are not what we called ourselvers was." This is actually rather critical if you want to understand how the Chinese government works, which is so called "unpublished rules". Although, I'm sure every government has its "unpublished rules". It happens in every country, and it just penetrated into the society a whole lot deeper in CHina.Censorship exists everywhere. At least in the form of selfcensorship. Certain things you don't say, you don't show. The rules always change. In Austria you must not say that anything was better during the 3rd Reich (that is simply stupid, but you get into trouble if you disobey). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efialtes76 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Tuesday: Shit, Ralph is flopping. OD is pretty much on par with BRAVE, which was a mega bomb and also opened on a Tuesday. Whether Ralph can even outgross The Lion King (1995, 41M yuan) or not remains to be seen. Will look into this later. So,WIR under Rise of The Guardians in China? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 So,WIR under Rise of The Guardians in China? Still not likely. RotG may be a bigger bomb ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POLYLOVE Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Non-sequel animation always bombs in China. Kongfu Panda was the only exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 That is amazing for TBL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 Average hit I would say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofan Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 BD1 should be the highest grossing twilight movie , right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Violence Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 (edited) You mean in China? The only other Twilight that got a theatrical run there was the first one, which made 11.5m yuan back in 2009. So BD1 wins there, it's not even close. If you mean worldwide, then that's another yes, but BD1 was already the highest grosser (though just barely) before it opened in China. Edited November 7, 2012 by Bob Violence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...