druv10 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 But how come THG didn't gain many new fans compared to something like Thor or even GI Joe? TA and IM3 helped Thor 2 and original GI:Joe was pretty big in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Let us look in the franchises way: Harry Potter yearly ranks WW: HP1 --------- 2001 ------ 1 HP2 --------- 2002 ------ 2 HP3 --------- 2004 ------ 2 HP4 --------- 2005 ------ 1 HP5 --------- 2007 ------ 2 HP6 --------- 2009 ------ 2 HP7 --------- 2010 ------ 3 HP8 --------- 2011 ------ 1 Harry Potter yearly ranks China: HP1 --------- 2002 ------ 2 HP2 --------- 2003 ------ 1 HP3 --------- 2004 ------ 9 HP4 --------- 2005 ------ 3 HP5 --------- 2007 ------ 5 HP6 --------- 2009 ------ 10 HP7 --------- 2010 ------ 8 HP8 --------- 2011 ------ 7 Mission Impossible yearly ranks WW: MI1 --------- 1996 ------ 3 MI2 --------- 2000 ------ 1 MI3 --------- 2006 ------ 8 MI4 --------- 2011 ------ 5 Mission Impossible yearly ranks China: MI1 --------- 1996 ------ 6 MI2 --------- 2000 ------ 6 MI3 --------- 2006 ------ 7 MI4 --------- 2012 ------ 5 There are franchises (HP) that perform worse and worse (in a relative way) over the years with each installment in China. And there are ones that mostly stay flat (MI). Franchise like HP or THG, every installment is so close to each other that in a quickly developing market like China their yearly ranks, despite staying flat WW, will keep dropping if they cant gain new fans in a rate outpacing the increase of the whole marketplace. The stability of Mission Impossible series in China, despite having dropping big WW in ranking over the years, on the other hand, means MI5 will have no problem at all getting a spot in the 2016 yearly top 10, no matter how big the overal market will be by 2016. (unless MI5 sucks in quality and flops everywhere). THG ranked #24 in 2012, but CF probably wont even be in top 30. MJ1 and MJ2 likely will keep dropping in ranks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senmitsuji Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) But how come THG didn't gain many new fans compared to something like Thor or even GI Joe? The first film wasn't that well received (it has like a 6.5 on a popular movie rating site in China) and the GA is more into bayplosions type of films. Plus I don't think the books are popular there either (I could be wrong, but I've never seen anyone talking about them) which is why its increase is less than other countries. Edited November 22, 2013 by loki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ent Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) But how come THG didn't gain many new fans compared to something like Thor or even GI Joe? Thor is a super hero movie. Since 2012 they all do relatively well. From TA to TDKR to TASM to IM3 to MOS...even The Wolverine reached $40 millions. Add to that, it is a by product from TA somewhat related to IM3 too. Edited November 22, 2013 by Ent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Thursday #sGravity 23m 82mCF 14.5m , 10% increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Both decreased from estimates..... but CF, ouch! Is this even gonna do 200m? Is this even gonna match THG?How is Friday looking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Both won't increase much, cuz another big movie opens.Gravity late shows are selling better than CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) THG OD 13M on 2500 screens. CF OD 14.5M on 4500 screens, including 700K midnight. Ouch ..... the marketplace is 45% bigger than 18 months ago, yet the sequel just increased minor 10% on OD. Both decreased from estimates..... but CF, ouch! Is this even gonna do 200m? Is this even gonna match THG?How is Friday looking? 200m is not happening at this point. Target is matching THG total 174M, unless it miracley strikes big on Saturday and Sunday. Edited November 22, 2013 by firedeep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 My CF show almost sells out, half an hour to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POLYLOVE Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Gravity is making a great jump at Friday night! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackzack Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 GRAVITY will earn $23M by Monday? Is my estimate close to general predictions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POLYLOVE Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) GRAVITY will earn $23M by Monday? Is my estimate close to general predictions? Gravity is on track of a $30M+ OW!! Edited November 22, 2013 by POLYLOVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Yep, Gravity is doing 2 times better late shows than Tue-Thur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Think 30m+ for Gravity, and 16m for CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 $30m (183m) OW for Gravity is well locked. Maybe even 200m is locked. I am thinking 82m + 32m (Fri, +40%) + 57m(+80%) + 48m = 220M 6 days. If LOP can jump 110% on Sat last year this time, 80% for Gravity is doable. WB's second biggest OW behind PR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Meanwhile, CF stays flat on Friday, barely no increase at all. Control seems to open around 5.5M Fri, which means 100m is competely dead for the multi-studios action thriller. TDW and EP are not recovering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 and 16m for CF. more like 70m (11.5m) .... flat with THG (68M), or slightly more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 more like 70m (11.5m) .... flat with THG (68M), or slightly more. Talking about Friday gross in yuan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Talking about Friday gross in yuan. Thought it was for OW in $ ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Friday Est Gravity-----------32M----------------114m CF-----------------15.5m--------------30m Control-------6.5m new Thor2------3M-------313M EP---------2.4m------232m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...