Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. It's very DL to miss the most obvious: The Hangover 3, also a Thursday Memorial Day weekend release, made $3.1M from late night previews (I think it was 10PM but I can't find corroborating info) and an $11.8M OD. Baywatch isn't a franchise film, but previews started earlier, so it's difficult to gauge how big the OD will be just from this. I think anything from $4.5M to $7M is possible.
  2. BTW, I did like the film. It's not a great film thanks to some sections that are bafflingly bad, but there's some very good stuff in here too. The frontlines/"No Man's Land" section in particular is pretty fantastic, both from an action perspective and it is genuinely inspiring and uplifting. It's the sort of stuff that makes superheroes so culturally relevant. It's a mixed bag overall, so I'd give it a C+. Just for reference, that's at least a full letter grade above any other DCEU film for me.
  3. He does not mind control people. He does give suggestions to key figures on the best ways to kill people, and has apparently done this throughout human history. So while he's apparently not a corrupter of souls, he is at least an accessory to mass murder. I honestly found that whole aspect of the film terrible. The reveal landed with a thud for me, because it's laid on so thick that Danny Huston is Ares that it's obvious it isn't him and the character it ends up being is the most apparent pick. What follows is a ton of exposition and a quite awful CGI fight. Plenty of superhero films have had a similar problem with 3rd act reveals that lead to weak final fights, but this feels extra insulting since the film was examining Diana's view on some very heavy questions about the nature of humanity. The film answers them, but in an incredibly hamfisted way and even the emotional beats of those last 20 minutes are undermined by Ares. They should have cut him from the film, but I guess you have to fill that quota of god vs god style fight scenes.
  4. It's an odd beast. Overall it's definitely my favorite DCEU film, but still a middle of the road comic book flick at best. For the first 30 minutes or so, I thought this film was in deep trouble. But it finds its footing and is loads of fun after that until the last act, which is equal parts engaging and embracing of the worst attributes of CGI superhero fighting.
  5. I'm really liking how Jon Favreau looks like he'll be fairly important character in the film.
  6. 1. In 2. In 3. In 4. Out 5. Out 6. Out 7. In, but this is fucking close. 8. Out 9. In 10. In 11. Out 12. Out 13. Out 14. In Some of these are going to be fun to watch, though I kind of wish 8 and 9 were actually threads.
  7. I would say it's probably because they want people to get buzzed and talking about the reviews as soon as they're done with holiday weekend plans. At the risk of eating crow, WB wouldn't push up the embargo unless they felt the film was getting good reviews.
  8. You never know. They may be taking inspiration from Fox and the exploding farts of Professor X
  9. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRUy_Q3HJp8#t=20s DamienRoc pulling a Jack Sparrow on Tele.
  10. That is... certainly a busy poster. Jeez. BO wise, I think the biggest boon for this film is that it's likely to be the only live-action blockbuster to bring out the under 25 crowd in force.
  11. I love the new trailer and really love the first half of the international trailer. That cellphone footage is gold.
  12. Just got out of a screening for this. Goddamn this is a cool fucking movie. I think it's easily the most accomplished film Edgar Wright has made to date. His style is on full display, but it also features moments of experimental filmmaking that I was shocked to see from him. Most notably, the film visually shows how our mind operates when we listen to music in our lives. This makes the car chases exciting and unique in a manner that blew me away. The characters themselves are all fantastically written and fun, even the ones that you hope get their comeuppance. I'm still processing it, and I'm definitely going to catch another showing when it properly releases. I think my only negative is that I did not quite buy into the romance so much as simply being swept along with it due to just fun the film is.
  13. I don't see TF5 making $200M if Pirates doesn't. I mean, TF4 had even worse legs than On Stranger Tides despite summer weekdays, as well.
  14. We at least know from the reviews and the trailers that this is chock-a-block full of dick jokes. I do feel like maybe someone could figure out if this movie's comedy is for them based on that.