IndustriousAngel

that's what I meant, actual weekend should be quite a bit higher than 110k - not enough I guess but it's getting closer than expected

seems like Magic Mike is still fighting for the weekend crown ... good numbers, let's wait for updated estimates!

yep but getting harder with this drop, especially with Ant-Man grabbing a lot of screens next week

according to insidekino.de, with the exception of Magic Mike, the openers are staying behind expectations, closer to 50k than 100 ... #1: Avatar2 - 200k (-36%) #2: Die drei ??? - 150k (-35%) #3: MagicMike - 185k including the strong Wednesday ("Ladies night") #4: Puss in Boots - 85k (-32%) #5: Maurice - 55k incl some previews

the 4DX shows are selling out, but the 3D shows on the biggest screen have very very low presales ... going by my cinema, I'd say a 50k max OW for Germany. With it being obviously a great choice vor Valentine's, it might get great weekdays after, but overall, not that big a splash.

Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Avatar 2 313.254 621 504 9.018.170 122.410.444 -20 8 2 Die drei ??? - Erbe des Drachen 228.590 670 341 630.246 4.885.612 -10 2 3 Puss in Boots 2 124.593 715 174 1.693.284 14.209.887 -2 7 4 Plane 72.014 382 189 72.615 713.059 - 1 5 A Man Called Otto 67.458 296 228 85.349 808.251 - 1 6 Caveman 45.502 571 80 147.484 1.360.889 -25 2 - BTS: Yet to Come 43.372 261 166 64.349 1.002.577 - 1 7 M3GAN 43.339 415 104 395.705 3.852.612 -28 4 8 Der Räuber Hotzenplotz 38.413 611 63 868.648 6.244.169 -5 9 9 Babylon 30.503 344 89 162.672 1.810.350 -28 3 10 Die Schule der magischen Tiere 2 29.787 352 85 2.664.512 19.496.483 +5 19 11 The Banshees of Inisherin 28.163 196 144 306.069 2.850.559 -15 5 12 Shotgun Wedding 28.105 458 61 174.380 1.614.891 -38 3 13 Winterabenteuer mit Pettersson und Findus 23.602 267 88 23.602 111.291 - 1 14 Heojil Kyolshim 20.138 81 249 25.890 239.198 - 1 15 Operation Fortune 18.853 358 53 383.041 3.627.319 -42 5 16 Oskars Kleid 13.314 397 34 539.515 4.855.201 -34 7 17 Was man von hier aus sehen kann 12.313 217 57 217.444 1.935.506 -20 6 18 Pathaan 12.130 92 132 54.142 790.743 -57 2 19 Close 11.260 90 125 37.261 325.023 -20 2 20 Kutsal Damacana 4 7.195 36 200 18.134 178.804 -15 2 Good holds, especially for family releases, but weak openers (with the possible exception of Korean thriller Heojil Kyolshim which had the best PTA among openers). Avatar 2 continues its run to 10mil total. But the story this weekend were family movies: With school holidays now approaching (or already in power), Die Schule der magischen Tiere 2 might leg it to 3mil, unbelievable! Die drei ??? is also already a big success, a total somewhere around 1,5mil seems doable and if WOM catches on, maybe more. And Puss in Boots 2 is already a lock for 2mil total but should end with a total well over that number! In Austria, Avatar 2 was in front with similar numbers; Puss #2 with nearly 20k - the "Golden Ticket" for 300k total is locked; Die drei ??? on #3 also with a healthy increase but not on Germany's level. Both "big" openers did better in Austria, we had 5 releases >10k admissions! And #6, domestic hit Der Fuchs, not far behind that number - Austria continues to outperform Germany. Next weekend: Well, finally a really interesting weekend with a lot of potential 6-digit-weekends: - there's the re-release of Titanic - there's the 3rd Magic Mike movie - there's Knock at the Cabin - and an additional family CGI movie, Tha Amazing Maurice Which means screens are at a premium this week, but generally, business should see a nice uptick. I guess Avatar2 will stay on top, and probably Die drei ??? on #2, but behind that, we'll see a lot of change in next week's chart!

strange, no "Schule der magischen Tiere 2" - it's still in release and should have had >1000 admissions

final weekend estimates from insidekino.de: #1: A2 - 305k (-22%) #2: ??? - 220k (-13%) #3: PiB2 - 120k (-6%) Plane and Otto on #4 and 5

With weather more rainy than snowy (and windy, too), it's really a movie weekend, especially afternoons ... ??? and PiB2 are having a very strong day. Concerned about Otto, though, at my cinema it's selling less seats than Banshees - obiously I was wrong about there being a demand ...

In Austria even better, it should be close to 250k total after this weekend, and with school holidays starting today there's even a chance at 300k (especially since ??? isn't as popular here as it is in Germany)

early weekend estimates from insidekino.de: #1: A2 - 300k (-24%, usually actuals are higher than estimates) #2: ??? - 200k (-21%, fine) #3: PiB2 - 125k (-2%, seriously?) Plane and Otto on #4 and #5, while I didn't expect much from Plane, Otts's number are really disappointing.

wow, that's one strong opening ...

ah, good to know - comes with my warmest recommendations, I even wrote a review on imdb https://www.imdb.com/review/rw8845108 might be a bit difficult to understand in some places when you're not used to the dialect, but most of the movie should be easy to grasp for Germans.

btw, just saw "Der Fuchs", very strong movie imho (better than, say, last years awards contender "Corsage") and no wonder it's holding up so well; theater was pretty full for a weekday early evening. Don't know if it gets a release in Germany, though.

well, it's already >1mil and is having pretty the same drops as Germany, so 1,15-1,2mil would seem like the goal

super run (even better than in Germany) and yet, it won't reach Titanic's admissions (nearly 1,4mil) ... the most successful release in recent times was (back in 2001) Schuh des Manitu with nearly 2,1mil admissions. But it will top the Lord of the Rings movies; Fellowship was the most successful one, that had 1,07mil admissions in the end.

Germany's Top16 last weekend: title admisisons th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Avatar 2 393.402 644 611 8.607.712 116.658.024 -23 7 2 Die drei ??? - Erbe des Drachen 253.604 634 400 330.279 2.566.217 - 1 3 Puss in Boots 2 127.599 691 185 1.527.368 12.851.377 -12 6 4 Caveman 61.049 538 113 80.755 743.869 - 1 5 M3GAN 60.585 463 131 337.364 3.281.450 -29 3 6 Shotgun Wedding 45.277 472 96 135.366 1.246.164 -25 2 7 Babylon 42.583 356 120 118.444 1.318.593 -21 2 8 Der Räuber Hotzenplotz 40.359 648 62 812.391 5.884.856 +0 8 9 The Banshees of Inisherin 32.990 163 202 263.967 2.466.172 -14 4 10 Operation Fortune 32.678 423 77 356.442 3.373.754 -29 4 11 Die Schule der magischen Tiere 2 28.296 355 80 2.626.629 19.218.537 +5 18 12 Pathaan 27.979 93 301 36.391 536.755 - 1 13 Oskars Kleid 20.311 483 42 515.903 4.654.268 -37 6 - Billie Eilish: Live at O2 18.752 159 118 18.752 273.867 - 1 14 Was man von hier aus sehen kann 15.445 210 74 197.985 1.765.979 -29 5 15 Close 14.065 86 164 17.662 164.915 - 1 16 I Wanna Dance With Somebody 11.006 294 37 306.651 3.096.199 -36 6 Nice overall weekend - Avatar 2 once more with a good hold, and a surprisingly big OW for Die drei ???, while other family releases stood their ground. Die Schule der magischen Tiere 2 even had an increase, that movie seems unsinkable! The only really bad number came from domestic comedy Caveman which didn't even meet the already low expectations. In Austria, Die drei ??? came in lower (#3 behind Puss in Boots) and domestic biopic Der Fuchs had once more >10k admissions on #4, surprisingly good hold once more given the story; Caveman flopped even worse than in Germany. Avatar 2 won the weekend with numbers close to Germany and is now at >1mil admissions total, the first release to reach the "Diamond Ticket" since - drumroll - the first Avatar! Next weekend: No really big releases once more but A Man Called Otto might see some success, thanks not only to Tom Hanks but also the target demo which seems a bit neglected, looking at this week's chart - such is clearly not the case for actioner Plane, this seems like an instant flop.

Sunday updates, a bit higher for most releases, lower for Puss (still good hold) - 380k admissions for Avatar2 should be the 9th biggest 7th weekend ever.

Saturday updated estimates from insidekino.de, no changes

if estimates hold, that's excellent for the ???-Adaption ... I was hoping for something like a 150-200k max opening; with the numbers we're seeing now 1mil total (and a sequel) is easily possible. And also excellent numbers from Puss-in-Boots, beautiful hold once more against a strong opener.

that must be an absolutely crazy per-show-average, wow!

come on, it's not that bad there were quite a few German movies I enjoyed through the last years!

Germany's Top14 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Avatar 2 508.247 670 759 8.110.776 109.693.703 -31 6 2 Puss in Boots 2 144.427 673 215 1.377.841 11.607.758 -22 5 3 M3GAN 85.213 444 192 260.685 2.536.991 -38 2 4 Shotgun Wedding 60.166 452 133 76.802 695.697 - 1 5 Babylon 54.010 350 154 58.864 654.933 - 1 6 Operation Fortune 45.925 510 90 314.151 2.972.130 -45 3 7 Der Räuber Hotzenplotz 40.293 693 58 767.916 5.577.989 -36 7 8 The Banshees of Inisherin 38.463 150 256 215.533 2.015.133 -36 3 9 Oskars Kleid 32.116 575 56 480.601 4.354.943 -45 5 10 Die Schule der magischen Tiere 2 27.003 362 75 2.595.224 18.986.609 -22 17 11 Was man von hier aus sehen kann 21.674 212 102 171.879 1.539.534 -29 4 12 I Wanna Dance with Somebody 17.304 382 45 287.355 2.908.564 -46 5 13 Maria rêve 10.254 87 118 12.178 106.422 - 1 14 Le Otto Montagne 8.984 94 96 24.631 242.361 -11 2 An ok weekend, but only two releases >100k … Avatar 2 continuing ist run to >10mil, Banshees of Inisherin with a fine PTA once more and the two bigger openers a bit behind expectations. Puss in Boots 2 is showing a lot of staying power! And, off the chart, domestic Biopic Rheingold has finally crossed 1mil. In Austria, similar results (a bit better once more for most releases) with an additional domestic releases on #3, Der Fuchs had an excellent hold from OW (nearly flat), nice! So, three releases >10k. Avatar 2 is already >900k admissions here. Next weekend: Two medium-sized domestic openers: one more children's book adaption, Die drei ??? - Erbe des Drachens and comedy Caveman. In the US, the series is called The Three Investigators, it's been published in German since 1968 - so running for 55 years now, which means real popular I guess, but it's unsure how this will translate to BO success - anything above 750k total would be fine and warrant a sequel I'd say. Caveman - adapted once more from a popular play - should have the bigger OW but will probably fade faster.

no big changes in latest estimates from indidekino.de, only Shotgun Wedding is getting a bit stronger with each day.

Babylon and Shotgun Wedding both opening around 60k ... as mentioned, presales didn't look good but i was hoping for something much closer to 6 digits for both of them. Puss in Boots 2 is really showing a lot of power after the lukewarm OW! And Avatar 2 now in "normal" mode ... I was surprised by the good holds until now since it seemed to me it had much less rewatch potential than the first one. None of the people I know has plans to see it a 2nd time in theaters (and my wife watched the first one 8x ...), the general consensus seems to be that it's quite spectacular but the story not as involving and gripping as the first one's.