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Japan has a huge range. I'd probably put the lower bound at about 45 million, equal to what it's likely to earn in China. The upper bound is probably 130 million, on par with Toy Story 3. It probably needs about 60 million to get to 1.1 billion WW. But that's actually in line with other territories, at double Tangled/WiR.

Oh, right: http://www2.warnerbros.com/spacejam/movie/jam.htm

I've never seen Space Jam. I don't expect that to change any time soon.

Despicable Me? Also 3 years for an animated sequel seems perfectly fine. DM2 was a 3 year wait. All the Shreks hit on 3 year delays. Ice Age 2 was actually 4 years after the first, but they've hit on 3 year cycles since then.

It was probably Airport '77. But I guess it could have been The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh.

Yeah. 50 million's a tall order. But even if it comes close, that's fine. Frozen has done better expected in China.

Seems there's a post for early Friday numbers, but not Thursday. 1 The LEGO Movie $2,703,156 1% 3,775 0 $716 $151,710,096 2 Warner Bros. 2 RoboCop (2014) $1,185,003 -5% 3,372 0 $351 $34,200,106 1 Sony / Columbia 3 The Monuments Men $1,003,015 -4% 3,083 0 $325 $49,944,684 2 Sony / Columbia 4 About Last Night $850,970 -5% 2,253 -- $378 $30,746,290 1 Sony / Screen Gems 5 Frozen (2013) $453,749 0% 2,101 -359 $216 $379,704,335 13 Disney 6 Endless Love (2014) $420,025 -3% 2,896 -- $145 $15,841,255 1 Universal 7 Ride Along $415,305 3% 2,517 -168 $165 $118,505,800 5 Universal 8 Winter's Tale $311,188 -6% 2,965 -- $105 $9,093,901 1 Warner Bros. 9 Lone Survivor $241,335 0% 2,013 -467 $120 $119,730,906 8 Universal 10 That Awkward Moment $214,090 1% 1,922 -887 $111 $22,668,542 3 Focus 11 The Nut Job $190,183 5% 1,918 -1086 $99 $58,839,503 5 Open Road 12 American Hustle $179,477 4% 1,072 -416 $167 $142,383,074 10 Sony / Columbia 13 Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit $131,985 -7% 1,278 -861 $103 $48,472,678 5 Paramount 14 Labor Day (2013) $84,921 2% 1,664 -920 $51 $12,879,641 3 Paramount

1. Veronica Mars2. How to Train Your Dragon 23. Big Hero 64. The Raid: Berandal5. Mr. Peabody & Sherman6. The Wind Rises7. The Boxtrolls8. Maleficent9. Home10. Muppets Most Wanted

Nice! Great reference.

How much is that likely to grant it in total?

1 The LEGO Movie $2,673,346 -25% 3,775 0 $708 $149,006,940 2 Warner Bros. 2 RoboCop (2014) $1,253,309 -29% 3,372 0 $372 $33,015,103 1 Sony / Columbia 3 The Monuments Men $1,049,556 -20% 3,083 0 $340 $48,941,669 2 Sony / Columbia 4 About Last Night $891,511 -24% 2,253 -- $396 $29,895,320 1 Sony / Screen Gems 5 Frozen (2013) $454,973 -17% 2,101 -359 $217 $379,250,586 13 Disney 6 Endless Love (2014) $434,425 -25% 2,896 -- $150 $15,421,230 1 Universal 7 Ride Along $402,720 -17% 2,517 -168 $160 $118,090,495 5 Universal 8 Winter's Tale $331,446 -25% 2,965 -- $112 $8,782,713 1 Warner Bros. 9 Lone Survivor $241,560 -11% 2,013 -467 $120 $119,489,571 8 Universal 10 That Awkward Moment $211,737 -25% 1,922 -887 $110 $22,454,452 3 Focus 11 Philomena $194,563 -8% 1,225 721 $159 $31,334,395 13 Weinstein Company 12 The Nut Job $180,277 -6% 1,918 -1086 $94 $58,649,320 5 Open Road 13 American Hustle $172,048 -7% 1,072 -416 $160 $142,203,597 10 Sony / Columbia 14 Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit $142,550 -18% 1,278 -861 $112 $48,340,693 5 Paramount 15 Vampire Academy $122,479 -18% 2,676 0 $46 $7,229,331 2 Weinstein Company 16 August: Osage County $92,147 -5% 1,010 -317 $91 $36,127,608 8 Weinstein Company 17 Labor Day (2013) $83,230 -22% 1,664 -920 $50 $12,794,720 3 Paramount

Is there a list of the all time top admissions for Peru and Chile?

Jack the Giant Slayer - Quite enjoyable as a bit budget effects extravaganza, even if the use of antagonists in the plot is a bit odd.Snow Queen - It’s like a film that tried to predict Frozen and missed entirely. Not bad, but it’s mostly just a simple quest story.The Meaning of Life - Not quite up to Monty Python’s greatest films, but a fun revisit of their sketch comedy roots.Trading Places - It’s pretty good. Comedies nowadays don’t seem to go for the high concept originality we saw in the 80s.

1 The LEGO Movie $3,552,198 -72% 3,775 0 $941 $146,333,594 2 Warner Bros. 2 RoboCop (2014) $1,754,601 -48% 3,372 -- $520 $31,761,794 1 Sony / Columbia 3 The Monuments Men $1,309,323 -46% 3,083 0 $425 $47,892,113 2 Sony / Columbia 4 About Last Night $1,165,608 -47% 2,253 -- $517 $29,003,809 1 Sony / Screen Gems 5 Endless Love (2014) $579,200 -47% 2,896 -- $200 $14,986,805 1 Universal 6 Frozen (2013) $547,266 -70% 2,101 -359 $260 $378,795,613 13 Disney 7 Ride Along $485,095 -57% 2,517 -283 $193 $117,687,775 5 Universal 8 Winter's Tale $444,208 -37% 2,965 -- $150 $8,451,267 1 Warner Bros. 9 That Awkward Moment $281,784 -33% 1,922 -887 $147 $22,242,715 3 Focus 10 Lone Survivor $271,755 -52% 2,013 -856 $135 $119,248,011 8 Universal 11 The Nut Job $191,263 -72% 1,918 -1086 $100 $58,469,043 5 Open Road 12 American Hustle $184,015 -53% 1,072 -568 $172 $142,031,549 10 Sony / Columbia 13 Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit $174,119 -50% 1,278 -861 $136 $48,198,143 5 Paramount 14 Labor Day (2013) $106,278 -34% 1,664 -920 $64 $12,711,490 3 Paramount

Pick your sword and sandals epic. The all-white casts really get to me.

Today's movies: Bernie - While an interesting enough biopic piece, it doesn’t really succeed as a black comedy because none of the characters really come across as larger than life. So it’s mostly just sadly funny rather than despicably so.Bull Durham - While it’s a bit difficult to buy 30 year old Tim Robbins as a hotshot rookie, it does stand as a pretty great sports movie.A Monster in Paris - Not brilliant by any means, but pretty cute and enjoyable, even if the villain is cartoonishly over the top.The Forger - Kinda bland indie drama that doesn’t seem to know what sort of film it wants to be.Big Miracle - Enjoyably feel-good, even if the vast number of viewpoints tends to overwhelm the core story from time to time.

If Disney did move BH6 to Thanksgiving, I bet Dreamworks would move. They've actually had better relative success in the early November slot (Madagascar 2, Megamind, Bee Movie).

FYC:

I had a lot of fun reading the thread. Thanks, baumer and the panel for putting forth the effort.

It was fun to read all of this. Thanks for running it. Next year, can we have a Best Trailer category?

I think the PatF release date was because Disney got incredibly unlucky with Bolt. It seemed like a good, even perfect release date, given how animation like Happy Feet had performed in the pre-Thanksgiving weekend. But Twilight was a huge surprise, came out of nowhere, and had a very strong following among teenage girls, which is one of Disney's core markets. The fact Bolt was well received and had pretty strong legs didn't do enough. Thus, PatF was slotted a few weeks later to avoid the overcast from New Moon. Unfortunately, there really wasn't a good release date for it. Christmas was covered by the chipmunks sequel, so they couldn't push it back that far. It's unfortunately myopic that they didn't go for Thanksgiving itself, but while hindsight is 20/20 showing that the Twilight films were pretty much one and done as far as weekend dominance, that wasn't known until after New Moon opened. Disney was gun-shy and it didn't work out for them. With Tangled and Frozen (and even The Muppets, to a lesser degree), the now know that Thanksgiving is fine for releases, even if there's something big the previous weekend. Of course it helps to have a product that people are going to anticipate seeing. Bolt and PatF were coming off the bad mid-00s period which wasn't good for the studio.

I've been enjoying reading through these. There's more than a few of these movies that I've missed, so I'll need to catch up on some of them.

Oh, I forgot about the stage version. That could put upwards of a billion dollars more into the coffers: http://www2.broadwayworld.com/grossescumulative.cfm?sortby=totaltotalGross&orderby=desc

Now I'm sad I missed that.

Eh, I think it's fine that they stretch and try and do different things. Part of the problem with the late Renaissance (and especially with the 70s and 80s) was that they didn't show any real effort to innovate and try new things, giving a static feel to all their product. Arguably, Disney created the success of the Shrek series by not switching things up in the late 90s. So the attempts to do new things in the early 00s weren't met with broad success, but they weren't creatively bankrupt, either. Empereor's New Groove is one of the best comedy films ever made. Lilo and Stitch is brilliant on many levels. Even Atlantis and Treasure Planet have things going for them. Their lack of success is more because of cold audience response to traditional animation than anything else. Shoot, when Disney made the change to CGI, they did very well with Chicken Little, even though it was a pretty terrible film. So it's pretty great that Big Hero 6 is something new. Wreck-It Ralph was different, and that was great. This should be more of the same. If nothing else, Disney is showing that in this new Reformation era, they're willing to switch things up and break from expectations while still churning out quality product. I'm really enjoying that, and don't think they need to stick to princess musicals, even if I really enjoy princess musicals.