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"350k is better than any film did over this weekend!" It was meant more in general ;). I looked at least twice if this number is really right :). These are the Thursday estimates (via insidekino.de forum): New releases: Miss Peregrine's: 12k (starts in 520 theaters; mixed to very good reviews) – ok number to me but the trend tomorrow will be more helpful Sausage Party: 17k (409; good reviews) – not bad Blair Witch (2016): 9k (255; mixed reviews) Holdovers: Dory: 19.5k evening only (last Thursday evening only 52.5k) - Thursday is not that relevant too War Dogs: 5k (10k) Bad Moms: 19k (23k) - very good legs here in Germany too The Magnificent Seven: 10k (15k) SMS für Dich: 9k (12k) Snowden: 6k (6.5k) - a good hold again Purge 3: 4.5k (5.5 k) Nerve: 3.5k (3.5k)

Exactly. I'm one of these guys who discovered it later. After the decent but not overwhelming reviews I thought it could be mediocre and not worth seeing it in cinema and (IMO) I was wrong. A 15M opening would have been poor during the year but not as a Christmas release. And I can be wrong but wasn't there also a real world bad rampage to that time?

Dory had over 1.2M admissions counted with Monday which means around 350k moviegoers yesterday (and ca. 860k admissions weekend alone). Better than many films over the whole weekend ;).

That's true in regard to Dory but following this "rule" the numbers would have to go up tomorrow ;). At least the rest improved: Bad Moms: 215k Mag 7: 110k SMS: 100k War Dogs: 95k The Purge 3: 80k Snowden: 70k Tschick: 65k Nerve: 65k Pets: 50k Don't Breathe: 45k Frantz: 25k War Dogs does better than predicted and the holds are really fine.

It's almost unbelievable but the weather today/this week was still fine and not cold. What's up with this month please? ;). But as Aristis mentioned it won't stay like this the whole weekend. These are the Thursday estimates (via insidekino.de forum): New releases: Dory: 52.5k evening only – promising (not stellar but overall good reviews; starts in 762 theaters) War Dogs: 7.5k (ok to good reviews; 240 theaters) The Infiltrator: 1k (ok to very good reviews; 100 theaters) Holdovers: The Magnificent Seven: 13.5k - an ok hold (last Thursday actuals: 22k and sadly not 29k as estimated) Bad Moms: 27k (!) (25k) Snowden: 6.5k (10.5k) SMS für Dich: 10k (19k) Purge 3: 5.5k (14 k) Tschick: 7k (12.5k) Nerve: 3.5k (6.5k) DB: 3.5k (5k) Edit: The actuals were: Dory: 80k Bad Moms: 23k Mag 7: 15k SMS: 12k War Dogs: 10k

That's very good to hear :). To me Jack Reacher was a very positive surprise and I will definitely see the sequel in theaters. I didn't watch the first Reacher in cinema because of the mediocre trailers, the only decent reviews and the partly negative buzz (T. Cruise is too small to play this figure etc. etc...). After seeing the movie on DVD I regretted it. So even if I think Jack Reacher will get ok to good reviews they won't matter to me either way. And this time the trailers look good IMO. When it comes to the boxoffice numbers it's probably true that it will decline a little bit in the US due to the release date. Except the reviews and/or WOM continue to be very good. OS it should do the same numbers or better. I can only report from the biggest movie websites in Germany and what I've heard otherwise and that is pretty positive (around 4/5). Jack Reacher is now a little brand name here. And if it's true that it gets 25-35M in China this time that would really be a nice increase.

Again the whole day was sunny but don't be depressed ;) - it's now with significant lower temperatures and so no problem. These are the Thursday estimates via insidekino.de (forum): New releases: The Magnificent Seven (ok to good reviews; starts in 508 theaters; had no previews): 29k Bad Moms (ok to good reviews; 460 theaters): 27k Snowden (partly mediocre and partly very good reviews; 283 theaters): 9k Holdovers: Purge 3: 10.5k (last Thursday 30k, not a good hold) SMS: 16k (17.5k, a very good hold) Tschick: 9k (10k, also a very good hold) Nerve: 6.5k (13k) DB: 5k (10.5) SS: 3.5k (7.5) So I would say not bad for the new releases and Bad Moms should win the weekend.

I'm sorry, the post vanished. The final trend: Purge 3: 220k admissions SMS: 205k Nerve: 150k (so counted without previews it increased in its second weekend) Tschick: 125k Pets: 120k DB: 105 (counted without previews it stayed flat) SS: 70k Mike & Dave: 45k Connie & Co: 40k Jason Bourne: 30k Pete's Dragon: 30k Schweinskopf: 27.5k Ice Age 5: 25k I didn't see much else than rain when I looked outside in the last 48h, so I don't think the actuals will be worse ;).

IMO Steve Jobs was way better than that one with A. Kutcher but it still took its time till I was paying attention (in an emotional way I mean). Probably people also thought there's already one biopic and that was not good/terrible. Plus I don't know how it was promoted in all the other countries but in Germany the reviews were very good but always mentioned that there's lots of talking and you have to pay attention and that also discouraged some moviegoers I guess (as ridiculous as it sounds).

Let's wait for the first Friday estimates in a few hours (with Wednesday included of course). Maybe it's not such a flop as expected (6-7M as predicted at BOM, boxoffice.com e.g.). It's only 1% behind Blair Witch at MT (9% to 8%) and much more of a weekend film than BW. If Blair Witch is not heavily underperforming or has much more walk-ups this should be a good sign.

The first trend (partly beautiful and partly not) New releases: #1 The Purge 3 (started in 350 theaters, had no previews): 210k - very nice, The Purge had 80k admissions on its first weekend and The Purge: Anarchy 160k or SMS für Dich (600): 210k #3 Tschick (559): 120k Holdovers (very good holds): #4 Nerve: 110k (146k admissions last weekend without previews, -24%) #5 DB: 90k (108k, -17%)

B+. A well-played, exciting film but if you have seen films like The Raid - where I was a nervous wreck at the end - this films gets no A anymore. Overall a good movie with some maybe unrealistic but still interesting twists as well. And the opening scene is really no spoiler.

This is exactly what the mediocre reviews say ;): If you have seen „Citizenfour“ you don't need this movie. But I haven't (yet). In the next days I will rent The Fifth Estate (overall mediocre reviews here, too biased) so that it can only be an improvement to see „Snowden“ afterwards. Of course I know (now) that this film would have needed better reviews but OTOH Steve Jobs had fantastic reviews and even that didn't help. Maybe the average will rise furthermore (at least it improved from 25% to 45% now) but I think the success or let's say non-debacle depends mostly on if there is an interest of the public or not.

Now that would be great :). I'm pretty sure Mel Gibson is no easy person to handle but he is a great director and brings a lot of emotions into his films. And I would be glad to see Berserker or whatever it is called to get green light by a studio. When it comes to the boxoffice.com prediction for HR (11/37) I'm also optimistic that this prediction is too low. Please, what has Mel Gibson to do with the flopping of Machete Kills? ^^ And that the movie is released only a few days before the election - couldn't that just as well be a big plus? I mean The Passion was also discussed controversially. The film caused a lot of interest already (#26 this week at imdb e.g.), the reviews are (very) good so far and the film has at least two core audiences.

I'm surprised that almost everyone of you is predicting Snowden to fail so hard boxoffice-wise. But of course The Fifth Estate was a big flop and I can't estimate it from Europe very well. Here in Germany several newspapers already reported about the film and posted interviews with O. Stone and some other members of his crew. There could be a pretty big difference marketing-wise. Like in the US the first reviews here show no clear picture: Some reviews are mediocre and say the film is not bad but unnecessary. OTOH a very big movie website (filmstarts.de) scores it really good and says it's an intimate, well-played, eclected film. And it gets a lot of talking here but that doesn't mean automatically that it will be a big hit. Personally in case of doubt (if it stays so undecided from reviews) I will watch it and by the way I had no interest to see the Steve Jobs movies in theater (I've seen them now on DVD).

Not that bad for two of the newcomers - Nerve and DB :). Nerve had 179.496 admissions (actuals). The rest: Conni 30/325 Now You See Me 2: 25/230 Pete's Dragon: 25/160 Schweinskopf: 22.5/410 - fine considering the circumstances Mechanic 2: 20/170 Dragonball Z had also 20k visitors (in over 100 theaters this weekend but often only one show/weekend). Reviews from critics are mixed, user reviews are pretty ok. For filmfans this should be music to their ears: Weather-wise it's predicted to be sunny till Thursday and then the temperatures are said to halve themselves.

Not bad for Nerve and Don't Breathe! For comparison: Last Thursday Mike & Dave had 17k admissions for a 130/160k weekend and Ben Hur 8k admissions for a 55k weekend. This is what other films had last Thursday (mostly the actuals): SS: 31k admissions - not such a good hold this weekend if true The Mechanic 2: 7 k Pets: 4.5k (evening only) – a good hold Jason Bourne: 10.5k Now You See Me: 10.5k Schweinskopf: 6.5k – a good hold So a very mixed weekend could be on the cards when it comes to holdovers.

In a few hours (2-4) we know a little bit more. So far Nerve and DB lead the new releases (which is not so difficult) and the reservations at least don't look terrible. The big and unexpected problem is just the weather. It's again sunny almost without one cloud and warm and no end in sight. Hopefully some people are bored by the steady sunshine and outdoor activities and want some variation this weekend.

83% so far at Rotten Tomatoes with an average rating of 6.8/10. But only 6 reviews counted so far: 5 positive, 1 negative. Read that The Telegraph (UK) is also positive with 4/5.

By the way, Don't Breathe had the first previews yesterday and ca. 9.5k admissions (often very late, e.g. in mathäser at 11pm). According to some reports from insidekino.de (forum) it was #2 behind SS in several cinemas. Of course this says nothing about the film's legs but it shows that people have heard of it already :). WOM is also fine.

Yes I know (now), but it was warm and sunny here. I sat on the balcony in the evening like last Thursday. So I'm positively surprised :).

Maybe, just maybe, this weekend will not become such a disaster like the last one was. The estimates via insidekino.de (forum): New releases: Mike & Dave: 15k (ok) Ben Hur: 8k (not so good) Mein ziemlich kleiner Freund: 1k Most of the holdovers are doing much better than I thought: Now You See Me 2: 10.5k (last Thursday 15k) The Mechanic 2: 7k (10k) The Shallows: 5k (10k) Mother's Day: 3k (2.5k – so it increased if these numbers hold ) Suicide Squad: 32k (32k – it stayed flat???) Jason Bourne: 10k (15k) Schweinskopf all dente: 6.5k (6k - would be an increase too) Pets: 4.5k (evening only, 6k also evening only last Thursday)

The chart which MinaTakla posted is only for the weekend / 5 days. Still you could be right because 2 other day shouldn't make such a big difference.

Since I was interested in how The Mechanic 2 and Blood Father are doing in France I looked at cine-directors.net and this are the estimates for the whole next week (which started yesterday/Wednesday). Normally this website is very accurate. #1 The Mechanic: Resurrection: 200k admissions NEW – 212 cinema halls - 34k admissions yesterday #2 Un petit boulon: 170k NEW – 287 #3 Lights Out: 160k – 45% - 190 #4 Blood Father: 155k NEW – 232 - 24k admissions yesterday #5 Pets: 150k – 55% - 713 #6 Nerve: 140k -50% - 295 #7 Devines: 130k NEW – 193 #8 Central Intelligence -50% - 271 #9 Jason Bourne: 120k -50% - 647 #10 Le fils de Jean: 110k NEW – 197 #11 SS: 100k -55% - 581 #12 STB: 85k – 55% - 609 I saw school vacations are over so the (for France) big drops overall are pretty normal I guess (?). But at least both The Mechanic 2 and Blood Father improved from the first estimates yesterday which were 160k and 140k.

Yes, this estimate is pretty high but The Conjuring had 453.648 admissions, TC2 had 721.682 and the also well received Lights Out has 322.600 admissions so far and that in summertime. It's almost a wonder that summer lasts so long in Germany this year but it can't take long anymore till autumn comes. And then people have not been in cinemas for weeks or months and are interested again and so the 8th of September could be a good release date. I would also say DB looses less than 50%. WOM is very good (I think), there's really not much competition and Monday is a holiday. Lights Out was close with -50.2% . I don't know if school vacations were a factor then in some way but there was no holiday on Monday and it had much more competition.