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Pixar Box Office in ChinaYear Tittle China Gross (RMB) Total Gross (US$) # Yearly in China Worldwide Gross (US$) China%Worldwide1996 Toy Story ¥31,800,000 $3,824,782 11 $361,958,736 1.06%2003 Finding Nemo ¥35,530,000 $4,296,252 7 $936,743,261 0.46%2006 Cars ¥21,500,000 $2,756,410 26 $461,983,149 0.60%2008 Ratatouille ¥1,040,000 $142,466 60 $6 23 ,$722,818 0.02%2009 UP! ¥95,300,000 $13,953,148 19 $731,342,744 1.91%2010 Toy Story 3 ¥117,640,000 $17,690,226 26 $1,063,171,911 1.66%2011 Cars 2 ¥78,500,000 $12,246,490 43 $559,852,396 2.19%2012 Brave ¥28,550,000 $4,542,200 85 $538,983,207 0.84%2013 MU ¥209,740,000 $33,866,176 32 $743,559,607 4.55%2015 Inside Out ¥100,000,000 $16,025,641 80 $850,000,000 1.89%
For a better comparison, adjusted to the box-office wise market growth and the change in exchange rates here's what the various Pixar movies would have made in China had they been released this year and turned out just as big (or small) a hit as they did in their actual release -
Finding Nemo - 268.18m $, 7th highest grossing of its year (Yeah!! the 190m figure I got earlier was through directly adjusting the dollar gross from back then which was a mistake on my part since there has been a considerable change in the xchange rates since then - going down from 8.27 to 6.35 right now)
Cars - 56.9m, 26th
Ratatouille - 1.67m (... ), 60th
UP - 106.85m, 19th
Toy Story 3 - 80.43m, 26th
Cars 2 - 41.6m, 43rd
Brave- 11.64m, 85th
MU- 67.33m, 32nd
So IO is gonna end up as the third lowest grossing Pixar release since 2003 only above brave and Ratatouille.
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For every person who says Goosebumps is 10-15 years too late, there's another saying it's 10-15 years too soon.
Yeah, but the problem is there's no one saying it came out the right time.
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Does KFP3 have a confirmed release date here yet?
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am going to run through all the current preseasons so far just to see if any misreads have occurred. So far the main thing is I did not word Star Wars question 8 very well.
The over or under is meant to mean that within 150M can fall over or under KFP3 and still be correct.The gist of the question is, if KFP3 makes say 400M, will SW8 make within 150M of that (in this scenario between 250 and 550M)
Also preseason question 12 (foreign film grossing more in its home market that the 15th placed Domestic film) is specifically foreign language films (as in Spectre would not count as that makes the question obvious).
Didn't China already make the question obvious?
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Part 1
1. Will Goosebumps open to number 1 this weekend? NO
2. Will Goosebumps open to more than $25M this weekend? 3000 YES
3. Will at least two new openers outgross The Martian this weekend? YES
4. Will Hotel Transylvania 2 drop less than 43% this weekend?2000 YES
5. Will Bridge of Spies have a higher PTA (per theatre average) than Crimson Peak? YES
6. Will Pan increase more than 65% on Saturday? NO
7. Will Jobs make more than $1.3m for the weekend? YES
8. Will Black mass have a higher percentage drop than Scorch Trials on Sunday? NO
9. Will The Walk cross $10M by the end of the weekend? NO
10. Will Pan have a higher total gross than Sicario by the end of the weekend? 2000 NO
11. Will Woodlawn open in the top 7? NO
12. Will the Intern have the best weekend drop in the top 10? YES
13. Which film in the top 12 will have the best PTA? sTEVE jOBS
14. Will Crimson Peak make at least 37.5% of its opening weekend gross on Friday (including Thursday)? 2000 YES
15. Is everyone now crazy excited that Jem and the Holograms is now just a mere one week away?!? NO!!
Bonuses:
11/15 2000
12/15 4000
13/15 6000
14/15 8000
15/15 10000
Part 2.
Bonus Question 1. What will be the total Friday gross for the top 3 new entries? (5000) 23.2M
Bonus Question 2. What will be Pan's weekend percentage drop? (5000) 47.8%
Bonus Question 3. What will be Jobs' PTA this weekend? (5000) 35.6k
Part 3.
Placements:
2. GOOSEBUMPS
4. Crimson Peak
7. The Intern
11. The Walk
13. Black Mass
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Total Gross
Martian - 214m
Sicario - 50m
The Walk - 12.5m
Pan - 42m
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A: Domestic top 15:
1) Star Wars 630m
2) Mockingjay 2 415m
3) Good Dinosaur 305m
4) Spectre 285m
5) Peanuts 215m
6) Kung Fu Panda 175m
7) The Revenant 163m
8) The Hateful 8 160M
9) Bridge of spies 155m10) Creed 140m
11) Joy 130m
12) aLVIN AND THE cHIPMUNKS 110M13) Ride Along 2 105m
14) Steve Jobs 90m
15) Deadpool 85m
B: Top 7 Domestic OW:
1) Star Wars 180m
2) Mockingjay 158m
3) Spectre 90m
4) The good dinosaur 60m
5) Peanuts 58m
6) Kung Fu Panda 3 55m
7) Deadpool 43m
C: Worldwide top 10:
1) Star Wars 1.5B
2) Spectre 1B
3) Mockingjay Part 2 900m
4) Good Dinosaur 810m
5) Kung Fu Panda 3 605m
6) Peanuts 475m
7) The Revenant 390m
8) The Hateful 8 375m
9) Bridge of Spies 340m
10) Alvin and the chipmunks 310m
D: Total Grosses:
Top 15 Dom) 3.15B
Top 7 W/E) 643m
Top 10 WW) 6.68B
E: Top 5 Overseas Star Wars Territories:
1) China
2) UK
3) Japan
4) South Korea
5) Germany
6) France
F: Pre-season Questions:
A generous risk-free question to start you off: Predict which film will finish closest to each of the following milestones domestically by the end of the game:
A: 100M Ride Along 2
B: 200M Peanuts
C: 300M The Good Dinosaur
D: 400M Mockingjay
Each correctly predicted film scores you 10,000 points, get all four correct and receive 10,000 bonus points for 50k total. (This is the only preseason question where there is no penalty for being wrong so enjoy it).
1) Tell me which of these will be the highest grossing film of the winter domestically:
1) Goosebumps
2) Krampus
3) Creed 135m
4) Concussion
Answer correctly: 10,000 points
Answer incorrectly: -5,000 points
State that you abstain: 3,000 points
Correctly predict the films gross to within 10M and receive a 10,000 point bonus.
2) Tell me which of these will be the lowest grossing film of the winter domestically:
1) Point Break
2) The Nut Job 2
3) Victor Frankenstein
4) The Last Witch HunterABSTAIN
Answer correctly: 10,000 points
Answer incorrectly: -5,000 points
State that you abstain: 3,000 points
Correctly predict the films gross to within 10M and receive a 10,000 point bonus.
3) Will at least 3 films make more than 300M domestically by the end of the game?YES
Answer correctly: 15,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 10,000 points
State that you abstain: 3,000 points
4) Will animated films combine to make more than 500M domestically by the end of the game? (Chipmunks is not considered animated here)YES
Answer correctly: 15,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 10,000 points
State that you abstain: 3,000 points
5) Will at least 2 films make more than 140M OW domestic?YES
Answer correctly: 15,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 10,000 points
State that you abstain: 3,000 points
6) Will any film in the top 15 domestic have its domestic total outgrossed by its Chinese total?YES
Answer correctly: 15,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 10,000 points
State that you abstain: 3,000 points
7) Will at least two months’ OW records be broken by the end of the game? (This is 3 day only)YES
Answer correctly: 20,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 15,000 points
State that you abstain: 4,000 points
8) Will at least 2 of the 5 top grossing sequels/prequels/reboots become the top grossing film of their franchise by the end of the game?YES
Answer correctly: 20,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 15,000 points
State that you abstain: 4,000 points
9) Will at least 5 different films in the top 15 be nominated for Oscars in either Acting, Best Song, Best Director, Best Screenplay or Best Animation or Best Film?YES
Answer correctly: 20,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 15,000 points
State that you abstain: 4,000 points
10) Will the combined gross of the top 2 films domestic exceed 1 Billion Dollars?
YESAnswer correctly: 20,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 15,000 points
State that you abstain: 4,000 points
11) Will 300M dollars be closer to Kung Fu Panda 3’s Domestic total or its Chinese total?Chinese
Answer correctly: 25,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 20,000 points
State that you abstain: 5,000 points
12) Will any foreign film gross more money (in dollars) in its local market than the 15th highest grosser domestically does in the USA?YES
Answer correctly: 25,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 20,000 points
State that you abstain: 5,000 points
13) Will any film be pulled from the schedules at any point during the game due to fear of war with North Korea?
NO
Answer correctly: 25,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 20,000 points
State that you abstain: 5,000 points
14) Will any film opening in less than 500 theatres in its opening week, go on to gross more than 200M dollars domestically?
NO
Answer correctly: 25,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 20,000 points
State that you abstain: 5,000 points
15) Which combination of films will gross the most amount of money domestically during the game?
1) Mockingjay Pt 2, Bridge of Spies, The Night Before, In Heart of the Sea
2) Spectre, The Good Dinosaur, The Hateful Eight, Krampus
3) Crimson Peak, Peanuts, Kung Fu Panda 3, Goosebumps,
4) Star Wars, The Revenant, The Danish Girl, Zoolander 2
Answer correctly: 30,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 25,000 points
State that you abstain: 5,000 points
16) Which combination of films will gross the smallest amount of money during the game?
1) Burnt, Macbeth, Alvin and the Chipmunks, Pride and Prejudice and Zombies
2) Rock the Kasbah, Victor Frankenstein, Point Break, Ride Along 2
3) Jem and the Holograms, Sisters, The Nut Job 2, 13 Hours: Secret Soldiers of Benzhagi
4) Trumbo, Scout Guide to Apocalypse, Deadpool, Daddy’s Homeabstain
Answer correctly: 30,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 25,000 points
State that you abstain: 5,000 points
And Finally… The Return of the Jedi-centric questions:
1) Will Star Wars Gross over 400M domestically? YES
2) Will Star Wars Gross over 500M domestically? YES
3) Will Star Wars Gross over 600M domestically? YES
4) Will Star Wars Gross over 1B Worldwide? YES
5) Will Star Wars Gross over 1.5B Worldwide? YES
6) Will Star Wars finish top of all 3 main prediction charts? YES
7) Will 350M dollars end up being closer to Star Wars’ Opening Weekend total than its final domestic total? YES
8) If both are released before February 5th, will Star Wars’ China total be within 150M of Kung Fu Pandas’ (over or under) NO
9) Will Star Wars end up being one of the three highest rated Star Wars films on RottenTomatoes at the end of the game? YES
10) Will Star Wars have a domestic weekend increase at any point during the game? NO
11) Will Star Wars get nominated for at least 3 Oscars? YES
12) Will Star Wars manage at least 3 domestic weekends that are higher than Avatar’s comparative weekend totals in 2009/2010? YES
13) Will Star Wars manage at least 7 domestic weekends that are higher than Titanic’s comparative weekend totals in 1997/1998? NO
14) Will Star Wars gross more domestically in December than it does in January? YES
15) Will Star Wars be number 1 at the domestic Box Office for at least 5 weeks (consecutive or non-consecutive) NO
16) Will Star Wars’ combined total dollar gross from the UK and Australia exceed its domestic Opening Weekend total? NO
17) Will Star Wars achieve more than 10 Million admissions in South Korea? YES
18) Will China account for at least 20% of Star Wars’ worldwide total if released before February 1st? NO
19) Will Star Wars’ opening day (including previews) be enough for it to make the top 15 domestic regardless of its subsequent box office? NO
20) Will Star Wars still be in the domestic top 10 at the end of the game? NO -
Since it's not mentioned in the list of great movies you haven't seen, I hope Life of Pi is going to be on the list?
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23m more from Germany 4m more from Italy, 7-8 more from china, 1-2 more from US and maybe 2-3 more from the other remaining markets, seems most probable right now and would leave us with 860-861m. Can make 1-2 more in Germany, 1-2 more, at most, in China, 1 more in Italy and probably .5-1 more in Rest of the world and DOM for 865-867m but that's the highest possible range and would require some great holds. So, Can get to 865m but it's gonna be difficult.
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Pixar? No, its because it was Finding Nemo! It was so so good. Everything in the movie was the best. I still believe it to be the best animated american movie in the last 30 years. It was loved by nearly every single person who watched it. And You're comparing it to Minions? It's true though that The film beat then (TLK) was much much better than the film that would have got beaten now (Frozen) but still finding Nemo was on par with the movie it beat (and with 9 years of inflation and stuff after all) while Minions is not even half as good as Frozen, even if Frozen itself doesn't come close to matching the former two movies.I don't remember people being so pissed when Finding Nemo beat The Lion King. Because it was Pixar?
Finding Dory being huge in China is not assured at all as seen with Minions which "only" made $69m there. If China or Japan fails to show up in a big way for Dory than it is not getting the record either.
Also Nemo adjusts to around 190m in today's china and made more than the contemporary POTC and LOTR films. Obviously it's not at all guaranteed that Dory will be as big a hit as Nemo and is also a pretty late sequel but I'd still say it would cross the 100m mark at least (also helped by the fact that the market would have grown another 30% by then, meaning minions would have made 90m if it were to be released then and were exactly as big (or small) as now).
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With the holds it's having, >3mil or even 4 are definitely in play, family stuff is always very leggy - the only question is how hard it will get hit by HT2 this weekend. Since it seems to transgress the kids-only barrier, I think 3mil are sure by now, but 4mil will be hard - nice comeback for Pixar after some mediocre releases (mediocre from the success POV of course)
So that means we can expect 35m+ ($) total ?
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I think final box office should be $880 million. It should overtake The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring.
How so? It's not gonna make more than 10-15m more (at most) now in China. So it'll have to make 50m more in the other markets to get to this figure.
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That complicates things a lot..although I guess that was obviously inevitable.
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The totals for the films are what they make dom/WW as of 21st Feb and not their actual totals, right?
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Nemo did $4m in 2003, behind HP2 (6.4) and over POTC (2.7) and The Two Towers (2.5). Quite good IMO
Er...on mathematically adjusting it to the box-office wise market growth since 2003, that actually translates to 190.5m in 2016
... Not that I am saying it would grow exactly that way (but then others have, so why not?) but that does increase hopes, I guess.-
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Finding Dory is doomed in China. DOOMED!
Why? Did IO fail to become a hit because it was Pixar's? I don't think so. It just wasn't suited to their taste.. Why then would that mean doom for completely unrelated, but for the same studio, future movies? If it suits their taste or more simply - if they just like it, it will become a hit, else not. It completely depends on that film itself and not on how other films perform except, of course, in sequel and universe-sharing cases. And so I'd take the occasion to ask a more relevant question - how much did Finding Nemo make in China?
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A Toy Story 2 - Toy Story 3 increase would give an OS total of 938m. And I don't see any reason to rule out such an increase. This one is the sequel to an even more loved and much much widely seen, known and popular movie (nemo even holds the record for the highest selling DVD title of all time).
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Firedeep did predict 85m - go back to earlier pages and you'll find the predictions. Am not just saying anything
And just as you have the right to be annoyed, I have the right to voice my opinions. And I didn't say that multiple times here on this thread. Maybe you also confused this with the Minions OS thread which I post to regularly with updates.
I know he did but that was a lone much-higher-than-avg prediction. It wasn't equal to predicting 150 for minions rather closer to probably predicting 200m for it. And if he predicted that than he'll be the one saying it flopped. Us not calling it the same for it being close to our predictions does not mean we are biased. If there are more people calling minions a flop than its because it highly disappointed a lot more people too. That's not bias.
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Kylin was the most accurate predictor for IO.
Firedeep said 85 million USD for Inside Out in China and it seems Inside Out will be another situation just like MI5 and Minions both made 50 or 60% of their bloated expectations (70 m out of 150 and 135m out of 220).
What? The avg predictions for IO were no more than 40-50m. And everybody knew it wasn't realistic to hope much for it. While the avg predictions for minions were at least 120-130m. Don't just say anything, man...
And ou said in your previous comment that you were annoyed with people calling minions a flop? Maybe you don't realize it but it's actually us annoyed with you constantly, repeatedly, listing (many times even the same one again and again) its unnecessary, needless and not-at-all-amazing achievements. It's sometimes like someone saying AOU is just the 8th movie since 2010 to cross 400m,and then reminding people of that every day. You also may have not realized that since most people were over minions after the first few days, most flop comments now are only follow ups to your amazing run comments. So, you know, the point of the matter is - just let it go now buddy.
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That last scene from Titanic with them united in her death mostly gets me too.
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I don't really cry during movies. Mostly if a scene comes off as quite passionate, emotion-wise, even if not really sad, the awe of it adds to the other emotions and may move me. For example at the end of the pursuit of happyness, the emotions Will Smith superbly conveys through his expressions while walking on the street, clapping too to somehow let out the storming of emotions that has come upon him while the rest of the world, oblivious to him, moves on around him. Man, that scene is so filled with emotions, it always brings a tear to the eye. Apart from that you have movies actually so sad that you just can't keep from crying especially in their most beautifully depressing scenes. Greatest example being grave of the fireflies. Impossible to not cry after seeing it.
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DiCaprio isn't even good in Titancis so your credibility sank immediately.
Gosling, Fassbender and Phoenix haven't had bad performances in their careers. Can't say the same for DiCaprio.
Yeah, I meant since after Titanic. And considering he was pretty young and new to the game at that time I think he acted pretty well and suited his character. And anyways if you think Gosling is a better actor than him than there isn't really any point in arguing with you.
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Seems MINIONS has a good chance of topping IA4 in China to become 3rd highest Hollywood animated film EVER in China after KFP2 and BH6.
Cool!
Oh, c'mon now...
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Very dissapointing numbers in China, I thought 180+ is locked. And didn't even Forbes expect 250M or something like that?
Yeah, almost everyone thought 180m+ was locked. This is one of those rare occasions where a movie didn't grow in accordance with market growth. Who knows what went wrong, most probably the movie just didn't click in with the audience this time and there wasn't really any anticipation for it either. Maybe the franchise just lost its appeal to the chinese by this time.
Anyways I wouldn't really ever go with what Forbes people say. Most of the times they don't know much about the foreign markets they predict for.
... Not that I am saying it would grow exactly that way (but then others have, so why not?) but that does increase hopes, I guess.
Official Weekend Estimates: Goosebumps - 23.5M; The Martian - 21.5M; Bridge of Spies - 15.4M; Crimson Peak - 12.9M (Page 1)
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I don't understand it. You've got Spielberg, you've got Hanks and you've got superb reviews - a 93% RT rating... What more do the people need? What more do they want?