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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)
EmpireCity replied to Cap's topic in Numbers and Data
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2023 Box Office Predictions and Discussion
EmpireCity replied to Eric Loves Rey's topic in Box Office Discussion
I started to talk about it, but if it were me and trying to "fix" 2023's schedule, I do the following basic changes.... - Lionsgate moves John Wick 4 to May 19th - WB moves Last Train to New York to July 14th - Universal moves Fast X to June 16th - Sony moves Spiderverse back to November 3rd - WB moves The Flash back to October 20th - WB moves Barbie up to June 23rd - Universal moves Oppenheimer back to December 22nd - Paramount moves Mission: Impossible 7 to July 21st That gives you the following.... May Guardians 3 John Wick 4 The Little Mermaid June Transformers Fast X Elemental Barbie Indy 5 July Madame Web Last Train to New York Mission: Impossible 7 The Marvels August TMNT Meg 2: The Trench Last Voyage of the Dementer Gran Turismo Blue Beetle September The Equalizer 3 A Quiet Place: Day One October True Love Paw Patrol 2 The Exorcist The Flash November Spiderverse Trolls 3 Dune II Hunger Games Prequel Disney Animation December Wonka Ghostbusters: Afterlife Sequel Tiger's Apprentace The Color Purple Oppenheimer Migration -
I started to talk about it, but if it were me and trying to "fix" 2023's schedule, I do the following basic changes.... - Lionsgate moves John Wick 4 to May 19th - WB moves Last Train to New York to July 14th - Universal moves Fast X to June 16th - Sony moves Spiderverse back to November 3rd - WB moves The Flash back to October 20th - WB moves Barbie up to June 23rd - Universal moves Oppenheimer back to December 22nd - Paramount moves Mission: Impossible 7 to July 21st That gives you the following.... May Guardians 3 John Wick 4 The Little Mermaid June Transformers Fast X Elemental Barbie Indy 5 July Madame Web Last Train to New York Mission: Impossible 7 The Marvels August TMNT Meg 2: The Trench Last Voyage of the Dementer Gran Turismo Blue Beetle September The Equalizer 3 A Quiet Place: Day One October True Love Paw Patrol 2 The Exorcist The Flash November Spiderverse Trolls 3 Dune II Hunger Games Prequel Disney Animation December Wonka Ghostbusters: Afterlife Sequel Tiger's Apprentace The Color Purple Oppenheimer Migration
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The biggest issue I currently see is opening 3 older skewing gigantic movies right on top of each other is less than ideal. Indy 5 on 4th of July, then Mission: Impossible 2 weeks later and Oppenhimer the week after that is too much and will cannibalize each other. Theaters only have so much screen space, and even at a 10 screen theater, you need AT LEAST 3 full screens for any big new movie in the first week and AT LEAST 2 the following week. If you shove 4, 5, 6 releases on top of each other, there just aren't the screens to keep up with what it requires to push the numbers to the stratosphere.
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2023 Box Office Predictions and Discussion
EmpireCity replied to Eric Loves Rey's topic in Box Office Discussion
Black Panther isn't moving. That is staying in November. Disney marketing is in full force on it in 2 weeks. We are in the window where the 2023 calendar starts to take shape. I promise that if you take a picture of it right now, that it looks completely different in 3-4 months. Things will start to move. They have to, it is too overstuffed. I think going through specifics is a wasted excercise, but the better exercise is looking at the films least likely to move. -
Yeah, if the calendar stands as is, even some good movies with huge IP's are going to struggle. Not everything can win. There is just no chance that Guardians 3, Fast X, The Little Mermaid and Spiderverse release in a 5 week period. Something is going to move, and that something is most likely going to be Fast X or Spiderverse.
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There is going to be a lot of movement and late 2023 is only starting to solidify. Dune just moved to November last week, can't see Wonka going anywhere (especially after seeing the footage), and now Ghostbusters Sequel is locked. Star Wars and Star Trek of course aren't happening by December 2023 and will be removed from the calendar. In fact, I think if you take a snapshot of the current 2023 release calendar (for the entire year), it is going to look completely different in 4 months. It is awesome that we finally have a full slate of content coming out, and theatrical needs a full slate, but currently it is too full and I think a lot of stuff will shuffle around as we get closer. For example, right now March through August is ridicuously stuffed, but October 2023 is pretty much empty. If I am Warner Bros., I move The Flash to late October and buy more time to figure out the Ezra Miller situation. You can then slide Barbie into the June 21st slot.