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Well Rev's lifetime gross passed TFA's 3rd weekend yesterday. Kinda mind blowing if you think about it.

good news is 900mil is a lock now. Even with 50% week over week drops we get to 900 mil some time in mid feb (probably president day weekend). Thinking we end up with 915-925 now.

4.7 dollars in 1997 = 6.8 Dollars in 2015 Its much more expensive to go to a movie than it was in 1997. Ticket prices have increased more than 2X as fast as the rate of inflation. If you know anything about economics I should not have to explain why this is important.

TFA sucked the wind out of the entire market place for over a month before launch. Also Avatar was a different beast it was must see in 3D and 3D screens were much more limited, this left more room for 2D movies to thrive because people were waiting to see Avatar in 3D. So people went to see Sherlock and Alvin.

well this should be the last day we see TFA come in over 10 mil in a day.

yep. to think it took screens away from anything is just sad. That said. I needed a good laugh. The fact that Norm is in the theaters is probably funnier than the movie itself.

amazing 1st post. welcome to the forum. how is it bitter to care more about your home box office than somewhere else? If I lived in France I would care more about the success of movies in my own country than somewhere else. I would still take interest in other markets but be primary interested in what it does at home. I mostly care about US box office, however I am still interested in other others. 1. Domestic 2. English speaking countries (because they get to see the movie as intended, without awful dubbing or having to read the subtitles) 3. Europe (more developed and refined taste in cinema, less cultural differences). 4. Japan (developed market, its also fun to watch the legs on movies there, and I enjoy Japanese cinema) 5. Latin America (some interesting developing markets, tend to prop up bad movies) 6. Rest of Asia (There is almost no correlation with quality and gross there, they keep saving crap movies... ugh....) 7. Africa/ middle east / etc. (just because the markets are smaller, many of the smaller markets actual have pretty good taste they are just small)

yes which would mean that ticket prices have out stripped inflation since 2009. Its relatively more expensive now to go a movie than it was in 09. That was my entire point using ticket price does not capture the relative success of a movie. I can see why box office buffs might like using ticket inflation, but from an economic standpoint it is pointless.

I will add using real value of money to adjust over using ticket price also hammers ET. ET's initial run of 360mil is worth 873 million in 2015. If TFA makes it too 900 million TFA will be the most successful initial run for a movie since ANH(in total gross, ET easily made more "profit", the same cannot be said for Titanic which actually had a bigger budget than TFA). Ticket price inflation adjustment is meaningless. TFA's 900 milllionish will stand above all other initial runs when their grosses are adjusted for inflation(again not ticket price inflation). Do the studios care more about how many tickets they sell or how much money they make? If they thought the could double the ticket prices and still sell 60% of the tickets they did at the old price, they would.

115mil euro's in 09 is equal to 124mil in 2015 (Nov). Using ticket price to adjust to inflation is faulty. Adjusting gross to inflation is a much more stable way to look at it. If the 30 mil increase you gave is based on ticket price that says that the cost of tickets has increased at twice the rate of inflation meaning it is more expensive now to go to the movies. Based on simple economic that would mean all other things remaining equal(basically transplant the situation Avatar was in back in 09 to now) Avatar would sell less tickets in 2015. This is why using ticket price to adjust for inflation is faulty. A good example in the US. If you adjust Titanic by ticket price it comes out to 1166mil. If you adjust Titanic's gross (breaking appart the 600 made in 1998 and the 60 made in 2012) by inflation Titanic made 940 million in todays's dollars. TFA's 900 milionish it will make now will actually be more VALUABLE than the 600 million Titanic made in 1998 (by a solid margin) because the 600 adjust to 873mil.

what? its going to be at 855-860 mil at the end of the 4 day. For frame of reference JW did 60 mil more after the same point in its run. If TFA just does JW it makes 920 mil.

what you are saying is true in the general sense. However, this is an extreme example. To be one of the 7% who did not like TFA and the only one who like norm tells me your publication sucks at reviewing movies (great reviewers are great because the way they feel about a movie aligns with many people, that makes their reviews useful for people). That said, I just checked RT and they changed their review to a rotten and changed the heading. Seems to me they saw how terrible other people are reviewing the movie and did not want to be the only ones who "liked" it.

I work with a guy who was born in South Korea, his parents own a Korean restaurant in LA(in Korea town I believe). He said Leo is a regular at his parent's restaurant. He just comes in with a baseball cap on and enjoys his meal. Said he is a nice guy, just comes in and eats like any other patron of their restaurant.

lol. So... the god awful movie Norm of the North has exactly 1 positive review out out like 34 on RT. Its from "The Globe and Mail". That publication is one of the 23 of 320+ that gave TFA a rotten review. It was a different reviewer, but still. How can a publication have credibility with poorly representing the quality of respective films. Norm of the North better than TFA confirmed.

this is how I feel. I am happy Rev is doing well. Yea I love TFA, but cant be number 1 forever but I am glad Rev was the 1st movie to pass TFA(talking about daily grosses not weekend sums) as opposed to most other movies.

your sunday drop is too hard. Sunday will play more like a saturday(slightly down because church and some people are not off Mon) because most people are off the next day. A 15% drop Sat to sun is feasible IMO.

it would be fantastic for TFA to get a 34-35 4 day. I was thinking 32 would be really fine. would be okay with 30.

hmm. Thats interesting, even though TFA only got technical Noms I am wondering if the "5 Nominations" headline helped a little.

those are all going to 13 Hours and RA2?

not necessarily. Where I live Rev and TFA will split the IMAX screen. TFA has the 11am and 6pm, Rev has 2pm and 9pm. I dont see this hurt SW much, people who want to watch TFA in IMAX they stilll can. In fact some people (like me) may see the reduced showings this week and decided to catch it in IMAX before it drops completely. Honolulu is a fairly soft market for Star Wars too. I was not seeing nearly the amount of sellouts here OW as we saw other places in the country.

We have one IMAX in Honolulu, I just checked, starting Friday they will be splitting their IMAX screen between Rev and TFA TFA has the 1100am and 6pm screen times Rev has 2:20om and 9pm. 9pm makes sense alot really. The rated R movie that is doing slightly more daily would likely do better than a more family focused film at a 9pm start time. Its a win win, if you still want to see TFA in IMAX you can, and same goes for Rev, neither of the 2 are doing enough business to necessarily warrant the entire screen all day, but I will definitely get my last IMAX viewing in this weekend.

yep JW made almost exactly 100 million after the same point in its run. Hard to see TFA not matching, TFA will lose some ground each weekday, but gain it back and more each weekend. For instance TFA will lose 3-4 million on JW this week M-TH, but JW only made 18 mil its 15 weekend, hard to see TFA gain 7-8 mil back on weekend. Next week TFA will lose less ground on weekdays because of holiday on Monday. Then TFA has 2 more holidays in its run (while it should still be making decent money). Thats while I see TFA being pretty safe for 900 mil. I am moderately confident for 920. I have a hard time seeing anything over 935mil or so.

I am fine with this number, would be good to stay above 3 million on weekdays this week.

seriously? What would a country not want external investment. Its literally money being pumped into your economy and creating jobs with another countries corp's money. Why do you think China has boomed that past 15 years or so? Think about it.

was the song (see you again) popular in China? That is another way a movie can over perform in the US. It has a very popular song tied to it (See Armageddon, Titanic, Frozen, F7, 8 Mile, and the list goes on). F7 had dead actor+ hit song. I was not surprised at all by how much it over performed.