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There is no denial over that, but when all positive force and negative force act all in once, their effect got cancelled out. The nominal gross, somehow is the best metric we got to compare films from different era. Titanic had advantage of in the less-crowded blockbuster cinema and harder access to piracy while IW had advantage of developing countries boom and inflation. In the end, their advantage will cancelled out in term of nominal gross. But, there is no way to prove that Titanic is easier to get money in worldwide scale than IW, or vice versa. Trying to exaggerate the effect of one factor without considering the frictional factor that goes against it was absolutely mindless. My point is , and always will be, never dismiss an older era film when come to nominal gross, you can say whatever you want when analysing adjusted gross but not nominal gross.

My question: If 80s, 90s movie are really in advantage over 2010s movie in term of lack of competition and lack of piracy on internet despite inflation and expansion of OS market, there should be more 80s and 90s movie in the top 50 all time box office chart. But the real scenario is, we barely have. Explain why? Your answer: Because those movies you mentioned were massive breakouts. There are only a couple per decade. It’s like asking why don’t we have blockbusters grossing the same amount as IW and TFA in the 2010s. Are you listening to yourself? What are you answering? Even if so, why can't SW1, JP or TLK made 2b WW like how IW and SW7 did in their original run or at least 1.5b ? Super unpersuasive, your point still remains flawed and started to get stupid and stupider. Get yourself some education. I have no intention to discuss with you further. It was absolutely appalling. For your knowledge, IW had 38% of 3D share in its opening, translate to nearly 100m in 3D screen in opening weekend alone, which is still higher than the entire 3D run for Titanic. So , 3D may not huge, but it didn't give Titanic a whooping advantage over IW. And , that final showdown of 4D will only valid if both IW and Titanic get 4D re-release run someday.....

That is what happened when your movie make 2b WW, with nearly 1.4b from OS

Especially when you consider it did 1b OS without any warning.... I give you that, BP was the 2nd most..... 12 years in number 1, 10 years in number 2, I really doubt Avatar can hold that long as king!

Infinity war had one big advantage over Titanic, it's a 10 years build-up, which high pre-existing knowledge or familiarity or certain degree of nostalgic factor that easier to be marketed. While Titanic, being an original IP, i don't see why it make it simpler to market than IW. Let call a tie, but certainly not simpler. Just ask anyone from marketing team in hollywood studio, I bet they all will agree that Titanic is harder to sell. Your argument is full of slippery slope fallacy that merely suggest something on no ground like someone can't be bothered to keep up with complex reasoning. No one would discount IW's achievement, it's something so clear, and people feel so much the hype. But none of those hype are strong enough to disdain Titanic's legacy.

It's so flawed that you don't even acknowledge the flaw. Don't put adjusted inflation chart in the game, I do admit that competition and no internet piracy put older generation film in advantage, that explain why the admission chart are full of older generation movie. And adjusted inflation game really put modern movie in structurally disadvantage position. When two opposite force that in act, let just look at nominal gross, so that whatever inflation effect, china effect and internet piracy effect are cancelled out. Please explain why there is only 3-4 movie form 90s, Titanic , SW1, TLK and Jurassic park stayed in the all time top 50 when they had so little competition and like you said , no internet piracy. By your theory, there should put more movies coming from no internet era, no competition era in the top 50. Titanic did benefited from 3D release, but so too IW, and SW7 and every modern blockbuster, I am pretty sure it's a fair game still......

Another competition argument that sound convincing yet so flawed, and contradict to the result, if your lack of competition theory was so powerful, the worldwide chart will be full of 80s, 90s movie. But if you look at top 50 movie of all time, the prevailing movie are all 2000s, you can even barely find pre-2010 movie in top 10 chart. The LACK OF COMPETITION, INTERNET theory has FAILED, a total failure in explaining why unadjusted/nominal box office chart are full of 2000s movie. Please give a reasonable argument to explain that if 80s, 90s movie are really that powerful when there is no internet, no competition, they still failed to land on the top of chart. Only one explanation here, the inflation and expansion of overseas market have totally wiped out, the so-called, lack of competition, no much blockbuster, or internet privacy, that put older movie in advantage.

Black Panther $700m domestically is the most mysterious achievement of all time, how can a stand-alone, B class superhero destroy mega-assembly of marvel's superhero? I do wish Titanic can linger few more years, as long as possible on the 2nd worldwide. It's been 8 years....I hope it can challenge A new hope as the longest standing 2nd place of worldwide(from 1983-1993)

If IW or TFA or any other film can make 300m+ in china in 90s, I will give you that..... And, technically, titanic didn't have 3D, PLF or IMAX in its release. And titanic 3D rerelease came in 2012, that is before TFA(2015) and IW(2018), so technically it never got surpassed by both film...as that gross was already been made prior their release. It's not like titanic has been overtaken but claiming back the position through rerelease.

at least deadpool 1 had 1 week of spring break? In that 1 week, DP1 did show stronger mid-week than other weeks

not being the worst doesn't mean it is good....

No, my instinct tell me in a foreseeable next 2 years, the ER will stay as bad as they are now,

NEVER exclude titanic 3D rerelease given that Titanic had no IMAX/3D or even PLF advantage in 90s, neither China are big as what they are today.

well, with IW reached its final milestone most likely.....I would like to extend my gratitude to all European and Japanese, thanks to their undying love to Titanic, that helped Titanic to retain its 2nd worldwide for another year. UK, Italy, Germany, France and Spain, the big 5 from Euro + Japan contributed more than $450m of advantage that allow Titanic to contain the mega-assembly of Marvel, especially when every continent of the world went crazy over IW. I am deeply thankful to European and Japanese for protecting my precious Titanic in the all time box office chart....I hope European and Japanese will come for that honour when IW2/A4 come next year!

https://screenrant.com/avengers-infinity-war-2-billion-box-office/ Avengers: Infinity War Hits $2 Billion At Worldwide Box Office

father day usually give male-skewed, father-aged brand while PG-13 movie a boost In fact, all marvel since the 1st avengers, iron man3, amazing spider man 2, ultron, civil war, GOTG 2 all increased in father's day

Japan Box Office: Weekend Actuals (06/09-10) (C)2018フジテレビジョン　ギャガ　AOI Pro.Weekend Actuals (06/09-10)01 (---) ¥445,000,000 ($4.1 million), 0, ¥771,938,600 ($7.0 million), Shoplifters (Gaga) NEW 02 (01) ¥240,453,700 ($2.2 million), -36%, ¥1,110,837,600 ($10.1 million), Deadpool 2 (Fox) WK2 03 (02) ¥131,783,400 ($1.2 million), -06%, ¥483,000,900 ($4.4 million), 50 First Kisses (Sony) WK2 04 (03) ¥102,179,600 ($931,000), -15%, ¥8,073,552,600 ($73.9 million), Detective Conan: Zero the Enforcer (Toho) WK905 (---) ¥93,870,100 ($856,000), 0, ¥93,870,100 ($856,000), Life in Overtime (Toei) NEW06 (---) ¥85,648,000 ($780,000), 0, ¥117,122,700 ($1.1 million), A Forest of Wool and Steel (Toho) NEW 07 (04) ¥69,702,000 ($635,000), -25%, ¥933,446,300 ($8.5 million), Peter Rabbit (Sony) WK4 08 (07) ¥62,413,000 ($569,000), -26%, ¥268,022,500 ($2.4 million), Over Drive (Toho) WK2 09 (06) ¥52,118,100 ($475,000), -31%, ¥508,454,500 ($4.6 million), After the Rain (Toho) WK3 10 (05) ¥47,145,500 ($429,000), -40%, ¥703,866,100 ($6.4 million), What a Wonderful Family! 3 (Shochiku) WK3>Shoplifters, the latest from director Hirokazu Takeba (The Third Murderer, Like Father, Like Son), delivered a great debut, and certainly one of the most surprising of 2018 so far. The film sold an impressive 350,000 admissions over the weekend frame across 34 screens, and after Friday's numbers and last weekend's previews (very rare occurrence), brought its admissions up to 613,582. I never doubted this film would do solid business, Takaba's award-winning films typically deliver solid box-office results, but this is definitely breakout territory and I could see it reaching ¥3 billion ($30 million), which will be more than enough to be the top grossing May and June release this year. >Deadpool 2 held pretty well in its second weekend, and has already exceeded the ¥1 billion milestone. It's not locked yet, and I'd probably just consider it a 50/50 chance still, but the possibility of reaching the ¥2 billion ($20 million) milestone, and matching the original, is looking doable. >50 First Kisses was likely to hold well given its genre, but a sub-10% second weekend drop is incredibly impressive. Its opening weekend was slightly lower than I expected and I didn't think it could reach the ¥1 billion milestone, but it's probably going to get there now. >Detective Conan: Zero the Enforcer continues to kill it at the box-office, remaining in the Top 5 in its ninth-weekend of release after an excellent decline. It is now only the second domestic franchise animated film to ever exceed the ¥8 billion milestone, and unless it experiences a harsh drop soon, it's probably going to outgross Stand By Me, Doraemon (¥8.38 billion) to become the highest-grossing domestic franchise film of all-time! And as I've mentioned recently, this film is likely to take the 2018 yearly crown.

TW LW Title (click to view) Studio Weekend Gross % Change Theater Count / Change Average Total Gross Budget* Week # 1 N Ocean's 8 WB $41,607,378 - 4,145 - $10,038 $41,607,378 $70 1 2 1 Solo: A Star Wars Story BV $15,748,575 -46.4% 4,335 -46 $3,633 $176,700,049 - 3 3 2 Deadpool 2 Fox $14,148,517 -39.0% 3,823 -338 $3,701 $279,164,058 $110 4 4 N Hereditary A24 $13,575,172 - 2,964 - $4,580 $13,575,173 - 1 5 4 Avengers: Infinity War BV $7,238,699 -31.1% 2,882 -688 $2,512 $655,136,398 - 7 6 3 Adrift STX $5,272,049 -54.6% 3,015 - $1,749 $21,962,065 $35 2 7 5 Book Club Par. $4,285,456 -39.1% 2,802 -367 $1,529 $56,959,580 - 4 8 N Hotel Artemis Global Road $3,232,790 - 2,407 - $1,343 $3,232,790 - 1 9 6 Upgrade BH Tilt $2,384,415 -49.0% 1,458 +1 $1,635 $9,346,020 - 2 10 7 Life of the Party WB (NL) $2,167,142 -38.2% 1,842 -669 $1,177 $50,328,719 - 5 11 8 Breaking In (2018) Uni. $1,442,755 -48.7% 1,162 -520 $1,242 $44,078,940 $6 5 12 10 Overboard (2018) PNT $1,161,861 -40.4% 1,056 -172 $1,100 $47,589,440 - 6 13 11 A Quiet Place Par. $1,053,285 -40.5% 904 -252 $1,165 $185,513,628 $17 10

Total Lifetime Grosses Domestic: $655,136,398 32.8% + Foreign: $1,344,335,380 67.2% = Worldwide: $1,999,471,778

Disney now are trying to find any single cent to make $2b WW in 47 record speed....

erm....I think it will end up something like this....when furious 7 failed to reach 1st avengers 6 Marvel's The Avengers BV $1,518.8 $623.4 41.0% $895.5 59.0% 2012 7 Furious 7 Uni. $1,516.0 $353.0 23.3% $1,163.0 76.7% 2015

Total Lifetime Grosses Domestic: $654,733,699 32.8% + Foreign: $1,344,335,380 67.2% = Worldwide: $1,999,069,079 OS went up in actual by 1m, can domestic up too by 1m? if yes, 2b ww in 47 days, the fastest ever....

Total Lifetime Grosses Domestic: $654,733,699 32.8% + Foreign: $1,344,335,380 67.2% = Worldwide: $1,999,069,079

Total Lifetime Grosses Domestic: n/a 0.0% + Foreign: $150,900,000 100.0% = Worldwide: $150,900,000 down 200k from $151.1m