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For folks who don't have XD, or a cable subscrpition (to watch in on something like Disney/Disney XD), the Star Wars Kids channel has put the season premiere of the second season free to view without restriction: === I personally thought it was a nice set up episode. Nothing groundbreaking, but pretty good overall. Obvs a table setter in some respects and also a sign that the entire season might be one long story, ala Season Four of Rebels (for what it's worth, already a lot of good buzz for the second episode coming up)

LONG MAY THEY REIGN!!!

One final thing. Not to be "that guy", but last year the Venom OW thread "only" hit 50 pages. This weekend thread looks to be clearing it or matching it. We're coming off the slow months, and while there have been some nice sized hits, people are still making their way back to the forum after a pretty slow back end of summer. Personally, and to paraphrase Mark Twain, I find the find the reports of BOT "dying" to be premature.

Top 20 OW R-rated films, all time (adj) I'm going to apply an initial filter to movies that I think clearly don't work as comps: Everything that was a comedy or action spectacle was removed. To me, the clearest direct comp is Hannibal and Logan. Ignoring any discussion over Logan currently because of Franchise War considerations, it is interesting how on the nose the Hannibal comp is. That too was a deeply unsettling flick, with the clear main difference being critical reception (and so far audience reception). It (or It 2 for that matter) doesn't really work as a comp as that wasn't a film that went out of its way to be unsettling on a character level. American Sniper could work on the controversy angle, I suppose. But I ain't really touching that. Passion of the Christ was pretty similar to Joker in that it also attracted a lot of controversy and had a pretty sizable "well made" v "I still don't like it" split among critics (IIRC and I might not). But that had a huge turnout from Evangelical Christians, so it really can't compare quite there. And we all know about the craze around Fifty Shades. Looking at this list, and being right around American Sniper, Hannibal, and yes, Logan, mid-90s is a great result for Joker. It is one of the most successful R rated films of its kind on OW. And in the running for the most successful depending on what filters one wants to apply. Doesn't mean it'll have great legs. Also doesn't mean it'll have terrible legs. Too soon to say. But Joker is a massive success for the type of film it is. Hard for me to see otherwise.

One was a PG-13 film, full of action, spectacle, and black comedy. One was a Hard-R film, deeply unsettling at times, and mostly a character study. I wonder which one should be expected to make more, all things being equal.

I think whoever becomes a new mod needs to abuse their new found mod powers do the BOT community a solid and pin either one of these posts the top this forum. 👍 === All kidding aside, just a fantastic vid. Informative, funny, and concise. Even had some great easter eggs in it. Can't think of a single thing wrong with it or missing, for that matter. A++++.

(h/t @cax16 for first posting this in the Joker thread; xposting it here coz I know some folks are avoiding that thread like the plague)

Though now that I think about it... A Wrinkle in Time had 1.3m in previews in March 2018. Eric!'s tracking is currently pointing anywhere from 1.2m to 3.5m (big range I know). AWiT managed to get 33m off that 1.3m (25.4x). Now this is an established property, so could be that's a really stupid comp. Going allll the way back to (lol) 2014, the first Maleficent did 16.5x off a 4.2m Thur. Let's knock it down to 14x or 15x maybe for more pre-sales now and being a sequel? Maybe? (NOTE: I still don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to internal multipliers, so feel free to ignore ) If we go with 14x though, might want to see at least a 3.5m Thr. *checks* Dumbo did 2.6m on its way to a 46m OW (17.7x). That maaaaybe might be a decent-ish comp, all things considered? Certainly says to me that 3m Thur might lead to a 50m OW after all. Maybe. Sequel factor might raise its head here. Regardless, nothing pointing to a breakout. Yet at least.

"Could be better, Bob!" === Who knows. Tracking is pointing to around 40m to 50m OW. The little pre-sale ticket info we have in this thread isn't as encouraging. But it also really could be a movie that won't sell tickets until very close to release.

Kids/teenagers buying Downton Abbey tickets, then sneaking in to see Joker instead.

Still a lot of work; gif response stands.

You really want all that work for yourself huh?

Yes, I know. But I don't recall if linking to a piece that has spoilers on it is verbotten. Hence the proviso about checking in with Staff when one is unsure about rules.

When you post a Tweet, after it auto-embeds, there is a link at the bottom that says "Display as link instead". Clicking on that will switch it to a link. You can also link to tweets by slapping mobile.twitter.com on the front of the URL. === One warning I think the forum software will sometimes auto-embed a linked tweet when quoted. At least I think I've seen that. So to be on the safe side, going the mobile.twitter.com route usually works. (also saying there's a spoiler at the link might be good) ((Not that any of this constitutes official advice just commenting on how to display tweets as links and nothing more; check in with Staff if you're unsure about rules and whatnot))

Maybe they want to follow the trail blazed by Charlie's Angels.

1... You actually sleep? News to me. 2... Not my problem. (Though, does mean they should be on sale Real Soon Now everywhere)

Times like this I miss Pulse, BTW. Let us know when theaters were being naughty and selling things when they shouldn't. Only found out about it now as I was skipping ahead to see if showtimes for, shall we say, Certain Movies had been uploaded onto the schedule yet.

You're welcome. === Just checked Regal's site, and it's billed as Early Access. So it's not tied to Fandango. Just checked Cinemark's site annnnnd... Knives Out showtimes are listed but not available for sale. So what I figure happened is that someone uploaded the schedule to Atom but forgot to set the Do Not Sell Flag. Oops. Anyway, official launch will probably be after the weekend.

I was more letting you know coz I vaguely recall you being interested in the film. Still point taken.

Okay, nothing on the 28th or the weekend of the 29th. Must be an early Fandango preview on the 22nd??? *checks Atom* Okay, this is weird. It has Century Doco having preview showings on Tue Nov 26th (7pm/9:55pm) then going wide on Wed Nov 27th. EDIT::: double checks: Okay, Wed is when it goes live according to BOM so that makes sense. Those showings for Cen Doco ARE NOT on Fandango. Weird. More investigation forthcoming.

Ummm.. Did we know that Knives Out tickets are on sale?!?!? @captainwondyful @Eric! @TalismanRing === Seems to be an early preview on Fri Nov 22nd??? 7pm, one showing at a couple of Regals. Investigating...

WITHOUT BoP TRAILER, JOKER HAS NO PUNCHLINE (if you look closely, you can see Harley Quinn taking off with the trailer in the background. That scamp )

Frankly, I'm surprised you didn't tag him. Glad to see DAR picking up the slack here. 👍

Oh, I think Denver is pretty self-explanatory and doesn't need to be dwelt on too much (plus having one of the bigger theaters in town not carry it). Sacramento is a little more complicated. We had a mass shooting, but that was way back in the early 90s, so that didn't have anything to do with it at all. Pretty much out of sight, out of mind for most Sacramentans, I think. I do actually have some thoughts on why it under-performed in Sacramento (at least as of 4pm yesterday), but... I think I'll leave them as unsaid for the most part lest I start up that conversation. I'll just say that I think it was a combination of Sacramento's demographics AND not having enough of a population base to make up for folks who weren't all that interested in it that caused a possible under-performance. At least in large cities like Philly, and LA/NY you have the sheer numbers to make up for things. I'd been noting decent urban/suburban spilt locally ever since it started selling tickets and the idea of this playing better in larger cities seems to track relatively well with the sale patterns here. I haven't gone back and checked the final numbers to see if that held true at the end, but I do think the relative underperformance in some of the theaters in the suburbs might have been the largest contributing factor. It also could be that there was more comparatively late night crowds (9pm+) than other local movies, though why that didn't track against other adult-leaning movies I couldn't say. No, in the end, I think it just under-performed locally, at least relative to other recent movies, and trying to figure out why is a case of the blind men and the elephant. Just one of those things, really.