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I am willing to bet that you will find more people than me that thought TLJ was an atrocious film. In matter of fact, a huge chunk of Star Wars fans and casual moviegoers thought it was really poor.

Naive and/or dishonest people try to explain the recent travails of the Star Wars franchise in terms of "new/original" vs "old-school/nostalgia" No, the reason why The Last Jedi has left most Star Wars fans bitterly disappointed it's because it completely and utterly fails cinematically. Just because something is allegedly "new" or "subverts expectations" doesn't mean it's any good. The fact that so many people keep pretending that they are unaware of this is quite astonishing.

To be honest, that's what I expected (hoped) from AIW in China. That movie just kicks so much butt to not make what several Chinese movies have already made or not to comfortably overtake those FF abominations.

Remarkable isn't it? Even AOTC, a film rightly derided and ridiculed by just about everyone managed a more than respectable (for Star Wars epic standards) of $302M in 2002 which translates into $421M in today's money. Solo isn't doing half that amount.

Don't take it from me, just ask Disney's bean-counters at the moment. Solo's annihilation at the DOM and OS box-office has more to do with the TLJ fallout than Solo's inherent qualities.

Not nearly as bad as TLJ.

Very optimistic. Solo is opening below $100M for the 4-day weekend.

I think that AIW will leg it out from here on as the one-two punch of DP2 & Solow has already happened. Much repeat business will go to AIW since it's far & away the best of the 3.

It's post-TLJ reality.

The Lost World: Jurassic Park from eons ago, had a $24.4M Saturday. Just sayin'

Disney should time-travel a couple of years, fire Rian Johnson and make TLJ at least passable.

Box-office was a different beast back in the late 70s. Moreover, Empire did not fall as much as TLJ did. The original Star Wars film had multiple releases something that TESB did not since the VCR came into play by the early 80s.

You are trying desperately to sugarcoat a disaster. I think that TFA & RO succeeded because they were good movies. The Last Jedi did in fact ride the goodwill left over by the previous two films as its gigantic OW clearly indicates. Then, once people realized the degree of The Last Jedi's suckness, things started going downhill. First with TLJ's bad legs and now with Solo's appalling OW and certain failure.

The Empire Strikes Back made $209.4M in 1980, that translates into $638M in today's money, which is slightly more than what The Last Jedi did. More importantly, the North American population in 1980 was 115M smaller than it is today, a full one/third smaller.

According to your theory, The Last Jedi is an awesome film, and it is "just" the GA & the "noisiest fans" that are at fault. Can you not consider the possibility that at least some of the criticisms hurled at TLJ are legit? That Rey has no arc, that Luke's character was destroyed and perverted to fit some post-modern nihilistic agenda, that Kylo Ren is not much more than a whiny brat instead of a super-villain, that Superman-Leia was an atrocity, that the Admiral with purple hair was more US politics than Star Wars, that the subplot involving Finn and Rose was needless and prequel-esque, that Star Wars should not be slapstick, that there were excessive attempts at humor none of which landed etc etc etc etc...

Why is Solo failing so badly? 3 words: The. Last. Jedi.

Exactly. If the quality is there, the audience will buy the tickets. Disney needs to radically reconsider their Star Wars modus operandi.

If by "new stories" you mean the abomination that was TLJ, then yes, I agree.

To be fair, after the mind-blowing masterpiece that is AIW, everything else is condemned to pale badly by comparison. BTW, I loved DP2, but I also understand why the GA doesn't love it as much as the first one. The first one was 50% SH movie and 50% parody, whereas the sequel is basically 90% parody. Something that I enjoyed, but the GA was looking for something a bit more conventional. As for Solo, I am not expecting to hate it all (only gonna watch it after I have watched AIW for the 4th time) but the immense damage inflicted by the uber-clusterf*ck that was TLJ is pulling it down into oblivion...

Is JW2 going to open in OS markets next week? Has Hollywood gone completely retarded? 4 mega movies within the space of 5-6 weeks? As for Solo, it's not just about turning profit or not. This is a Star Wars movie we are talking about, anything below mega-blockbuster level is a failure.

Well, more proof that nothing can be worse than TLJ.

I'm almost certain that Solo will get badly beaten by Ant-Man 2 in terms of WW BO.

Is that the consensus in Russia/Ukraine? Or is it the consensus among SW fans in general? Because I thought that TFA & R1 were pretty good, especially the latter. TLJ was atrocious though.

In a massively inflating local currency.

DP3 by 2020?