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  1. I edited my post with a better comparison: AEG is at 4,985M, so it did around ~46k in 7 days compared to 56k the 7 days before, a drop of just 18%. But I think the 4-day didn't drop as well as that suggests (still better than -50%) because the midweek seems to have been strong (Aladdin for example had ~145k midweek and 140k WE).
  2. Monday numbers are up quite a bit. And while it isn't a good WE (2nd worst of the year probably despite some holidays in the south) it's much better than feared first. Aladdin 140k (-27%) 1,255M MIB:I 122,5k JW3 70k (-44%) 930k DP 60k (-52%/-55%) Rocketman 60k (-29%) AEG is at 4,985M, so it did around ~46k in 7 days compared to 56k the 7 days before, a drop of just 18%.
  3. There's no mention of AEG, but the way it has dropped yet and the way the other movies drop this WE I would say no. But in the reports it was rather strong... So I think you have to wait for numbers after the WE.
  4. If Aladdin has gotten around 15k overall, the drop would be rather harsh and probably mean that MIBI wins the weekend if MIBI comes in lower and Aladdin comes in higher (and had good midday shows) it might still have a shot at #1 though I'd say that right now is really slim. So right now I'd say MIBI is heading for a 125k + 15k ≈ 140k and Aladdin is headed for a 105k. Aladdin had 15k evening only last week and 25k whole day. So 13k would be pretty good, a drop below 20k again. Hopefully the actuals will confirm...
  5. Neither CineDirector nor JPBoxoffice have updatet their number to 6,695M... 😕 However, in that case AEG should become first today.
  6. It should be at $58,7M. It could get around $1M more and be very close to $60M or even pass it.
  7. 05.06. - 09.06. 1 498.000 --- 498.000 1 Dark Phoenix 2 331.000 -35 1.463.682 3 Aladdin 3 259.737 --- 259.737 1 Parasite 4 133.000 -55 475.574 2 Godzilla 2 5 116.383 --- 116.383 1 Ma 6 112.687 -30 305.464 2 Venise n‘est pas en Italie 7 85.000 -50 1.533.014 5 Detective Pikachu 8 65.400 -41 646.142 4 Dolor y gloria 9 58.400 -39 2.667.412 6 Little white lies 2 10 55.000 -53 6.683.415 7 A:EG After all there was a clear winner this WE as there were some major changes from CineDirectors predictions. DP won the WE and was just 36% below Apocalypse. OD OW OWeek Total Apocalypse 163k 782k (ODxOW: x4,8) 903k 2,16M Dark Phoenix 88k 498k (ODxOW: x5,66) 620k 1,5M With a multipler like Apocalypse it wouldn't be able to reach 1,5M. Maybe it can have a better multipler to reach 1,5M+. Aladdin dropped harder than predicted. WE and Total are still bigger than Dumbo though. WE Dumbo Aladdin 1st 470k --- 470k 471k --- 471k 2nd 403k -14% 954k 513k +9% 1,08M 3rd 320k -21% 1,4M 331k -35% 1,46M So it's still on course to pass it to become the fourth biggest. OD OW OWeek Total Multipler Alice 0,252 1,418 1,600 4,537 x3,20 2010 TJB 0,278 1,090 1,303 3,720 x3,41 2016 BATB 0,269 1,143 1,282 3,568 x3,12 2017 Aladdin 0,078 0,471 0,563 2,500 x5,30 2019 Dumbo 0,085 0,470 0,551 2,300 x4,89 2019 Maleficent 0,086 0,548 0,628 2,047 x3,74 2014 Cinderella 0,086 0,573 0,636 1,722 x3,01 2015 OZ 0,124 0,633 0,788 1,590 x2,51 2013 MPR 0,044 0,293 0,390 1,535 x5,24 2018 Nutcracker 0,049 0,229 0,255 0,802 x3,50 2018 It should become the release with the biggest multipler too even though MPR opened before christmas which heavily inflated the multipler. It could get to 2,5M. Below that korean Parasite was the big winner that was helped by its win in Cannes. I have no clue how that one will hold, could get to 750k and 1,5M... But I think 1M+ should happen. Godzilla 2 dropped hard (but not as big as feared). I should get anywhere around 800k, not great but at least close to 60% of G14. In other news AEG became the biggest movie of the year in France. It should still land around 6,8M. Top10 2019: 1 6.683.415 Avengers: Endgame 2 6.668.597 Serial (Bad) Wedding 2 3 3.367.445 HTTYD3 4 3.304.925 Captain Marvel 5 2.667.412 Little white lies 2 6 2.323.402 Ralph 2 7 2.287.346 Dumbo 8 2.048.100 Green Book 9 2.033.168 Alita 10 1.849.004 The Mule http://www.insidekino.de/BO/F2019.htm http://www.cine-directors.net/boxoff.htm
  8. With the new estimate two openers were revised down but Parasite increased! 1 Dark phoenix 510 000 New 0,510 2 Aladdin 510 000 - 10 % 1,645 3 Parasite 280 000 New 0,280 4 Godzilla II, roi des monstres 240 000 - 30 % 0,583 5 Ma 130 000 New 0,130 http://www.cine-directors.net/boxbis.htm That is much worse for DP now... Apocalypse: 2,907 (--> OD 163k / OW 782k / OWeek 903k / Total 2,16M) DP 2,302 (--> playing like XM:A OD~130k / OW ~625k / OWeek ~721k / Total ~1,7M) Playing like Apocalypse from now on: DP: OD 88k (-46% from XM:A) / OW ~420k / OWeek ~485k / Total ~1,16M Maybe it cann be closer to their estimate. It could actually debut second... As for Aladdin, this would be a great result... WE Dumbo Aladdin 1st 470k --- 470k 471k --- 471k 2nd 403k -14% 954k 513k +9% 1,08M 3rd 320k -21% 1,4M 460k -10% 1,6M
  9. With Dumbo legs from next WE on (if CineDirectors is correct) Aladdin would reach around 2,8M. So yeah, 2,5M is probably too pessimistic. 3M is still optimistic considering Dumbo had pretty good legs too. Though, since Aladdin so far has even better legs it's totally possible and more probably than just 2,5M.
  10. First number for DP is Paris: 2,3k. That should be the lowest for the whole X-Men Series. Apocalypse had 2,9k... Apocalypse: 2,907 (--> OD 163k / OW 782k / OWeek 903k / Total 2,16M) DP 2,302 (--> playing like XM:A OD~130k / OW ~625k / OWeek ~721k / Total ~1,7M) The 2,3k is only the second biggest for the day behind Korean movie Parasite (3,5k Paris/4,55k P&P), though that one will probably be stronger in Paris than in whole France. http://www.jpbox-office.com/seancelistf.php?date=2019-06-05 CineDirectors Prediction for the OWeek: 1 Dark phoenix 700 000 New 0,700 2 Aladdin 510 000 - 10 % 1,645 3 Parasite 250 000 New 0,250 4 Godzilla II, roi des monstres 240 000 - 30 % 0,583 5 Ma 200 000 New 0,200 6 Rocketman 195 000 - 30 % 0,472 7 Pokémon : Détective Pikachu 165 000 - 10 % 1,613 8 John Wick parabellum 125 000 - 35 % 0,657 9 Venise n'est pas en Italie 125 000 - 35 % 0,318 10 Avengers - Endgame 105 000 - 20 % 6,733 The DP number would be 22% down from XM:A. Parasite on the other hand seems to do great! Aladdin maybe with a great drop, that would make 2,5M the goal to be reached. All those drops would actually be great, though those are still just predictions and CineDirectors often is a bit optimistic... http://www.cine-directors.net/boxbis.htm
  11. I would say it could do 1,5M. Maybe more, if it continues to hold as great.
  12. 29.05. – 02.06. 1 512.565 +9 1.075.808 2 Aladdin 2 298.870 --- 298.870 1 Godzilla 2 3 232.630 --- 232.630 1 Rocketman 4 169.977 +10 1.435.449 4 Detective Pikachu 5 166.604 -41 503.203 2 John Wick 3 6 160.323 --- 160.323 1 Venise n'est pas en Italie 7 117.559 -8 6.613.714 6 A:EG 8 111.659 -29 554.809 3 Dolor y Gloria 9 95.578 -29 2.585.348 5 Little White Lies 2 10 75.871 -10 200.567 2 Sibyl I don’t know why there were some numbers missing on InsideKino, but JPBoxOffice had all… Aladdin held the first position with a great hold! It’s only the second of the Disney LA Fairytales after MPR (2nd WE being Christmas holiday) to increase! The biggest 2nd WE: 1 Alice 1,113M -30% 2,712M 2 Jungle Book 710k -35% 2,013M 3 BATB 584k -49% 1,866M 4 Aladdin 513k +9% 1,076M 5 MPR 452k +54% 841k 6 Dumbo 403k -14% 954k 7 Oz 307k -51% 1,095M 8 Cinderella 294k -49% 930k 9 Maleficent 240k -56% 868k 10 Nutcracker 145k -37% 400k Its OW was just 453 admissions bigger than Dumbo, now it’s ahead 120k. OD OW OWeek Total Multipler Alice 0,252 1,418 1,600 4,537 x3,20 2010 TJB 0,278 1,090 1,303 3,720 x3,41 2016 BATB 0,269 1,143 1,282 3,568 x3,12 2017 Dumbo 0,085 0,470 0,551 2,300 x4,89 2019 Aladdin 0,078 0,471 0,563 2,250 x4,78 2019 Maleficent 0,086 0,548 0,628 2,047 x3,74 2014 Cinderella 0,086 0,573 0,636 1,722 x3,01 2015 OZ 0,124 0,633 0,788 1,590 x2,51 2013 MP 0,044 0,293 0,390 1,535 x5,24 2018 Nutcracker 0,049 0,229 0,255 0,802 x3,50 2018 (Numbers in Mio) 2M is a safe bet now, Dumbo (2,29M) may be reached… It should get to at least 2,25M. Those movies are doing great in France, maybe a good sign for TLK? Godzilla2 opened very close to the 300k I predicted. However, it’s still down 52% from G14 and 45% from Kong. OD ODxOW OW Midweek OWeek Total Multipler Kong 0,078 6,99 0,545 0,081 0,626 1,613 2,96 2017 Godzilla14 0,152 4,11 0,624 0,097 0,721 1,362 2,18 2014 Godzilla2 0,062 4,82 0,299 0,051 0,350 0,700 2,34 2019 (Numbers in Mio) Maybe the multipler can be between both to get to 700k… Rocketman, it seems, isn’t comparable to Bohemian Rhapsody which opened to 937k (the Elton opened 75% below…). The only other comp I can imagine is A Star is born. That one opened with 283k, so Rocketman is still below… It isn’t an impressive OW but maybe it can develop impressive legs? ASIB had a multipler of x7,02 and BR x4,66 which would result in 1,64M on the high end and 1,09M on the low. It’s first goal will be to get to 1M though. DP had the biggest increase in the Top10. It should reach 1,7M+. JW3 had the worst hold in the Top10, it already passed both of its predecessors though. OD OW OWeek Total Multipler John Wick 1 0,034 0,154 0,185 0,401 2,60 2014 John Wick 2 0,032 0,167 0,202 0,335 2,01 2017 John Wick 3 0,069 0,282 0,337 0,750 2,66 2019 (Numbers in Mio) It should get around 750k+. A:EG had a great hold this WE and its chances to become the biggest movie of the year, passing Serial (Bad) Weddings 2, went from maybe to locked. It’s just missing 55k now. Maybe it can get close to 6,8M. Top10 2019: 1 6.668.597 Serial (Bad) Weddings 2 2 6.613.714 Avengers - Endgame 3 3.367.445 HTTYD3 4 3.304.925 Captain Marvel 5 2.489.770 Little White Lies 6 2.323.402 Ralph 2 7 2.287.346 Dumbo 8 2.048.100 Green Bokk 9 2.033.168 Alita 10 1.849.004 The Mule http://www.insidekino.de/BO/F2019.htm http://jpbox-office.com/classfr.php?idsem=2579 http://www.cine-directors.net/boxoff.htm
  13. Monday Numbers: Aladdin 290k (+0%/-7%) 725k cume, we're back to the beginning John Wick 3 180k (-37%/-45%) 635k Godzilla 2 160k (down 58% from Godzilla14, 383k i.P.) Pikachu 120k (-15%) 1,135M Rocketman 140k AEG 80k (-25%) 4,885M Ma 50k A great result for the hot weather, what would have been possible for Aladdin if weather would have been worse?... The WE is up 23% again from the WE one year ago.
  14. Godzilla2 OD is 62k, Kong had 78k and Godzilla14 152k... Awful OD. It may get around 300k for the WE which would be down 52% from G14 and 45% from Kong.
  15. 1st Trend: Aladdin 290k (+0%/-7%) 720k cume, this would be awesome! John Wick 3 175k (-39%/-47%) 630k Rocketman 165k Godzilla 2 160k Pikachu 100k (-29%) 1,115M I hope those numbers can hold since weather is predicted to be very sunny and hot...
  16. es, it is the best Disney Movie ever I remember you having Snow White too before Alita
  17. 22.05. - 26.05. 1 470.802 --- 470.802 1 Aladdin 2 281.936 --- 281.936 1 John Wick 3 3 156.625 -8 394.396 2 Dolor y Gloria 4 154.607 -52 1.243.349 3 Detective Pikachu 5 135.314 -52 2.443.168 4 Little White Lies 2 6 128.199 -57 6.468.338 5 A:EG 7 84.296 --- 84.296 1 Sibyl 8 60.975 -47 457.163 3 Les Crevettes pailletees 9 60.766 --- 60.766 1 Les Plus belles annees d'une vie 10 56.782 -65 243.588 2 The Dead Don't Die Aladdin opens basically to the same as Dumbo after its OD being a little smaller (78k vs 85k). Maybe a good sign for legs? OD ODxOW OW Midweek OWeek Total Multipler Alice 0,252 5,63 1,418 0,182 1,600 4,537 x3,20 2010 TJB 0,278 3,92 1,090 0,213 1,303 3,720 x3,41 2016 BATB 0,269 4,25 1,143 0,139 1,282 3,568 x3,12 2017 Dumbo 0,085 5,53 0,470 0,081 0,551 2,300 x4,89 2019 Maleficent 0,086 6,37 0,548 0,080 0,628 2,047 x3,74 2014 Aladdin 0,078 6,04 0,471 0,069 0,540 1,750 x3,72 2019 Cinderella 0,086 6,66 0,573 0,063 0,636 1,722 x3,01 2015 OZ 0,124 5,10 0,633 0,155 0,788 1,590 x2,51 2013 MP 0,044 6,66 0,293 0,097 0,390 1,535 x5,24 2018 Nutcracker 0,049 4,67 0,229 0,026 0,255 0,802 x3,50 2018 (all numbers in Mio) I would say that, despite the rather low OW, it has a chance to get to 2M as it seems to enjoy good WOM in many countries. However, 1,75M should happen. JW3 had a huge increase from the former two parts (JW1 154k/401k total, JW2 167k/335k) and could pass the 2nd one within its first week. But both will surely be passed next WE. A multipler between JW1&2 would get it to 650k. DP had another not great drop... It should get anywhere close to 1,5M. AEG should still pass the french SBW2 to become the biggest movie of the year if it can hold a bit better soon, it's still not safe to say though. Still, it's the biggest SH movie ever so no need to complain. OW Total Multipler 1 AEG 2,85 6,70 2,35 2019 2 SM1 1,67 6,48 3,88 2002 3 SM3* 2,78 6,34 1,99 2007 4 SM2 1,72 5,34 3,10 2004 5 AIW 1,84 5,14 2,79 2018 6 Av1 1,44 4,51 3,13 2012 7 TDKR 1,46 4,41 3,02 2012 8 IM3 1,63 4,39 2,69 2013 9 AOU 1,56 4,33 2,78 2015 10 Deadpool 1,28 3,76 2,94 2016 11 BP 0,85 3,69 4,34 2018 12 Unbreakable 1,08 3,45 3,19 2000 13 CM 1,13 3,35 2,96 2019 14 XM: DOFP 1,02 3,29 3,23 2014 15 Aquaman 0,77 3,27 4,25 2018 *SM3 opened to 3,58M including OD Wednesday. For multipler I substracted the OD from the total. Yearly Top10: 1 6.668.597 Serial (Bad) Wedding 2 2 6.468.338 Avengers - Endgame 3 3.367.445 HTTYD3 4 3.304.712 Captain Marvel 5 2.323.402 Ralph 2 6 2.307.854 Little White Lies 7 2.279.346 Dumbo 8 2.042.871 Green Book 9 2.033.168 Alita 10 1.849.004 The Mule http://www.insidekino.de/BO/F2019.htm http://www.cine-directors.net/boxoff.htm http://www.jpbox-office.com/ I tried some new formatting, I don't know if I'll stay with it. Some might be a bit exaggerated
  18. Well, at least German BO is not in free fall... I try to be happy about every silver lining. Much more isn't possible with German BO 😕
  19. The good thing is that last years WE was even worse, we're up from last year around 6% I think and that gap should further grow
  20. AEG: Biggest movie adjusting XR for Titanic, Avatar and AEG. That's safe. Probably bigger than Avatar in admissions, too. Avatar was huge in developed markets with high TP, so that's totally possible. But the biggest of all time needs some perspective, cause it's not the biggest adjusted for inflation and market growth, we now all agreed that Titanic was bigger. And as for Avatar there is much opinion and much less facts wether it would be bigger adjusted for inflation and market growth and we'll probably never have enough facts for that cause there is much what if in those scenarios So: if you mean it's the biggest ever adjusted for XR only, you're right and probably everyone has to accept this. Everything further (especially some talk about AEG is more impressive than Avatar or vice versa) is just opinion (you could argue that if you adjust for XR and nothing else it's arbitrariness) and probably doesn't lead anywhere. Maybe it should be part of its own thread... So please make clearer what you really mean and don't induce much more "discussions" by staying diffuse...
  21. Well, you know you can't write something like this and then be mad if those who like Avatar (or dislike Endgame) or just want to have this right answer you? This is a very debatable statement (as those many pages show) and if you don't want this thread to become a Avatar vs Endgame discussion thread you just shoudn't write such things...
  22. Ah OK, no it was just a TV thing... Thanks I have a few suggestions too: Lust, Caution (Desplat) Nocturnal Animals (Korzeniowski): Hard to decide wether to take Wayward Sisters or Table For Two here. Both are so beautiful! Cloud Atlas (Tywker, Klimek, Heil) Snow White (Smith, Harline) A Cure for Wellness (Wallfisch) Intouchables (Einaudi) Umbrellas of Cherbourg (Legrand)
  23. Is "Walking with Dinosaurs" (the one from 1999 of course!) allowed too? That one had great music, but does it count as "film score" since it's a documentary/mini-series? Edit: I know now that it can't qualify, the music is still great though
  24. Paris / Paris&periphery JW3 1.779/3.877 JW2 978/1.982 JW1 875/1.759 Cinderella 2.202/6.837 Dumbo 2.056/7.662 Maleficent 1.994/5.310 TJB 1.783/7.463 Aladdin 1.657/6.601 http://www.jpbox-office.com/seancelistf.php?date=2019-05-22
  25. I think it was a Sunday event (which would make the PTA even crazier). I'm not totally sure though... I never really thought TLK would be huge here, though I'd love to be surprised like AEG did. But you really think AEG could be bigger than SW9? (I don't really like the acronym ROTS, to me that's SW3) AEG is on course for around 5M, SW8 had 5,9M so the 9th had to decrease another 15%! That seems highly unlikely to me...
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