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14.08. - 18.08. 1 882.407 --- 882.407 1 Once Upon a Time in Hollywood 2 512.043 -27 8.444.707 5 The Lion King 3 476.865 -47 1.608.006 2 Hobbs & Shaw 4 264.857 -33 1.527.491 3 Pets 2 5 232.363 -26 657.741 2 C'est quoi cette mamie?! 6 182.098 --- 182.098 1 Dora 7 83.064 -25 4.253.099 8 Toy Story 4 8 69.330 -48 246.277 2 Playmobil 9 67.152 -32 3.111.532 7 SM:FFH 10 45.448 --- 45.448 1 Perdrix OUATIH had the 2nd highest OW for Tarantino behind Django (929k). With a multipler like Inglourious Basterds (x4,1) it'll get to close to 3,6M; a multipler like Django and it reaches 4M+. So it should aim 3,5M to become Tarantinos 2nd biggest movie behind Django Unchained (4,3M). TLK is 2nd again and is the first movie since SW7 in 2015 to get past 8M. WE TLK SW7 1st 2,559M --- 2,559M 2,705M --- 2,705M 2nd 1,835M -28% 5,088M 1,966M -27% 5,767M 3rd 950k -48% 6,593M 1,542M -22% 8,345M 4th 704k -26% 7,657M 627k -59% 9,140M 5th 512k -27% 8,444M 382k -39% 9,611M 6th 245k -36% 9,927M 7th 164k -33% 10,128M 10,000M 10,508M TLK gains ground against SW7. After being behind 1,75M in its 3rd WE (due to christmas holidays) it is 1,17M now. 10M still isn't safe. Next weeks drop may determine it. Hobbs&Shaw will try to pass Fast5 (2,52M) to become the 5th biggest of the series. Even though Pets2 held better than its predecessor the gap widened to 570k. It'll get to more than 2,5M; not too bad compared to other countries. WE Pets1 Pets2 1st 821k --- 821k 516k --- 516k 2nd 524k -36% 1,617M 395k -24% 1,106M 3rd 295k -44% 2,096M 265k -33% 1,527M 4th 341k +16% 2,532M 5th 224k -34% 2,837M 6th 133k -41% 3,081M 7th 79k -41% 3,167M 3,746M 2,500M TS4 is really coming close to TS3 (4,36M) and should pass it soon. It may fail to reach TS2 (4,53M) though. Still, close to 4,5M is a great result. SM:FFH is still trying to reach GOTG2 (3,23M) and could still get there to reach around 3,25M which would be the 8th biggest MCU movie and the 3rd biggest MCU solo behind BP (3,69M) and CM (3,37M). And it'd be up 40% from SM:H. Top10 2019: 1 8.444.707 The Lion King 2 6.819.244 Avengers: Endgame 3 6.707.004 Serial (Bad) Wedding 2 4 4.253.099 Toy Story 4 5 3.371.151 Captain Marvel 6 3.367.445 HTTYD3 7 3.111.532 Spider-Man: Far From Home 8 2.781.712 Little White Lies 2 9 2.431.607 Aladdin 10 2.384.555 Dumbo http://www.insidekino.com/BO/F2019.htm http://www.jpbox-office.com/index.php

I know about that, numbers are just western Germany for 50s to 80s. It was just to compare the 80s to today. I found some of the DDR numbers. Though sadly only some mentioned in articles and no full statistics... year / BRD / DDR / whole Germany 1988 / 108,9M / ~70M / ~178,9M 1989 / 101,2M / 65M / 166,2M So if 120M in 1991 is the number for united Germany than it'd be quite a big drop that is probably mostly due to much lower numbers in the east (much higher TP in united Germany, depressed market...). Maybe the growing numbers in late 90s and early 00s are partly eastern German recovery? Though that would probably just be 10M more or something like that. But I think it's quite interesting that 2001 is around as big as 1988 accounting for whole Germany.

The thing is, in the 80s it's just the western German numbers and the 90s had some economical problems. Being that bad now while economy is quite good is even worse. (Btw. does anybody know since when it's the united German numbers? 1989 [101,2M], 1990 [102,5M], 1991 [120M], 1992 [105,9M] I would suspect that it's since 1991 but I really don't know... Finding numbers for the eastern Germany isn't easy)

On a serious note: Being good doesn't prevent a movie from being big in Germany (LOTR ). But it just doesn't really seem to help either... There's really much crap doing good numbers here (After one of only14 movies to have more than 1M admissions yet ). But I really wonder what sort of movie could make people want to watch it massively. Those are the biggest movies since 2010: Admissions Gross in € OWeek 1 9.160.438 64.048.325 Intouchables 442.390 2012 2 9.060.311 102.576.103 SW7 3.269.814 2015 3 7.825.760 65.883.386 Skyfall 2.644.828 2012 4 7.734.265 63.040.489 Fack Ju Göhte 2 2.718.948 2015 5 7.411.899 54.997.906 Fack Ju Göhte 1.197.246 2013 6 7.274.964 58.506.360 Honig im Kopf 1.030.699 2014 7 7.089.386 67.400.030 Spectre 2.459.198 2015 8 6.945.769 57.929.442 Minions 1.353.739 2015 9 6.700.208 52.041.305 Ice Age 4 1.497.726 2012 10 6.689.410 68.909.540 TH1 1.542.460 2012 11 6.499.514 58.571.390 HP7.2 2.341.762 2011 12 6.136.279 53.347.812 Fack Ju Göhte 3 2.895.338 2017 13 6.098.029 64.831.146 TH2 1.671.133 2013 14 6.066.455 64.914.921 TH3 1.676.036 2014 http://www.insidekino.de/DJahr/D2010-2019.htm *Italic ones are German Apart from it not being that many: 8 out of 14 are from 2012 and 2015 and since then there was just one in 2017 (I hope there's at least SW9 this year getting there). And 11 of them are sequels (or prequels), though that's probably a Trend everywhere... And to answer your post: At least half of those aren't that bad

I have great hope that IT2 may at least come close to 3M again... Other than that it's probably just F2 and SW9 to get there, as you say. TS4 would be just laughable if it wasn't that sad. This franchise has really no appeal to Germans. I wonder what they would have to do in order to make it appealing.

And this is why I'd say that Portugal is even more impressive: the french market can potentially do better. Still, it's just huge! It would be just the 25th to have more than 10M...

The last french movie to get to 10M+ was Serial (Bad) Weddings. 10M+ movies in the last ten years: 2009: Avatar 14,68M 2011: Intouchables 19,49M 2014: Serial (Bad) Weddings 2 12,37M 2015: SW7 10,51M 2019: TLK 10M+? http://www.jpbox-office.com/charts_france.php

CineDirectors prediction: Rang Titre Entrées Variation hebdo Cumul (Millions) Budget Nbre de salles 1 Once upon a time in... Hollywood 1 200 000 New 1,200 90 M$ 550 2 Le roi lion 735 000 - 25 % 8,668 - M$ 680 3 Fast & furious : Hobbs & Shaw 680 000 - 40 % 1,811 200 M$ 809 4 Comme des bêtes 2 440 000 - 20 % 1,651 80 M$ 767 5 Dora et la cité perdue 0 000 New 0,000 49 M$ 500 6 C'est quoi cette mamie ?! 275 000 - 35 % 0,700 6,4 M€ 425 7 Playmobil, le film 125 000 - 30 % 0,302 - M€ 604 8 Toy story 4 125 000 - 20 % 4,295 - M$ 680 9 Spider-man : Far from home 105 000 - 25 % 3,150 160 M$ 625 10 Je te promets d'être sage 0 000 New 0,000 2,7 M€ 169 Once upon... seems to have a great opening. If the prediction comes true this would be Tarantinos biggest above the OWeeks of Django Unchained (1,13M) and Inglourious Basterds (940k). http://www.cine-directors.net/boxbis.htm

Portugal again: 09.08. - 11.08. 1 95.295 -23 1.017.116 4 TLK 2 42.456 -32 146.488 2 Hobbs & Shaw 3 30.130 --- 30.130 1 Ibiza 4 15.465 +9 371.826 7 Toy Story 4 5 13.833 --- 13.833 1 Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark 6 10.566 +13 28.924 2 UglyDolls 7 9.281 -27 318.821 6 SM:FFH 8 4.887 --- 4.887 1 The Kitchen 9 4.038 -37 14.953 2 The Professor 10 3.345 -50 33.891 3 Tony TLK added 176k since last Sunday (down 27% from the 242k the week before). Top10 (since 2004): 1 1.207.749 Avatar 2 1.017.116 TLK 3 939.693 Minions 4 851.681 Mamma Mia! 5 832.800 Fast & Furious 7 6 824.646 Shrek 3 7 813.802 Madagascar 2 8 788.426 Fast & Furious 8 9 771.963 Shrek 2 10 761.113 Portugal, mon amour Passing Avatar seems probable now... http://www.insidekino.de/BO/P2019.htm

I would say "The original is 7th on the all time admission chart" - I hate english prepositions

Here's the Top10 from Switzerland and TLK isn't the most amazing 1 40.116 -1 378.504 4 TLK 2 38.237 -2 104.717 2 Hobbs & Shaw 3 12.850 +7 153.283 9 Pets 2 4 7.366 +119 562.136 41 Bohemian Rhapsody 5 5.686 +18 34.532 8 Parasite 6 3.881 -18 149.136 6 SM:FFH 7 3.494 -21 64.495 6 Yesterday 8 3.429 + 22.303 8 Long Shot 9 2.938 +24 17.842 3 Die drei !!! 10 2.043 + 102.191 51 BlacKkKlansman Yearly Top10: 1 490.814 Avengers: Endgame 2 378.504 TLK 3 344.168 Green Book 4 260.651 Serial (Bad) Wedding 2 5 240.660 Zwingli 6 223.756 HTTYD3 7 196.156 Captain Marvel 8 193.167 Aladdin 9 149.136 Spider-Man - Far From Home 10 141.630 Detective Pikachu http://www.insidekino.de/BO/CH2019.htm

I realized that TLK in Germany finally passed the french OWeek after 3 weeks in release (3,44M vs. 3,25M). So around 21 days equal 7... The german result is disappointing, though just in context of the european overperformance. Just seeing Germany it's doing great actually as it already became the biggest of the remakes after a 900k+ week (I thought it'd do just 4M). I hope it has enough left to pass AEG at least to come close to €49M/$55M, which would at least in € be close to TLK94 (€55,68M).

It's crazy to think about it, but 10M is really looking good. France is one of the craziest countries for that movie... So Thursday is a holiday apparantly. TLK should have a good hold and should be around 8,4M already - it could approach 8,5M+. So it'll get to $75M to $80M. Just crazy high...

Another country per InsideKino: In Portugal TLK became the 4th biggest movie (since 2004, which is the first year IK has numbers for) in admissions and 3rd biggest in €. 1 123.795 -41 840.863 3 TLK 2 62.483 --- 64.696 1 Hobbs & Shaw 3 14.149 -42 344.532 6 Toy Story 4 4 12.630 -43 300.181 1 SM:FFH 5 9.366 --- 9.366 1 UglyDolls 6 6.675 -46 25.720 2 Tony 7 6.415 --- 6.415 1 The Professor 8 4.205 -40 25.364 3 Anna 9 3.750 -28 157.849 6 Annabelle 3 10 2.320 -50 18.489 3 Child's Play Top10 in admissions: 1 1.207.749 Avatar 2 939.693 Minions 3 851.681 Mamma Mia! 4 840.863 Der König der Löwen 5 832.800 Fast & Furious 7 6 824.646 Shrek der Dritte 7 813.802 Madagascar 2 8 788.426 Fast & Furious 8 9 771.963 Shrek 2 10 761.113 Portugal, mon amour Top10 in €: 1 6.928.284 Avatar 2 4.732.266 Minions 3 4.669.370 Der König der Löwen 4 4.610.748 Für immer Shrek 5 4.423.888 Fast & Furious 7 6 4.306.443 Fast & Furious 8 7 3.891.111 Portugal, mon amour 8 3.868.151 Avengers 4 9 3.769.843 Ice Age 3 10 3.764.144 Mamma Mia! It'll become 2nd in both lists. http://www.insidekino.com/BO/P2019.htm

TLK is still killing in the Netherlands (numbers in €) 25.07. - 28.07. 1 3.416.745 -27 11.234.420 2 TLK 2 318.031 -35 5.464.208 4 SM:FFH 3 267.470 +6 2.748.236 5 Toy Story 4 4 260.737 +38 3.786.839 8 Pets 2 5 161.808 -19 8.845.171 10 Aladdin 6 129.526 -27 1.802.566 5 Yesterday 7 109.349 --- 121.702 1 Midsommar 8 59.565 -27 1.344.878 5 Annabelle 3 9 44.066 -46 422.456 3 Stuber 10 42.783 -41 413.453 3 Crawl 01.08. - 04.08. 1 2.782.836 -19 16.009.037 3 TLK 2 1.442.873 --- 1.852.095 1 Hobbs & Shaw 3 220.244 -16 4.167.683 9 Pets 2 4 212.238 -33 5.864.533 5 SM:FFH 5 184.870 -31 3.086.396 6 Toy Story 4 6 138.502 -14 9.090.700 11 Aladdin 7 115.755 -11 1.996.815 6 Yesterday 8 82.492 -25 262.437 2 Midsommar 9 75.137 --- 240.157 1 Juf Roos 10 53.968 --- 78.393 1 Richard Says Goodbye TLK 2nd WE would still have been the 3rd biggest OW and its 3rd the 5th. Though it is usual in the Netherlands to have great drops this is mind-boggling! It already ranks 7th alltime: 1 25.619.673 Titanic 2 21.904.667 Bohemian Rhapsody 3 20.520.000 Spectre 4 18.953.000 Avatar 5 18.854.000 Skyfall 6 16.927.000 Gooische Vrouwen 2 7 16.009.037 TLK (19) 8 15.683.000 LOTR3 9 15.357.977 Harry Potter 1 10 15.142.117 TLK (94) I don't know if it'll stop soon but TLK should at least become the 2nd biggest movie ever in € passing BR. http://www.insidekino.com/BO/NL2019.htm

31.07. - 04.08. 1 949.599 -48 6.593.090 3 The Lion King 2 516.201 --- 516.201 1 Pets 2 3 145.162 -43 2.849.835 5 SM:FFH 4 125.223 -61 3.953.994 6 Toy Story 4 5 91.273 -48 316.711 2 Crawl 6 70.625 -35 797.777 4 Annabelle 3 7 47.771 -43 277.038 3 The Hustle 8 47.622 -54 616.904 4 Anna 9 45.461 --- 45.461 1 Midsommar 10 40.496 --- 40.496 1 Mon frere TLK takes first place again and its 3rd WE would still have been the fifth biggest OW for the Disney remakes. With this drop it's still looking at around 8,5M admissions ($65M+). Pets2 opens 37% below its predecessor, which is quite good compared to other countries (but rather bad after its big OD). With a multipler like the first it'd get to 2,35M so it should aim for at least 2,25M. SM:FFH will still try to reach GOTG2 (3,22M) though 3,15M is a safer bet. TS4 had a big drop this WE and reaching TS2 (4,53) and TS3 (4,36) isn't certain anymore. It should get very close though anywhere at 4,25M+. Top10 2019: 1 6.818.081 Avengers: Endgame 2 6.703.714 Serial (Bad) Wedding 2 3 6.593.090 The Lion King 4 3.953.994 Toy Story 4 5 3.371.151 Captain Marvel 6 3.367.445 HTTYD3 7 2.849.835 Spider-Man: Far From Home 8 2.776.665 Little White Lies 2 9 2.412.607 Aladdin 10 2.384.545 Dumbo TLK will become the biggest movie of the year this WE. http://www.insidekino.com/BO/F2019.htm http://www.jpbox-office.com/classfr.php?idsem=2588

Nothing wrong with talking to yourself, just with no one talking to you 2nd Trend: TLK 550k (-13%) Close to 3,1M H&S 475k Leberkäsjunkie 190k Pets2 110k (-18%) Benjamin Blümchen 90k SM:FFH 70k (-36%) Yesterday 52,5k (-17%) Die Drei !!! 45k (-22%) Annabelle 3 30k (-14%) Dolor y gloria 25k (-17%/-29%)

Now I'd really like to know what you thought 😬 It seems the German Thread has many young people (and especially many students ) and Industrious and terrestrial. German BO is boring and we are so chatty As Taruseth said, 4M looks good and so does your range.

Prior to the release I thought this might be helpful - now it's probably not really WE TLK Alice* TJB BATB Aladdin Dumbo Maleficent 1st 2,559M --- 2,559M 1,418M --- 1,418M 1,090M --- 1,090M 1,143M --- 1,143M 471k --- 471k 470k --- 470k 548k --- 548k 2nd 1,835M -28% 5,088M 990k -30% 2,590M 710k -35% 2,013M 584k -49% 1,866M 513k +9% 1,076M 403k -14% 954k 240k -56% 868k 3rd 585k -41% 3,300M 431k -39% 2,588M 311k -47% 2,296M 331k -35% 1,464M 320k -21% 1,399M 153k -36% 1,112M 4th 390k -33% 3,750M 270k -37% 2,901M 281k -10% 2,712M 187k -44% 1,813M 184k -42% 1,719M 106k -31% 1,256M 5th 210k -46% 4,005M 187k -31% 3,117M 212k -25% 3,050M 104k -44% 1,945M 208k +13% 2,004M 181k +70% 1,470M 6th 140k -34% 4,170M 108k -42% 3,289M 127k -40% 3,221M 117k +12% 2,089M 116k -44% 2,157M 122k -32% 1,685M 7th 80k -42% 4,265M 79k -27% 3,380M 69k -45% 3,347M 77k -34% 2,231M 73k -37% 2,241M 88k -28% 1,823M 4,537M 3,720M 3,568M 2,500M 2,400M 2,047M Those are the remakes above 2M. For Alice I just knew weekly data but my should be at least *close*. At least it shows that TLK is huge...

24.07. - 28.07. 1 1.834.892 -28 5.087.788 2 The Lion King 2 317.359 +14 3.736.201 5 Toy Story 4 3 253.097 -10 2.624.771 4 SM:FFH 4 176.391 --- 176.391 1 Crawl 5 108.555 -27 687.316 3 Annabelle 3 6 104.551 -9 540.723 3 Anna 7 83.893 -6 204.271 2 Glam Girls 8 75.211 --- 75.211 1 The Operative 9 68.355 +14 284.079 3 Premiere de la classe 10 68.296 -1 507.811 4 Yesterday This WE is all about TLK again! It's 2nd WE would still be the 4th bigges OW of the year (18k behind Serial (Bad) Wedding 2), bigger than the OW of the biggest other Disney remake (AiW, 1,42M) and bigger than the lifetim of the four lowest remakes (above Cinderella, 1,72M). It's easily the biggest 2nd of the year passing A:EG (1,51M/4,86M cume) and the biggest since SW7 (1,97M/5,77M). The total is more than 5M already which is bigger than any of the remakes and (according to InsideKino) TLK is just the 6th movie to have more than 5M in 12 days (only the 2nd non french movie after SW7). OD OW OWeek Total Multipler TLK 0,630 2,559 3,253 8,500 x3,32 Alice 0,252 1,418 1,600 4,537 x3,20 TJB 0,278 1,090 1,303 3,720 x3,41 BATB 0,269 1,143 1,282 3,568 x3,12 Aladdin 0,078 0,471 0,563 2,500 x5,31 Dumbo 0,085 0,470 0,551 2,400 x5,11 Maleficent 0,086 0,548 0,628 2,047 x3,74 Cinderella 0,086 0,573 0,636 1,722 x3,01 OZ 0,124 0,633 0,788 1,590 x2,51 MP 0,044 0,293 0,390 1,535 x5,24 Nutcracker 0,049 0,229 0,255 0,802 x3,50 It didn't take long to get to the top of the list, now it'll try to be twice the 2nd. TLK should (at least) be close to 6,5M next WE. 8,5M+ ($65M) is safe and 9M ($70M) a good possibility. TS4 was a good 2nd increasing over last week. OD OW OWeek Total Multipler Toy Story 1 0,100 0,444 0,497 2,760 x6,22 Toy Story 2 0,145 0,747 0,927 4,530 x6,06 Toy Story 3 0,390 1,057 1,277 4,363 x4,13 Toy Story 4 0,306 1,100 1,506 4,600 x4,18 I think it'll become the biggest of the series at 4,6M+. In third position SM:FFH secured itself a 3M+ finish with a small drop. It'll be just the 9th MCU movie to get there and the 3rd of 2019 (behind A:EG 6,81M and CM 3,37M). It passed its predecessor SM:H (2,31M) last week. At the moment it's just slightly behind CM (192k/-38%/2,68M) and could pass Marvels first female SH-Solo. With a few more good drops it will get to 3,25M. Top10 2019: 1 6.813.581 Avengers: Endgame 2 6.703.714 Serial (Bad) Wedding 2 3 5.087.788 The Lion King 4 3.736.201 Toy Story 4 5 3.371.151 Captain Marvel 6 3.367.445 HTTYD3 7 2.770.703 Little White Lies 2 8 2.624.771 Spider-Man: Far From Home 9 2.392.407 Aladdin 10 2.384.509 Dumbo TLK will be first in its 4th WE at least. Aladdin passed Dumbo (again ) and still had 27k. After all it could get to 2,5M. http://www.insidekino.com/BO/F2019.htm http://www.jpbox-office.com/classfr.php?idsem=2587

I hope OUaTiH can do even a bit better than this. Not much more to expect from the rest of those probably...

This whole discussion is an issue for its own Thread (at least where it leads away from why movies about Nazis did well in Germany). But I want to add some things nonetheless... The following probably has nothing to do with BO so... Als Hitler das rosa Kaninchen stahl (When Hitler Stole Pink Rabbit) will probably be another sign of how movies about Nazis do in Germany when it comes out in Dezember.

SW9 is probably the only contender that could top it (SW7 10,31M, SW8 7,08M). But as things develop I start to think TLK becomes to big to be passed... 8,5M+ and $65M+ seem realistic.

There's a long story of me underestimating TLK Long story short: $40,1M which should mean around 5,2M+ admissions (ifI don't underestimate it again...). And -32%, what Deadline reports, would mean 1,74M 2nd WE and around 5M. Just huge...

From Mimorin it seems that it dropped a bit above 30% Sat and Sun; so probably around that for the WE too. If that comes true at last it'd have a better drop than the WE before. According to InsideKino it was -2%, -9%, -12%, -20%, -30%, -41% (and now probably around -32%).