Ms Lady Hawk
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I loved this! It reminded me of two
movies I really liked in Salt and Red Sparrow, but with a lot more action. It
will do very very well.
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3 hours ago, cdsacken said:
It's better in every facet other than no Let it Go.
I agree. My sister and I took the kids to see it. My son loved Olaf. My nieces both loved it more than the first. I think I did too.
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1 hour ago, Arendelle Legion said:
I agree with this last sentence, but I don’t think that should stop you comparing Ethan Hunt’s popularity to a role that gets recast more. Just means that when you do make the comparison, everybody should understand that you mean “Ethan Hunt as played by Tom Cruise in the Mission Impossible series” and not bother about the hypothetical popularity of a movie with “Ethan Hunt” in a new continuity starring somebody else. Some MCU characters you need to take more of a “averaging over different versions” approach, e.g. Spider-Man, Quicksilver, soon the X-men, because there are multiple recent versions. But most MCU characters are more of an Ethan Hunt, where there is only one version that really matters for public conception of the character and it doens’t make much contextual sense to try to separate some general version of the character from the dominant portrayal.
I understand what you’re saying but the poster Barnack and I responded to said that most movie goers are 19 or younger AND that Black Widow is more ICONIC than Wonder Woman. No one would diminish the MCU nor what Scarjo has done with the character but I think both claims merited scrutiny because they are not factual. With all that said, I expect Black Widow to blow up and do huge numbers. Black Panther blew up in a way Spider-Man never has. That does not make him more iconic than Spider Man. It just means that there was more hunger among the general public to see his movie.
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1 hour ago, JGAR4LIFE said:
People born after 2000 are mainly the general audience. They’re the ones going to the movie theaters, old timers are starting to back away.
Not saying Black Widow is a bigger iconic character than Wonder Woman, just that now in the 21st century, she has skyrocketed in popularity thanks to the Avengers and the MCU. And compared to Wonder Woman now, yes she’s arguably more popular.
You think most of the movie going audience is 19 and below? Bless your heart.
I don’t see little girls year after year dressing up as Black Widow for Halloween. However, Wonder Woman is perennially among the top outfits for girls. She is a common thread for mothers and daughters. I can remember wearing my WW outfit. Now, I see my nieces wearing the outfit.
Now, that is not to say that Black
Widow will not be a great movie and maybe the biggest of the summer. I would never under-estimate Marvel and its fanbase, marketing, etc. A successful movie does not make a character more iconic. If that were the case, then the Black Panther would be the greatest and most iconic super hero, as his movie is the highest grossing solo super-hero movie of all time.
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So what do you guys think? Will Joker hit 1B or will it be the first superhero/supervillian movie to gross in the 900m range?
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2 minutes ago, The Futurist said:
Doing 900m+ without China is a fantastic performance for the Joker.
Todd Phillips continue to show people how it s done.
Incompletely agree. Looks like even a bad performance in China would have taken it above 1B. Awesome performance by Joker.
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Since sequels have underperformed this year- outside of Endgame, I am tempering my expectations. I was starting from a DOM of 400 being the floor. Now, I am just keeping my fingers crossed that this explodes. DC is on a roll lately and frankly, with the performance of Joker and Aquamsn since WW, I hope people stop saying that DC films are front loaded. Maybe the days of front loadedness are over. Now, the movies seem to be appealing to more than just the core base.
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53 minutes ago, Movie nerd said:
Well Joker is R-rated, in theory it shouldn’t make difference.
So teachers and administrators can’t watch R rated movies?
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9 minutes ago, a2k said:
Woah! -32.3% for Joker. Columbus Day observance on 9th Oct this year.
So Thu drop will be bigger than anticipated.
No, Columbus Day is Monday, October 14th. Yesterday, many schools were closed in observance of the Jewish high holiday of Yom Kippur.
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46 minutes ago, HeadShot said:
It's the Joker - only one of the biggest villains of all time. Ofc it was going to open big. We need to see what legs it will have.
For certain movies (think Endgame on a much larger scale than this), legs are icing on the cake. The movie cost less than 100 million to produce and is already profitable. Legs could be like BvS at this point and WB would be laughing (nod to Joker) all the way to the bank.
Nice legs would be a nice bonus.
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So happy for Joaquin Phoenix that the Joker blew up. It has a relatively low budget and is already profitable in its first week. It2 and Joker have given WB two decisive wins after a lackluster year thus far. DC films are having a good run. This is the third straight film with good (Joker and Aquaman)/great (Shazam) reviews and profitable. Hope BoP continues trend leading into WW next summer.
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It2’s performance is good if it isn’t compared to the first chapter. I read an article the other day, that the box office, Disney theme park, and other entertainment venues are starting to feel the effects of the economic slow down here in the US. FFH likely missing 400M is probably another sign. All of this has me worried about WW84 next summer. I thought for sure that It2 would come close to the first one. I think if the movie opened last year, it would have come close. Same with Spider-Man FFH. Still amazing box office performances, but in a different year/atmosphere may have exceeded their current performances. One never knows though. Those are just my thoughts.
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Happy Birthday, @sfran43. If you drink, knock a couple down for BOT. Enjoy!
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I just checked The Numbers and the estimate for FFH is 515K, so I don’t think it will make it to 400M. Will probably reach 390 though. Still a massive success and first Spidey movie to pass 1B. Awesome!!! I just don’t understand why Sony and theater chains decided to drop its theater count by so much.
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1. Wonder Woman
2. Spider-Man 2
3. The Dark Knight
4. Avengers - Infinity War
5. Black Panther
6. Superman 2
7. Batman
8. Avengers- Endgame
9. Spider-Man
10. Superman
11. Batman Begins
12. Iron Man
13. Captain America
14. X-Men
15. Blade
16. Avengers
17. Batman Begins
18. Logan
19. Captain Marvel
20. The Dark Knight Rises
21. Batman v Superman
22. Civil War
23. Wolverine
24. Aqua-Man
25. Spider-Man - Far From Home
26. Thor Ragnarok
27. The Incredible Hulk- Ed Norton version
28. Green Lantern
29. Guardians of The Galaxy 2
30. Justice League
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7 minutes ago, terrestrial said:
Those underperforance seems to be based on 2 areas:
Disneyland 'lacking attendance'
and probably more important:
Fox
- the buy causing e.g. some governmental demanded sales, but as time-limeted to be finalised within 4 weeks, not good conditions to get the best price and
- Fox movies not doing good, 3rd quarter ended with a $170m loss (3rd quarter last year was a $180m plus)
Roughly $7.47b of those seem to be for 'Disney released' titles in 2019, the difference - depending Fox titles already count or not and if yes since when - maybe being 2018 holdovers and income for the distribution of non Disney movies in some countries?
In comparison the Disney's whole year numbers of 2018 and old Disney record year of 2016:
2018 = $7.33b
2016 = $7.61b
Fox Film studio, impact for that to see in 2y, will see some big changes, also thos got announced:
https://variety.com/2019/film/news/disney-fox-xmen-marvel-studio-losses-1203294296/
Yeah, but Fox is now Disney’s problem. These studios’ operating costs and revenues/profits are complex. I just couldn’t believe that with Disney owning the summer, they were still in the red for the quarter. People here assumed that they had money to burn from the summer box office but they don’t. Even though the studio arm did really well, their shareholders are probably disappointed with the quarterlies. Nevertheless, there are still more movies to make, more ventures to pursue and more money to make. I don’t think anyone is shedding any tears for Disney. I posted because I was taken aback by the news.
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Very pleased with FFH’s drop. Hopefully, it can leg it out to 400M. TLK is doing what it’s supposed to do. It is meeting expectations.
TLK, Aladdin, TS4 and Endgame made more money than almost all the studios make in one year, yet Disney’s quarterly earnings underperformed. Hard to believe!
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1 hour ago, a2k said:
For more than a few seconds I honestly thought this thread was going political/Trump reading about US and Get Out.
Let’s not ruin BOT by infusing anything about that dumbass man.
I agree with those who loved US. I liked it more than Get Out. I realize this is a minority opinion, but Get Out was way overrated to me.
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TLK was awesome. So happy to be able to share a bit of my youth with my son. I honestly don’t know why it was so harshly reviewed. Was it perfect? No. But it was a heck of a good time for families at the movies. People clapped at the end of my show, which was 90% capacity in a theater that holds more than 400.
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40 minutes ago, cdsacken said:
Predictions were 170-210 roughly before Thursday night. Box office pro predicted 185. Don't be ridiculous. Things will continue to "disappoint" in relation to previews as previews continue to expand.
I wish there were a bravo (clap) reaction.. This is exactly right. People need to be a bit more measured in their expectations with the ever changing dynamic of the box office.
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4 minutes ago, cdsacken said:
Definitely gonna be me once my kiddo gets a bit older. Right now I have to be too selective with a 4 year old but she's still seen like 15 movies.
LOL. I know.... My son is 5. I dragged him to see Aladdin. He had no desire to see it. But he was glad that he did. He loved it- especially the genie with his “Never Had A Friend Like Me” song. I also dragged him to see Wonder Park, The Grinch, Smallfoot, etc... The movie he was dying to see and we went together on opening night was SLOP2. He also wanted to see TS4, which we also saw on opening night.
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1 hour ago, cannastop said:
Do women watch more movies than men?
I can speak for myself and say most definitely. The AMC A-List was a good investment for me. I go to the movies with my son a lot. Therefore, I see a lot of PG stuff. Sometimes I drag him rather than the other way around. 😂
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Wonder Woman 1984 | Dec 16 2020 OS | Dec 25 2020 US and on HBO MAX
in Box Office Discussion
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I cannot wait for this trailer. I hope it rocks and doesn’t disappoint us. The trailer for the first movie was so awesome.