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@Porthos I dug up some charts I had from my In The Heights Box Office Club (#RIP #TheImpossibleDreamIsDead), since BOM is useless. (And omg did this take longer than it should've to get them here. My mobile and computer were like NOPE) ** Disney Musicals (Animated and Live Action) dominate at the Box Office. So we're going to remove all of those, including Mary Poppins Returns. We're left with: All Time, Top Ten, Non-Disney, Not Adjusted for Inflation, Musical Grosses MOVIE YEAR DOM WW TOTAL 1 Grease 1978 $181,813,770 $387,510,179 2 The Greatest Showman 2017 $174,340,174 $440,973,522 3 Chicago 2002 $170,687,518 $306,770,545 4 The Sound of Music 1965 $163,214,286 $286,214,286 5 La La Land 2016 $151,101,803 $426,351,163 6 Les Miserables 2012 $148,809,770 $442,169,052 7 Mamma Mia! 2008 $144,130,063 $615,748,772 8 Into The Woods 2014 $128,002,372 $213,116,401 9 Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again! 2018 $120,634,935 $395,438,126 10 Hairspray 2007 $118,871,849 $203,035,572 Traditional Musicals don't earn as much at box office as they used to. Long gone are the days of Arthur Freed's domination. In recent years we've seen a healthy revival of musical biopics (Bohemian Rhapsody, Rocketman) and musical-hybrids (A Star Is Born 2018, Yesterday) at the box office. ** Traditional Musicals: Even Christmas Legs and Disney couldn't stop Mary Poppins Returns from cracking 200M. Disney could only get Into The Woods to 127M, another Holiday Release. The Greatest Showman's 174M was a miracle of legs, legs, legs. Past Decade, Top Ten, Non-Disney, Not Adjusted for Inflation, Musical Grosses MOVIE YEAR DOM WW TOTAL Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again! 2018 $120,634,935 $395,438,126 The Greatest Showman 2017 $174,340,174 $440,973,522 La La Land 2016 $151,101,803 $426,351,163 Into The Woods 2014 $128,002,372 $213,116,401 Annie 2014 $85,911,262 $139,829,625 Black Nativity 2013 $7,018,188 $7,454,184 Les Miserables 2012 $148,809,770 $442,169,052 Rock of Ages 2012 $38,518,613 $61,031,932 Joyful Noise 2012 $30,932,113 $31,157,914 Footloose 2011 $51,802,742 $62,989,834

Wicked has been in development hell for so long that I will believe it when I see it in a movie theater. I also don’t know if it’s can I have that much pull in power. It’s right there up in the echelon of like Phantom of the opera or Cats or Les Mis And that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s going to be a quality movie or that it’s going to be a big box office hit.

That was kind of my point from the posts above. If he can’t get a musical to make big box office number is, I don’t know who can. But on the other hand we live in a hell scape, so just our luck, dear Evan Hansen will open to like $100 million. And then you’re gonna have to find a new administrator for the forum, because I’m just gonna go off in a corner and I’m never going to return Another random thought, is now I think we could probably get LMM As Joe in Sunset Boulevard with Glenn Close. Because maybe you should look at this, and not be threatened by him overshadowing her. Since obviously whoever plays Joe it’s going to be someone that is not going to overshadow the inevitable campaign for Glenn Close is getting her Oscar, If she doesn’t get the award, She’s going to go fatal attraction on who ever wins it

But those are both already in production. I doubt you’re going to get another one green lit and a very long time. I mean, whatever. I’m just gonna go watch my Gene Kelly movies. 😂

RIP The Movie Musical (1927-2021).

Change of plans. We postponed it because it’s Father’s Day. So go spend time with your dad

Hey! We’re going to try and do this at 2 PM today. We were not able to do it yesterday because I had an issue

This is WAY WAY WAY too logical. It can't be this. 😜 I have a theory about this. It's one of the first times we had a major theatrical release AND the home box office version at the SAME time. So instead of getting in-depth retrospectives of the film like six months later, we got them immediately. I had a copy at my house. I could pause it. I could create screencaps. I could give you a scene-by-scene breakdown on why this is absolute garbage. Whereas if I saw it in the movie theater, I probably would've just been like "Yeah, that was okay" and not thought it was worth my time to think about it anymore. Like I'm not going to pay to see it again and take notes. Whereas, if I'm at home... So if the reviewers coming in later were NOT watching it at a presser rather at their home or off HBO Max, they could've been doing the same thing.

GIIIRL,

Marvel Comics always had the philosophy "You can play with all of the toys, any way you want, as long as you put them back when you're done." I suspect something's similar's going on here.

You mean the movie that's two years past due, eight years past its hype, about a character who is dead, and starring an actress who half the fans want to forget exists, isn't getting 14/10 BEST MOVIE EVER reviews?!?!? At this point I don't care if it's good or bad. I just want it to be good enough to get people to see it in a movie theater.

The TVA feels pretty logical to me. As does the Steve Rogers thing. My friend and I already have like 3 scenarios worked out In our heads. God I wish we could get Evans back.

Did they just follow the comics, and give the people what they want? Yes. That’s exactly what happened

I also cannot take any of the talk about the sacred timeline and the time keeper seriously, because I just imagine that he’s having a conversation about meeting Kevin Feige. He’s going to show up in their office and the main one of them is going to be in a baseball cap, and someone who looks like Victoria and someone who looks like Nate is going to be on either side. And if I do not get that joke by the end of this, then what’s the point? What is the honest to God point?

I have yet to see the film. I refuse to watch it on HBO MAX, and with my IMAX theater being closed, it's basically drive to Boston or compromise and go see it at the sub-par theater that's still open. (The theater is very nice, but it still has the aisle down the center without stadium seats, so it just sucks for that perfect experience I want from ITH.) Hopefully we can get to Boston this week. In the meantime, it's nice to see everybody back and animated here. We're probably in for a few more of these weekends until December.

Not really. When I did my ITH v WSS club (which is now dead, thanks COVID and HBO MAX), I found that Spielberg's average DOM of late -- even with December openings/legs -- was about 98M. So 115M feels very on par.

HER NAME IS STEVE

So I have yet to decide if I want to start tracking again (I am still SOOOOOO DEPRESSED about my theater!!). But, quick look at the AMC Boston Commons for Widow: IMAX: DOLBY: There's only like 3 seats sold for 3D and 1 for Standard Format. Which means sense. Premium always goes first for Marvel. ETA/ANOTHER THOUGHT: I should note that a MAJORITY of the premium theaters in the REGION are still closed. Cinemagic -- which had 2 IMAX and 8 other recliner theaters -- is temporary out of the business. Regal has yet to open the RPX Theater in Newington. Jordan's Furniture IMAX is still closed. So, basically, for the diehards, it's Boston or Bust. Which might be why these are looking so good.

@TalismanRing!!!

I got my tickets for the Eternals trailer for July 7. I CAN NOT WAIT to watch marvel movies with fans again! 😭😭

Steve travels back to Peggy to make his own timeline. Steve becomes a variant. Attempts to apprehend variant and his BAMF Queen go array. Fast forward to 2023, people think Steve Rogers is on the moon. Hand waving hijinks plot here, the only logical conclusion: Steve and Peggy are running the TVA Moon Base.