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  1. lorddemaxus
    Will this have effect on presales?
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    Swap around DOM and OS numbers and I agree with you.
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    Ok, is this a satire account or the real Grace? I mean, Randolph has actually said shit as dumb as this.
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    I am the last person to have something against this film. Phil Lord (and Chris Miller) is one of my favourite writers (and directors) of this decade and the last thing I want is a film he was involved in to perform badly, and I never said the film will perform badly. Just under you guys say. The movie also looks better than any superhero movie I have seen in a long time. Also, what I said is a fact regardless of how you want to mock it. This is a box office forum, you don't just use your instincts to predict how a movie performs.
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    No, I think Frozen 2 will easily make over 1.5 billion. Toy Story 4 will make one billion. Secret Life of Pets 2 is also a potential billion dollar movie. HTTYD 3 will also make more than 700 mil. Just think niche animated films won't make a lot of money because they haven't in the past 20 or so years (considering that 2d animation is now considered niche, not since The Lion King). Box office is speculation though (Unless you get actual numbers from insiders and none of the insiders here have given any numbers). You can never 100% accurately predict a film's performance. There is no proper precedent for how any film should perform because people don't act rationally and don't choose what movie to choose logically. What you can do is try to find odds and that is why I have done using stats and comparisons. If you want to give a counter argument, fine but don't dismiss my argument because it is completely valid.
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    Animation is kiddie for the GA regardless of how it looks. That is why adult-oriented animation doesn't exist outside of television and VOD. You really think men in their 20s and above are the target audience? No, families are always the biggest demographic for an animated film. Without families, no animated movie would make nearly as much money as it does, including this film. Also, the film's animation isn't innovative. Beautiful? yes. Unique? Yes. But nothing technically innovative about it. But like I said, what you are talking about is doing something a film like this has never done in the past 20 years or so. Keeping expectations low is something important and 300 WW is imo is a really high estimate to be a minimum. People kept their expectations high for Lego Batman and we saw what happened. Yes, we will find out soon but I don't know how literal stats don't make up a good argument. Isn't that how box office is predicted? Facts and comparisons. I offered both but I guess that is not good enough.
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    That argument makes no sense at all. Lego Batman was two brands combined together. It should theoretically perform better than just an animated Batman movie. Also, this isn't Spiderman, it is an animated Spiderman and it isn't even Peter Parker. I am just saying, you guys are overpredicting this movie just like you did with Lego Batman. Neither market will just watch those movies I mentioned earlier, but competition is competition. Lego Batman is literally the only movie that Spiderman Into the Spiverse can be compared to also. Theatrically released animated movies based on superheroes are very rare. If the animation style does fail to appeal with US audiences though, there is no way the film will do good overseas because the animation style is extremely niche. I just find it unlikely for Spiderman Into the Spiderverse to do something that pretty much no "not traditional CGI animated movie" has ever done since The Lion King (which is to cross 500 mil worldwide and only Tarzan has come close since TLK with 448 mil). Again, I am only parroting this because that is what the stats tell me.
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    Maybe you could spell out why for me instead of just adding nothing to the conversation.
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    OS sure as hell isn't going to be 300 mil. Spiderman is big but that completely changes when it comes to animation. The movie is going to have the same DOM-OS split as The Lego Batman, so lower OS than DOM. And this is considering the fact that Batman is also almost as big overseas. Plus, this animation style is a sure guarantee the movie won't be that appealing overseas. Also, Europe is going to have Mary Poppins while Asia is going to have Aquaman and Bumblebee. Don't see any room for Spider-man there. The statistic is that if the film doesn't have the same animation style as a Pixar film (so Dreamworks, Disney animation, Illumination, Blue Sky, and other Sony animated films like Hotel Transylvania fit this bill), you won't cross 500 mil worldwide. Only one has come close recently and that was The Lego Movie which released on a relatively empty February.
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    It probably won't nag both either considering Disney films have won them almost all the time. Disney has monopoly power over the animated awards. Annies are also just a Disney advertisement.
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    The animated film award is basically an advertisement for Disney (I mean so is the whole academy awards ceremony; they literally were advertising A Wrinkle in Time halfway through last year) so Wreck it Ralph or Incredibles 2 will win regardless of how good any other animated film is.
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    FTFY
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    And this is why I think the movie is not going to break out like some people are expecting it to. I loved the animation style personally but I know that the majority of the public will not like it for the same reason and also because it looks too old-school/comic-book like. I don't see it making past 200 mil and think it will end up with around The Lego Batman's box office(should be a bit higher worldwide though).
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    Are those Fandango tracking numbers for Aquaman for the Amazon previews? Just asking because you don't have tracking numbers listed for any other December film.
  15. lorddemaxus
    Nah, I think Bumblebee will easily lose out this Christmas. Literally has no buzz and marketing and both are important for a film like Bumblebee. I think Aquaman could do a Jumanji sort of run. I still am not sure about Mary Poppins winning this Christmas. The only musical that has made over 400 mil unadjusted is the Beauty and the Beast remake. I think both Aquaman and Mary Poppins will make more than 300 mil but it will be close between both.
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