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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
I understand that too, but your data is actual data which is way better than the sample. With Pulse especially for bigger movies it began to break down because of the daily caps. Pulse was pretty much useless for Endgame and probably would have been for TROS as well. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Keyser is way better than Pulse though. -
Are you saying it had the best reception it could have had? Nobody is denying it has good, even very good reception but it's increase was more like GOTG2 to GOTG (GOTG2 also had good reception but not as great as the biggest breakout sequels). It isn't delusional to think that the increase could have been bigger if the reception had been better. Also it is ridiculous to say that @Arendelle Legion and @pepsa as "zombie redditors who have a distorted view of reality". They both have a very good grasp of how F2 has performed in various markets. Maybe you should visit the international threads (especially the SK thread) sometime and see for yourself.
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Wouldn't even bother continue to responding to people, everyone is willfully misinterpreting what you and @Arendelle Legion have been saying. You guys are 100% correct, although I would note that sequels have an inherently higher bar in getting the kind of great reception that would have propelled F2 higher.
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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
>50m 3-day should happen for Bad Boys. Phenomenal performance. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
21 Bridges comp looks reasonable tbh -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
That is excellent for Bad Boys previews, and it should be a very walkup friendly movie as well. If it could get to 4m previews it could be looking at 45-50 even for the 3-day. -
For me, I am not a fan of the business so much as the world/characters. The difference between that and supporting a good movie is just that when I am a fan of something, I am invested in speculating about future projects, where certain characters will go, and discussing it more often than with other films that I enjoy.
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I haven't seen Joker so I have no opinion one way or another on its nominations. I do take issue with people saying it "elevated the genre" and claiming that everyone needs to celebrate the movie even if they didn't like it. I had the same issue when people said Black Panther (a movie which I loved) "elevated the genre", and that everyone had to like it for that reason. I don't consider "elevating the genre" something that a single film can do, and I don't think that CBMs particularly need "elevating" either.
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Seriously? Awards shows don't decide which movies enter the pantheon of history, people do. Plenty of Oscar winners have been forgotten and plenty of films that strike out are remembered. I haven't been able to see Joker yet, so why should I celebrate it just because people at Venice thought it was good? I'll see it and make up my own mind.
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Pretty normal I'd say. Especially with discount Tuesday probably being a lot stronger this week than last. Hobbit 2 dropped a bit less but Discount Tuesdays were nowhere near what they are now.
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People thought the PT had killed the brand and disgruntled fans wouldn't be brought back. Still, I don't see how expectations from months before TFA's release are particularly useful when analyzing TROS's performance. TFA was a huge event that couldn't be replicated, but so was TPM. Yet TLJ had the same % drop as AOTC despite a better hook and TFA's much better reception than TPM, and TROS is dropping again while ROTS had a significant increase (due to a good hook + significantly better buzz) despite the not great reception of AOTC. No matter how you slice it that isn't a healthy trend.
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Idk I would probably also put him below Watts, Favreau, Branagh, and maybe Johnston, about on par with Peyton Reed, and above the rest. I agree he did have interesting things to say about death which could put him higher but I don't think that came through strongly in the film. Edit: also Black is probably above him
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I think (and this is totally anecdotal I admit) that DS's reception seems worse online than it actually is because the movie doesn't have that big a group who absolutely love it and it's one of their favorite MCU films in the same way the MCU Spidey films or GOTG2 do. But the majority of people liked it just fine and it doesn't have as many intense haters as those films either.