Starphanluke
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It still hasn't opened in Japan. So maybe $5m more there as well. I think that's around what Bumblebee did, maybe a little less.
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Yeah, but there's nuance in it. With Transformers, expectations come into play. Flash was expected to be one of the biggest movies of the year. It... is not. Many people here expected Transformers to bomb horribly. Instead, it's "just" a disappointment. I don't think anyone would claim its numbers are good. Especially internationally.
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Pleasantly surprised by Transformers later holds. Feels like it should make a run on $150m. Flash already $2m under it is embarrassing.
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Imagine thinking Indy is bombing because of Phoebe Waller Bridge. Get a grip, y'all. (Also, she and Teddy were the best parts of the movie).
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Yeah so Indy is dead. Silver lining, I guess, it is was always meant to end a franchise, not start one. So much for going out on a high note, though. The story of the Flash continues to somehow get worse and worse each week. It's almost sad to watch now. Otherwise, really nothing remarkable going on. Transformers has quietly had better late legs than I would've expected. Not amazing, but solid. I think $150m might actually happen.
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B+ isn't a death sentence, but isn't a super great sign, either. It's not enough to make up for the general apathy towards the movie. How are holdovers looking? If some of the predictions from BOR, BOP stand, we should see some good hold (not looking at you, Flash). If Transformers actually does what they think, it will probably cross $150m in the end.
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Ngl I thought this was a lot a fun
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Holy fucking shit. It looks incredible.
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Yeah, I've seen the teasing all over Twitter. But it seems awfully soon for a second trailer?
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I wouldn't say it's "all it needed to do." It needed to turn a profit, which it won't do theatrically. It will get close enough that ancillary markets will probably make it worthwhile. Plus Hasbro helped finance the movie, and the toys are doing nicely, so all told they could very well make a sequel. But there should be alarm bells going off over the international gross. China isn't a cushion for the franchise like it once was.
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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)
Starphanluke replied to Cap's topic in Numbers and Data
So I just went to grab myself a ticket for the first Indy 5 showing tomorrow. 4pm Dolby at one of the busiest theaters in the city (fairly large Midwestern city), and it's bleak. 15 tickets sold for the showing. Granted, it's a 4pm on a Thursday, but these showings for the tentpoles are almost always near-sellout on the Thursday premium screens. The rest of the weekend doesn't look quite so dire (it looks a lot like Transformers did a couple of weeks ago), but it's a shock to see the previews so light. -
At least it's chugging along. Will pass Bumblebee domestically before Friday and TLK this weekend. Honestly, I think it's time for theatres to start building multiple of each premium screen per theater. I think a lot of these movies could have performed better if they had more acces to premium screens (except for the Flash. RIP Flash).
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For some reason I was thinking Transformers was still in the $200m range WW. Hm. Maybe it actually will squeak by $400m. Not great, but not The Flash, either. Edit: It seems like Australia opened this weekend, and Japan is the last major market to go. Can't find the Japanese numbers for past movies off-hand, but I think Bumblebee was like $5m? So not like it will make much of a dent in the total.
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Probably not happening since it will lose theatres will the Kraken movie and Indy hitting next weekend. But it should get into the 140s.
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Excited for this one. ILM is doing the animation. It's the first time doing a full animated movie since Rango.
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Nice to see Elemental hold at least decently. And not a bad start for NHF considering we were worried it would struggle to hit $10m a couple weeks ago. I'm weirdly excited to see what the Flash's number is. International is bad for Transformers, but domestic is at least increasing vs. Bumblebee and TLK. Which, in this market, isn't nothing. But the movie is still going lose a lot of money. Puts Paramount in a weird position of where to go with the brand.
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Transformers is vibing over in it's corner, just relieved that Flash is bombing so hard no one's paying attention to it posting soft numbers. Where's this one landing? $140m ish?
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...why did Transformers go up on Sunday. That's weird.
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I still think there's a "win" in the narrative of grossing more domestic than Bumblebee and TLK. But otherwise yeah lmao. I 100% think Paramount will try and get Bay back for Transformers vs. GI Joe for one last try with the franchise.
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Yeah, a 24.5 OD and a B Cinemascore. I don't see it, even with an inflated Sunday.
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Do not undersell how widespread the coverage of their crimes was. Local news even covered it across the country. Plus, it became a meme across Twitter and TikTok.
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Between the B Cinemascore and rapidly falling weekend projection, Flash is going from "a little embarrassing" to a full-blown disaster. Holy shit.
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I'm also not convinced Transformers drop is quite the disaster people think it is. It's a Transformers movie in summer, it was always going to drop over 60. The fact that it opened over expectations was the only "win" that movie was ever going to get. We'll see where Paramount goes from here with that franchise (hint: lower the damn budget. Bumblebee at like $120m was good).
