Starphanluke
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B+ isn't a death sentence, but isn't a super great sign, either. It's not enough to make up for the general apathy towards the movie. How are holdovers looking? If some of the predictions from BOR, BOP stand, we should see some good hold (not looking at you, Flash). If Transformers actually does what they think, it will probably cross $150m in the end.
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I wouldn't say it's "all it needed to do." It needed to turn a profit, which it won't do theatrically. It will get close enough that ancillary markets will probably make it worthwhile. Plus Hasbro helped finance the movie, and the toys are doing nicely, so all told they could very well make a sequel. But there should be alarm bells going off over the international gross. China isn't a cushion for the franchise like it once was.
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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)
Starphanluke replied to Cap's topic in Numbers and Data
So I just went to grab myself a ticket for the first Indy 5 showing tomorrow. 4pm Dolby at one of the busiest theaters in the city (fairly large Midwestern city), and it's bleak. 15 tickets sold for the showing. Granted, it's a 4pm on a Thursday, but these showings for the tentpoles are almost always near-sellout on the Thursday premium screens. The rest of the weekend doesn't look quite so dire (it looks a lot like Transformers did a couple of weeks ago), but it's a shock to see the previews so light. -
At least it's chugging along. Will pass Bumblebee domestically before Friday and TLK this weekend. Honestly, I think it's time for theatres to start building multiple of each premium screen per theater. I think a lot of these movies could have performed better if they had more acces to premium screens (except for the Flash. RIP Flash).
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For some reason I was thinking Transformers was still in the $200m range WW. Hm. Maybe it actually will squeak by $400m. Not great, but not The Flash, either. Edit: It seems like Australia opened this weekend, and Japan is the last major market to go. Can't find the Japanese numbers for past movies off-hand, but I think Bumblebee was like $5m? So not like it will make much of a dent in the total.
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Nice to see Elemental hold at least decently. And not a bad start for NHF considering we were worried it would struggle to hit $10m a couple weeks ago. I'm weirdly excited to see what the Flash's number is. International is bad for Transformers, but domestic is at least increasing vs. Bumblebee and TLK. Which, in this market, isn't nothing. But the movie is still going lose a lot of money. Puts Paramount in a weird position of where to go with the brand.
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I'm also not convinced Transformers drop is quite the disaster people think it is. It's a Transformers movie in summer, it was always going to drop over 60. The fact that it opened over expectations was the only "win" that movie was ever going to get. We'll see where Paramount goes from here with that franchise (hint: lower the damn budget. Bumblebee at like $120m was good).
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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)
Starphanluke replied to Cap's topic in Numbers and Data
Between the B Cinemascore and rapidly falling weekend projection, Flash is going from "a little embarrassing" to a full-blown disaster. Holy shit. Edit: dammit, this was supposed to be in the weekend thread. -
I have a feeling it may become a standard 4-day weekend at the box office over time (now that it's a federal holiday and many private employers are adding it to the list of work Holidays), but I don't think it's one of those yet. But it is technically a holiday weekend, which will at least inflate Sunday a bit (in addition to Father's Day). At this point, though, I feel like Spider-Verse, Transformers, and Elemental will probably benefit the most from Father's Day.