JWR
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4 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:
Barbie made more on its opening weekend worldwide at $356M than Flash did in its entire run WW at $268M.
Put this into perspective:
The Flash is going to make less money than John Carter.
Even my most pessimistic prediction couldn't have seen that one coming.
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To think that 9 months ago, almost everyone was overjoyed by the news of Iger coming back. Funny how that's turned out...
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The thing that worries me about these strikes isn't how long they last or which shows get axed, it's what happens next. I'm concerned that we're all just going to go on with business as usual and that these studio heads will face no repercussions for this, looking for new ways to screw over their talent.
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1 hour ago, Cappoedameron said:
WGA and AMPTP are gonna have to meet in the middle somewhere and I think they will soon. Probably in September.
Expect the January 2024 slate of shows to be very condensed episode count of probably 10-13 episode seasons.
This reads like a last minute act of desperation from the AMPTP.
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16 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:
Not too shabby at all.
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10 minutes ago, abracadabra1998 said:
This is a great ruling, hopefully it’s a check back to reality for studios (it won’t be but one can hope)We can only hope this at least causes them to think twice.
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9 hours ago, ZeeSoh said:
Just when Indy was hoping to snatch the crown, Flash was like nope the crown for the biggest box office disaster of the year belongs to me.
A fitting epitaph to this whole mess.
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48 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:
This was originally set for 2024, so my guess is it moved up because of the strike disrupting what their regular release plans were.
Probably.
Still, this looks fun. Cautiously optimistic.
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4 hours ago, AniNate said:
I naively hoped that Elemental's comeback would maybe put that discourse on the backburner. I don't think they need to cut anything as long as their movies still make money.
It... sort of did.
The important part is that Elemental quashed the narrative that Pixar is a dying brand and that audiences won't see original animation in theaters because of Disney+.
Furthermore, this should give Disney more incentive to let their movies have long healthy theatrical runs.
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I think Coco was the last Pixar film (to get a full theatrical run) that cost under $200M ($175M).
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Of the three parties involved, I do expect the AMPTP to make the most concessions.
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There are no "good ones" when it comes to CEOs.
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9 minutes ago, MysteryMovieMogul said:
There will 100% be a counteroffer, but there were definitely writers and actors hoping these strikes would be a paradigm shift and more change would happen within the industry. With this latest leak, it doesn't feel like that will be the case.
I honestly think we're reaching the back-half of the strike, if we're not there already, but with that, we're also going to get a few active-on-social-media writers and actors who were part of the same group who thought Bernie Sanders would win the 2016 and 2020 elections who are going to make the final stretch very rough.Yeah...
As is usually the case, both parties are going to have to make concessions. The AMPTP is not going to walk away scott free, but this will probably not be complete victory for creators that some SAG and WGA members were hoping for.
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Nobody knows anything. Until we hear it straight from the actual people at the table, we should take it with a grain of salt.
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5 hours ago, Human said:
Sometimes working fast and spotaneous makes the best product.
There's a difference between working fast and rushing a product
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Fingers crossed that the deal is making some progress.
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15 hours ago, Porthos said:
No, it really isn't.
One of the bigger problems in Hollywood the last 10 to 20 years is rushing out films before they are ready. Not gonna tag Tele (as I doubt he wants to be tagged into this thread), but he is right on when he complains about films locking in dates years in advance.
The more I think about it and the more I observe substandard or mediocre films/shows that needed more baking in the oven the more I am convinced that Hollywood's obsession with locking in calendar dates is one of the bigger drivers of current dissatisfaction.
Everything from sloppy VFX to half-baked plots to bloated, ballooned, budgets can be laid at least in part at the feet of rushing out films/shows to meet arbitrary deadlines.
Plotting/scripting should be an obvious one so I won't spend time on it. VFX is slightly more obvious if one takes into consideration if outfits are being told to do six to nine months worth of work in three to six. Budgets are a less obvious one, but they too can balloon thanks in part to corps "throwing money at the problem" in an attempt to get the project out the door on time (even as they overwork the folks who are on the project). The irony, of course, is that people will look at the bottom line budget and wonder "well what the hell did they spend it on?"
Of course not nearly everything can be laid at the feet of calendar setting when it comes to projects that aren't at the level they should be (once again, making art of any sort is ***HARD***). Not by a long shot. But it sure isn't helping matters.
tl;dr: Stop obsessing about calendar dates and start obsessing about only putting out projects when they're ready for primetime.
I'll add onto this: Don't feel the need to inundate your audience with content. I get striking while the iron is hot, but every now and then, it helps when people have had time to miss a show/movie, so that there's more anticipation when the next one comes out. When your creators have time to fully commit to a project, it's more likely that the thing will turn out well.
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Seems beagle's account has been flagged. Good riddance.
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18 minutes ago, YM! said:
And people seriously wanted this tool back at Pixar.
Yeesh. I didn't think we'd be getting these kinds of reports so soon.
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1 hour ago, AniNate said:
Given Pete Docter and two original VAs are not involved I'm still not very high on this, though now I'm thinking Cars 2 numbers are the worst-case scenario as opposed to Lightyear. Think Elio could beat it domestically if it's got the goods.
Meg LeFauve coming back gives me hope. Plus, I'm pretty sure Amy Poehler was involved in how Joy's story turned out in the first movie.
But, we'll see.
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2 minutes ago, Ryan Reynolds said:
Another Friday meeting
https://deadline.com/2023/08/writers-guild-strike-talks-resume-amptp-1235459662/
Not expecting a whole lot of progress, but good news nevertheless.
The Disney Thread | Happy 90th to Donald Duck!
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Yes, but I'm more referring to how Iger has basically made himself public enemy number 1 after being heralded as the guy who would "save Disney" when he came back.