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Everything posted by BadOlCatSylvester
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Is there anything left to say really? Is anyone surprised that a movie riddled with drama for well over a year is not very good? I'm just ready for it to finally end tomorrow. The lack of leadership and a vision, letting rumours run rampant for years and years, giving random characters movies over fixing relations with Henry and Ben, and so on. I can already tell after a year in charge that Gunn's new regime is setting out to right these wrongs. Superman Legacy cannot come soon enough. Here's to hoping DC can move on from this mess and move forward as a brand in the years to come.
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The big difference between the two is their overseas revenue. Domestically the second movie finished neck and neck with the first, but the overseas revenue took a pretty big dip for obvious reasons. Honestly, for a sequel to a film that wasn't very well received and was artifically propped up by the goodwill of Infinity War, that's not a bad result in the slightest. The studios behind Ninja Turtles 2 and Alice 2 would kill for a result like that.
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I'd add Aquaman 1, Shazam 1, the Snyder Cut and The Suicide Squad to that list. Only 5 truly great movies out of 12 (I have no plans to touch the original Suicide Squad and Josstice League, and Aquaman 2 is not out here at the time of writing) is not a good run to say the least. The Snyder Cut was the perfect sendoff to this franchise for me, and everything afterwards feels like expensive fanfiction to me. I wonder if anyone else feels this way.
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Purely anectodal, but here at my big chain mall theater it has sold a whopping 7 tickets across 5 shows on opening day that are on sale right now. And all 7 of those are for the 10 PM show. This result is atrocious for a superhero tentpole 3 days out, as there are usually a decent amount of seats in the middle sold out by then, as I remember the case being for The Batman here.
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Weekdays Thread | #THU - Wonka $4.21M &Heron $896K
BadOlCatSylvester replied to Issac Newton's topic in Numbers and Data
This is a very good start for the weekdays, but the drop not being all that far off the infamously frontloaded Last Jedi does leave me concerned. -
A fitting end for one of the biggest jobbers this franchise has ever seen. The decision to have him get beaten by Ant-Man and his army of ants pretty much killed him as a big bad. No one is going to ever take him seriously after that. And with Loki's ending leaving them with a convenient out, I'll join the camp who wants Kang gone entirely and Avengers 5 to be something else. Maybe a fight between the main world and the Illuminati world ending with Loki Who Remains rebooting everything and taking on the Beyonder role in Secret Wars, assuming that still gets made after all this. Hopefully James Gunn and his team are paying very close attention and taking plenty of notes so that their franchise never suffers a downfall like Marvel has.
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I still think Colour Purple will win over Wonka and the month overall, as from what I've gleamed the subject matter for the former seems like it'd be more well-suited to be a breakout in America over a Willy Wonka prequel movie. Overseas is going to be a different story though, as black movies have generally struggled internationally relative to how they perform in America. And how many foreigners know what Colour Purple is? I didn't until Warner initially announced this musical remake back in 2020.
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Racebaiting over a movie most have already forgotten about is just pathetic. Wonka is a whimsical family-friendly December musical with good word of mouth, whereas The Marvels was a poorly-received entry in a tired old franchise riddled with baggage. The former also cost half, maybe even less than that, as much as the latter to make.
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To clarify, I think of Josstice League as the killing blow to this franchise. But to answer your question, I think Aquaman 2 fits that bill a lot better, because at least Warner tried to hype up The Flash as best as they could considering how rough the movie ultimately was. Much like Dark Phoenix before it, Aquaman 2 is being sent out to die with subpar marketing. Warner's not even trying and not taking any more risks considering the franchise has been bleeding money for years at this point.
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Damn, Rebel Moon and Aquaman 2 really are being released on the same day. It will be ironic to see Zack attempt to launch a new franchise on the same day his first one gives out its last breath. While I love his Justice League cut, and he ultimately wasn't the one to kill the DCEU, it was his questionable decisions made on both Man of Steel and especially Batman v Superman that got that franchise into the mess it remained in until the bitter end.
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There is a really compelling movie about Barry fighting his demons and coming to terms with his mother's death in there, but unfortunately the movie looks atrocious, is too distracted with a bland multiverse story, and utterly collapses with one of the worst third acts I've ever seen on film. Even the first Wonder Woman movie's final battle looks like the Snyder Cut's when compared to what The Flash offers. Anyway, I'm disappointed Wonka didn't hit $40M in the end, but this is still a good number overall. I don't see another Jumanji or Greatest Showman in it like so many do, but it's more than enough of a good movie to hit at least $160M or so. If The Colour Purple wasn't shaping up to be a breakout in America $200M would be a decent possibility. Thankfully it's been doing very well overseas so that should make up for any potential domestic shortcomings.