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well she acts everything like that.

well if you spend 30M on promotion and that's give you only 15M more at the box office it's better to make 15M less or you have lost 15M more 😅 of course this is not the case cause it's amazon etc.. etc...

yeah full guy can give the "netflix vibe". Then the film should just better than anything netflix has ever made with this genre cause they are all near to panned movies and this is not, but people don't know so yeah this could be part of the problem. Gosling in what's is the promotional material gives for the look and the attitude definitely the vibe of that terrible movie he made for netflix.

yeah the campaign was kinda weird. All these movies accounts on twitter posted anything about red carpets, interviews etc.. at the level of Barbie and Oppenheimer and more than any other big movie released after that, to the point now what it's a more than decent debut for this kinda of a movie seems weak cause it was hyped like one of the movies of the year. Anyways another proof twitter is now more irrelevant than tumblr. Doesn't represent real people taste, real people perceptions, real people diversity but it's just a limited group of people with a very specific taste. Also it's the social were the people are more fake than the others, they just like- dislike things and depends if this can give engangements. So the positive engangment you can find there can be very fake and staged. If i would be a marketing strategist i would give that social very few attention at this point.

filmupdates clearly gets money to promote movies. It was clear with Barbie, this and some other in the last year or so. The expectation for every movies is to make money and this will hardly be a success only by the theaters. Saying that (the movie is clearly not 150M at the box office stuff) the only projection we got was 15M some day ago and it's on pair with it, it's not beating anything.

wrong thread.

as i said yesterday with these numbers people are kinda really interested to the movie are going to watch it. If they would have been more successfull at involving a wider and more generic audience it would have risk imo a B- cinemascore.

it's good, i was expecting a B at best. Most people don't really care about the technical aspects and things like that, most people judge a movie for the story and how the story involves them. I can see why some people are not really involved by the story and the characters are not very likable.

Interesting number for the fall guy here yesterday. It made 100k from previews in around 250 screens with only 1-2 screens for copy. It's not bad at all if you think the movie shouldn't have fanbases or something like that going at previews cause they can't wait anymore. Challangers still doing good but under expectations. For the rest there is nothing special to talk about.

Girl mediocre actors have won oscars. Are you really talking about emmys? I'm not saying she's a terrible actress but she's not a good-great actress. It's like Emma Watson territory. Can work for several reasons in some roles but it's not this pure talent of acting like the actress for a reason are casted by scorsese, tarantino, gerwig, nolan, Lanthimos and they don't need to produce a movie to get a part.

i think challengers has "enough" tennis. I can understand expectations can be different but you can't say imo there isn't enough tennis.

Challengers is a very good movie, even if not like critics were saying. Has a lot of lows but it's somehow a magnetic movie. but it's not for the big crowds...the movie is not set to incredible numbers so i guess most people going this weekend are kinda interested already to the director or Zendaya fans or whatever so they could say they like but i still think cinemascore is gonna be like a B at best.

zendaya doesn't work not only because she doesn't have the psyque du role and looks younger, i mean people can look younger than their age even in real life,... her acting is very mid in general. She has 2-3 scene where she tries something new, for the rest the same two expressions with half closed eyes to look intense or a sulky face.

she likes the better Ryan? Taste!

btw yeah they clearly tried to copy Barbie strategy with Margot robbie fashion shows around the world, but if was on point with Barbie for obvious reasons what was the selling point for this film? Filmupdates bombed 1800 posts at day about her outfits. Kinda forced and annoying at some point.

15M seems the floor of the prediction right now. Should end at something in between the 15-20M range, touching 20M if walk ups are solid on saturday and sunday.

a gay movie from an unknow director now has a kinda of name. Also when call me by your name reached 3300 copies of distribution?. The widest it went was 900 screens. Of course it's better than opening a movie with someone totally has not a career like Mike Faist. But proving star power means you ha to prove you are worthing your mega cachet, cause the movie costs 55M also for that.

if you put like that yeah. It's showing she has not this incredible star power. But if yoy make a context of an adult drama opener in the post pandemic market (but i would say even some year before that, sadly) going near to the Last Scorsese territory or to Napoleon territory (with 1/4 of the budget) how can we say it's weak- bad?.

Yeah the movie definitely is not a crowd pleasure. The movie has a lot of lows, the anglophone reviews are in a total overrated territory (in europe they are way more tepid) but it's a very interesting and especially well directed movie. I wouldn't even say it's really erotic, as most Guadagnino movies is more sensual than real erotic (basically there isn'a true complete or real scene of people actually staying there naked to make sex). Of course he's very novelle vague on his gaze so you always feel his precence and the movie it's very homoerotic. IMO the biggest problem of the film it's on the acting. Sorry but Zendaya is just an average at best actress. She absolutely doesn't have the range for a role like this, she only works in the initial part when she is supposed to be younger and naive and then for the 80% of her precense it's so one note, monotous, unable to give to the character the complexity should have. If you have a movie with a very "basic" story and the only interesting things about the story is what's stays under the surface and in the "not said" of the characters actors are the most important thing you have to choice, if you have people give the most superficial interpration of characters feelings in every scene the movie lose almost anything. But i understand the only reason people know about this film it's her and more than that, the film probably exists only because she produced it. Josh O' Connor is usually a great actor he misses something too and goes on a very superificial mood in some of the scenes. The real stand out it's Mike Faist. Really, what an actor he's here. One of the Guadagnino great talents it's really to make actors are not "desiderable" (at least for most people and in the most stereotyped way) the sexiest actors you can have in the span of 2 hours of a movie.

but if i didn't get wrong people saying 750K is without previews of the previews. While people saying 2M it's with that included. So it's more like 1.5M or 2M when you put everything together.

Kinda mediocre start for Challengers (198k) if you think about the promotion, the big number of copies (almost 600 for the weekend) and it was a pre holiday day. Let's see if the WOM will help it but doesn't seems like something will break out. Still could go to 4-5M final territory. Poor things opened with 270K on a casual thursday

i think they're not stupid...the movie will definitely be about how fame destroys a man...a mean hollywood love this narrative and used it even for a character like Elton John, gives to everyone watch him nothing more than the drunk uncle at the parties, just thinks for someone like MJ probably faced this things more than any celebrity ever lived. He was the celebrity of the celebrities. so I don't know if hollywood always has tried to make sympathetic serial killers, mafia people and these soldiers go somewhere to actually sterminate people I guess we can have a little bit of that sentiment for someone just sing and dances too.

oh so it's not that low budget. The also invested a lot in promotion. Not easy to became a success only from theaters. anyways it's amazon so it doesn't have to make 150M.

of course when a trailer doesn't click with people this explains low sales. That's why trailers exist. My point was bad trailers in general clicks a lot with the GP taste 😂

even if true has this ever been a problem?