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If Marvels makes 700, it would match BP: WF’s high drop of 38%, and that without its star. So if Marvels drops that much or more, it very much should be viewed as a disappointment. Apart from Ant Man 3, everyone is ignoring that since 2022 (i.e, post pandemic), every other MCU movie has made at least 750 WW (and most of them didn’t get a China release, like Marvels will). IMO, just because Ant Man 3 failed doesn’t meant we should expect the rest of the MCU to struggle. The performance of MCU movies before or after don’t support that.

IMO, 650-700 is not a disaster, but it is a disappointment. The first movie made $1.13 billion WW, which is more than any Thor, Doctor Strange, or Guardians movie ever made. If this movie doesn’t at least come close to Thor 3, it’s a disappointment. Anything less than 650 (maybe more like 600) WW is a disaster.

With the strike still ongoing, how does that impact the rumor that this movie still has a lot of unfinished ADR? Doesn’t seem like the movie will be delayed, but does that mean it’s gonna have an unfinished aspect to it, ala Flash CGI?

Everyone needs to get off their high horse about Barrymore. The way y’all are talking about her you’d think she was a monster.

Heard from who?

To be fair, Quorum got Barbie and Oppenheimer wrong. I think they missed on a few other high profile summer releases as well.

I predict today that hopes of a quick resolution of the actors’ strike will be dashed. I think it’s gonna take until just before Thanksgiving.

I agree about the Go Woke point, but somewhat disagree about be second. If this movie makes only $600 million it definitely bolsters the idea that the MCU is in decline and also is reflective of the popularity of CM as a character.

Yeah, I think lowering the bar for success to $550-$650 is a a shifting of the goal posts on this movie. Considering the success the first one had, it really needs to be in the $700 million range. Otherwise, I think the popularity of Captain Marvel as a character and/or Brie Larson’s version of the character is in serious doubt.

They will? The first movie made $1.13 billion. If it hits the range you’re suggesting, that would be a 43-50% drop off from the first movie. That is not a win IMO, especially for a movie that cost $220-$275 million.

I would be shocked if this movie opens under $100M DOM on OW. And I say this as someone who didn’t like Captain Marvel and who does not plan to see this movie in theaters.

I think people were hopeful SAG’s strike would get resolved with a carbon copy of the WGA’s deal, but we’re seeing a lot of indications it won’t be that easy.

I think this demonstrates also that critical and audience reception of a movie can change over time. Time eventually reveals which movies endure and are viewed most favorably. I’m interested to see what TLJ’s legacy is 20 Years from now. TFA already has started to see its luster fade away in a lot of movie goers eyes.

Yes, that’s a better way to put it.

I don’t entirely agree that diverse casts always get bonus points, but I do think far too often critics let external factors influence whether they give a movie a good or bad review. 100% agree this happened with Ghostbusters 2016, which I think was all part of Sony’s strategy in amplifying the minority of misogynists who hated the movie before it came out.

Valencia is basically proving my point about how RT scores have skewed people’s perception of whether a movie is “good” or not. Gladiator has an 80% on RT. I’m sure for most people that movie is not a “B-“ of a film.

Rotten Tomatoes has really ruined how people look at reviews. This movie is getting good reviews overall, but because it’s RT score is under 90% so much of the chatter is “The Creator’s not great.” And this happens for a lot of movies. If a movie isn’t as great as Oppenheimer or Spiderverse, it sucks. I think we were better off before review aggregation sites. Too many people rely on them instead of watching a movie and making their own opinion.

Critics are weird. I think too many set too high of a standard for this movie. It was good. They just wanted it to be Lego Movie or old Pixar good.

Highly doubt SAG will be resolved that quickly.

I don’t disagree. It’s one of my favorite books. I tend to think Denis dropped the ball on the sword and shield action. He did a good job setting up how it works and then doesn’t do enough with it, even outright ignoring the rules at times.

Helped Across the Spiderverse. I’m not expecting an entirely similar boost for Dune. I like the movie, but Denis didn’t make it as GA-friendly as he could have.

I was just about to share that news. Hopefully it results in some additional exposure. Need to watch if it makes Netflix’s top ten.

I strongly suspect the delay was about more than the inability of actors to promote the movie. I tend to think the strikes prevented Villeneuve from doing re-shoots and pickups he needed to realize his vision. It was well known he developed ideas for new scenes when editing Part 1, so I’d be surprised if the same didn’t happen here. If I’m right, this also explains why we haven’t heard about any rumors about screenings, either.

I think moving Furioisa off Memorial Day and putting Dune 2 in its place would be a good idea.

That’s a good recent example. To me, it’s clear that it is rare for a sequel to drop so much in this day and age. Not impossible—just not likely.