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A lot of that has to do with the natural antipathy on the Internet boards towards period movies; a lot has to do with the fact that many people just aren't very clever.

The WOM is fantastic, so that will help. The movie is an absolute masterpiece, so the positive WOM was to be expected.

The anti-period/anti-fantasy trolls will soon be eating crow.

No. Not at all. Not unless I hear that the budget was 500M to 600M per movie.

Good for Neo. He has helped you to return from the dark side. :)BTW, you will hate me for this, but I was absolutely stunned by Blanchete in this. I had never really viewed her as truly beautiful until today- not even in the first trilogy. She captured the look and essence of Galadriel with perfection.

For a comparision, Sherlock Holmes 2, another holiday period movie that, coincidentally enough, was called a "disaster" after it sported just under $40 OW, managed to hit a 4.5X muliplier for nearly 190 DOM. I had a lot of fun calling out the trolls who said that SH2 was a bomb, after the legs kicked in. Will trolls do the same on this occasion? If the Hobbit hits an OW of "only" 85, and ends up with 350, will the trolls eat the crow? PS, the Hobbit could open with 50M this weekend, and the studio would be all but guaranteed to make money in the final analysis.

Anything over 35M OW puts this project on a path to profitability. No fear! (Especially because it may triple 35M OW).

Making hundreds of millions of dollars- I wish my own career had that kind of "backlash".

Fishnets, I like and appreciate your recent posts, the moreso because you have been a detractor who still maintains objectivity. That said, I must nitpick with your post in one way. It's not the geeks that are supporting this film; in fact, for the most part, the AICN weirdies are railing on it. It's the general audience that is making this a hit.

Disaster? Let's assume a composite 800M for the entire trilogy. Then let's assume that this movie "only" makes 100 OW. And 300M DOM and 900M WW. An incredibly conservative estimate. Multiply that by 2.5, and only 2.5 if you want to assume that the next two will be even bigger "disasters". Do you have any idea how much money is made with this "disaster"? Hundreds of millions. This would be a disaster- 30M OW, 90M DOM, 250 WW. Think it is going to sport total numbers like that? No? Then spare me the use of words like "disaster". It's a smash hit, period, point blank. The only variable is how many hundreds of millions it makes.

So much for uncertainty. A massive hit, as every non-troll predicted.

They better make the setting period, or it won't be worth a damn.

It was sort of adapted in the 2010 movie. It mainly featured characters from the first book, but also from the sequel book. It (the movie) was sort of a sequel to both books, so any sequel to the movie is sort of going to have to have its own story (though to entry into Wonderland will probably match the second book's entry, and it will probably also be named the same thing).

1. The Hobbit2. Jack the Giant Slayer3. 300 sequel4. Oz the Great and Powerful5. Seventh Son6. Hansel and Gretel WItchhunters7. Carrie8. The Last Exorcism 29. Insidious 210. White House Down

As much as I beat the drum for the movie, I have to admit that I would prefer any money to be invested in a sequel to instead be diverted towards some similar concepts. There are quite a few others in development, but my favorite (of the ones which have not actually started production) is the del Toro Beauty and the Beast concept. As for a sequel to this, the movie did fairly well, but it might be best to leave well enough alone, particularly when the original is based on a popular story which did not itself have a sequel. Everyone knows the original Snow White story, which helps build a natural fanbase; the sequel won't have that advantage.

Which is undoubtedly why it made almost 400M worldwide (in fact, it probably passed it if the numbers ever get updated). Which is why it scored around a 60 on Metacritic. That aside, I guarantee you that at least one person liked it. I did.

It might hit 400M anyway. It's probably 50/50 at this point.

Is it a definite no?

That, and the budget was 30M to 75M less, depending on which of those three movies. Along with the better domestic numbers, that's why SWatH is a moderate success, why PoP was a moderate flop, and why the other two were out and out bombs.

This better be a period setting, or it will suck.

Let's hope so.

After seeing Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy a 2nd, I have to upgrade it to A.

With two nonsense movies being released that weekend, what else was to be expected?

And good riddance to that chicken little thread. It was nonsense from the start.

I've never read it. I guess the upcoming release of the movie might be a good occasion for it.