MovieMan89

Damn, so much for best non-holiday holds I’ve seen. Thats literally all we had to cling to, might as well call the time of box office death

Japanese does not technically have a word for “fuck”, though many are aware enough of the English word to Japanese-ify it as “fuakku”, so possible that’s what was used

I just went to ET on BOM and randomly clicked on a weekend, this really does look like box office from the 80s lmao https://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/1982W32/?ref_=bo_rl_table_10

You would certainly think the GA would be getting pretty ravenous for a genuine blockbuster since even Wonka gross doesn’t really count as that. I won’t rehash, but I already illustrated how this is the longest drought ever without a true box office blockbuster (you know what doesn’t count). But I remain stubborn on Dune, I just don’t think enough people outside of the sci-fi geek demo liked 1.

Also on hypotheticals: I really wonder what a Miyazaki movie equally as acclaimed and in his fantasy wheelhouse, but much more accessible than Heron would be doing? Even though I love the movie, I maintain it is by far his most inaccessible one he’s ever made, and it still became nearly the most successful anime DOM. If this was something a bit more Howl’s esque, Pokemon 1 coulda gone down imo

Yeah several of us said since it opened that it coulda exploded in January. The entire spotlight would’ve been to itself and people want a blockbuster movie rn I think. Then it wouldn’t have that vfx Oscar nom though, but I think a 100m+ DOM smash would’ve been way cooler for them than an Oscar nom

Ugh, Heron is really gonna come so close yet so far to beating Demon Slayer DOM for #2, but don’t see how it can with no kind of re-expansion. Maybe if it wins animated Oscar and they go for expansion then, but that’s far away yet. More like a re-release

Isn’t Riley already a teen in 1? Teen to adult is not the same kind of nostalgia boost as kid to adult for these sorts of things. And no one cares about Riley as a character let’s be real, it was all about the emotions.

Entire top 12 would be sub 23% without Mean Girls stinking it up, that is wild

Smart to not age the kids if they weren’t trying the TS3 nostalgia bait angle, glad that wasn’t true then. Yeah gotta admit, trailers like that one will play gangbusters to kids. Looks like Illumination on their peak “oh we know how tf to market to kids, just watch us.” This might be as big as some of those predict after all…

These gotta be the all around best non-holiday weekend holds for the box office of my lifetime. All it took was everything being sub 7m! What is this, the 80s???

I don’t see the girls being teens now leading to the appropriate nostalgia boost. The way to go if they were really going to get nostalgia out of it again was make them college/adult age like the kids who grew up with the first few in the franchise are now.

Migration may hit 10x after all.. certainly not the trajectory I had in mind when I thought that, but good for it if it gets there. Wonka locked to save us from a possible summer to summer stretch with no 200 DOM at least.

Anatomy of a Fall seems to have a lot of Academy support based on the noms. Possible they also take the Gerwig backlash and run with awarding the sole woman in the cat

I mean isn’t that just implied by one of the highest grossing movies of all time $1.4b Barbie vs 250m combined gross of her other 4 films or whatever? Lol. Again, of course more people will be mad at such big snubs for such a massive movie. Opp ticks all the Acadmey boxes, had the Nolan was robbed multiple times narrative (which is true), Nolan’s ever rabid fanbase, and was massive as well. Like I said, backlash will be even worse if it loses the cats its frontrunner in. I can guarantee a lot of casuals who don’t normally pay attention definitely think Nolan is “owed” those awards.

Most of the same people currently whining about people being upset over the Barbie snubs would literally go nuclear on the internet if Opp loses. If yall think the Barbie backlash is annoying…

I hope Japan duo get nice bumps despite being confined to one category

#OscarsSoRelevant If this really does get more people paying attention to it this year, then things like Gladstone’s win will also get more attention.

Well of course they have way worse snubs than Barbie’s in their history that were prejudiced. The discourse is on it because it’s current and a hugely popular movie that was lauded as the total vision of its director and star. 3/5 of the BD very respectably could’ve been women this year, then we could talk about female director recognition. A Gladstone snub would have been even more infuriating for the record, but the backlash might not have crossed into mainstream as much since KotFM was not remotely a mainstream success like Barbie. Then again, it might have been a huge deal in the mainstream too since that would have seemed crazy racist given she has been the lead frontrunner the whole awards season.

It actually is with casuals though. It’s only diehard movie buffs that care that much anymore, and that’s where you see most of the complaining come from each year. It takes an OscarsSoWhite situation or something like Barbie for the backlash to crossover to mainstream. It’s not every year, they most definitely are not that relevant anymore. But yes I do see the point some are making that the Barbie snubs going mainstream is ironically making them more relevant than normal. The kind of relevancy they actually need?

In hindsight, I think it’s a matter of what I mentioned about being performative with the Up nom in 09 to quell the major TDK and Wall-E backlashes from 08 and show off how “progressive” the “new” BP field was. With TS3 the following year, it was simply a matter of once in a lifetime perfect storm for the Academy actually legit taking notice of animation. That one may not have even gotten into a 5 field either, but it shouldn’t have to be some legacy-nostalgia/15 years in the making-1 bad review movie to get them to take notice.

Exactly. Wall-E snub backlash also likely led to Up’s nom in the expanded field the next year as well (which feels purely performative on their part given where we’re at all these years later with animation). Argo was absolutely NOT the BP frontrunner prior to Affleck snub backlash. OscarsSoWhite backlash a few years running finally got them to be more inclusive of black representation consistently. The backlash definitely does matter to them when it’s loud enough since they know their grip on relevancy has been frail for years anyways. But there’s hardly any mainstream backlash rn about the animation treatment, so again they won’t do anything about it.

Well nothing deserves Return of the King treatment, so that’s an unfair metric… I’m glad for Nolan, but it’s yet another case of “give the movie the awards his movie we snubbed should have got” that they are so infamous for thanks to their *sparkles* biases. You just gotta play their game, tick their boxes

It’s seemed obvious ever since July, as I said back then. I can’t remember another year a sweep in the major cats was more obvious as soon as the movie released since Return of the King actually.

It would be nice if the academy would get heat for their treatment of animation this year. They certainly have zero incentive to start treating it like actual filmmaking as it stands.