MovieMan89

I think Emma Stone is very much a draw in the right role, and I would like to see her finally get her Barbie tentpole (those lame Spideys ain’t it). She could propel the right one to huge numbers.

Yeah it’s absolutely dismal that it could be a year or so with no 200 DOM hit. Thats just not sustainable for tentpole filmmaking at all. Granted, I’m more and more confident in Fall Guy being a huge breakout if WOM is there (thank you Ryan Gosling), but that would still be close to a year between 200 grossers.

Why has Heron not been reported this week? You would think they would go for an expansion this weekend to capitalize on the Globes win

I definitely did not think it was hitting 200 so it manages to avoid being as big of a disaster as Marvels. Thats about it though. I am most curious on the merch aspect of it all, seems like they went insane pre-release with stock shipments

Bullshit tbh considering Pixar’s whole struggle to be successful in recent years has been stupid execs devaluing the brand and greenlighting crap like Lightyear. They could probably have great box office clout rn with the push WDAS got for movies like Luca and Turning Red.

Getting OT, but I’ve always thought Dory is the strongest of the non-TS sequels by a mile. And much stronger than TS4 too.

Hmm… is he shirtless for the whole movie? I guess I may have to re-evaluate my “most guaranteed bomb ever” assessment of that movie if so….

I won’t at all be surprised to see an Elemental snub at this point. Too strong of a year, too negative of a PR image for Disney right now. Not a good combo

Better than a likely $1.5b+ profit from box office alone? I have doubts. Thats far from easy. Then again, I am thinking Joker and Beetlejuice are the two BO stories of the year and neither have break the bank budgets at all. So maybe.

I expected critics to be fairly nice to this, but will still be wildly surprised if fans love it.

The irony if this ends up one of the biggest box office hits of the year when at first it seemed like the most non-event first week of May summer starter ever. Also probably one of the few big budget non-sequels with a chance coming this year, so here’s hoping.

No? I’ve seen literally no one say that.

Yeah, and I was just talking about box office. The other revenues were surely gigantic as well. Granted, that marketing budget was a lot costlier than I think they will ever let the public know, but it still doesn’t matter. There’s almost no way they didn’t make over a bil profits from all lines of revenue on that movie.

They maybe lost in the 400m range from the big Flash, Shazam, Blue Beetle, and TCP bombs, but that’s not terrible at all when you consider the massive amount of profit they likely made this year. They may have made in the vicinity of $1b alone in Barbie profits and then add a solid $600+m or so in profits from their other hits I mentioned. Compare to Disney where it was one movie making maybe a $300m profit and everything else barely breaking even or bombing spectacularly and you see just how much of a win 2023 was for EB.

Lol at the narrative WB didn’t have a great year. DCEU had a terrible year, as was always inevitable. Take that out and WB had an amazing year, TCP cliff dive aside. Creed, Evil Dead, Meg , Nun, Wonka… all very profitable as far as the rest of their slate. And of course Barbie as likely one of the most profitable films ever off of box office alone easily gives them the W for the year. It’s also a far cry from the past decade of death for them, where they really had been struggling. Add to the fact that they very wisely are killing off the whole DCEU as it is and starting over, and to me their future looks a lot better atm than another major studio that shall remain earless.

So $25m budget for ABY? Wow, a responsible and logical budget for this kind of movie for once. Congrats to Sony for what’s sure to be a big win for them now.

I am curious what the demo split for Aquabro is looking like. Feel like females are carrying it (despite straight up rejecting The Marvels)

It’s insane ABY has a near 7.5x multi if they stop tracking it right now, and it kind of looks like its run is just starting. What are the 21st century wide opening multi records? It’s gotta be TGS #1 right? If we only look at Friday openers, is anything at 15x? Think ABY at least has a shot

What? Joker is not a “CBM” anymore than Taxi Driver, and BP only got the big cats off the basis of being culturally significant and historic for DEI (and having social political commentary). It would’ve been SOL with the Academy without those aspects. I fail to see how these examples somehow indicate they don’t have a major CBM bias? The Dark Knight not nommed for anything big as a film will forever be the most cringe Oscar snubs of all time, I doubt they can ever top that shame. Both IW and EG were deserving in BP fields of 10 as well. Especially IW, one of the most unconventional blockbusters we’ve ever seen that pulled it off perfectly and doesn’t even have to be a “part 1” if you want to look at it as its own thing. It works as its own thing almost better. Wonder Woman was also deserving of a lot more awards attention as well.

It’s purposely open to interpretation and can serve as an allegory for more than one thing. I’d say it’s meant to be far more personal about Miyazaki himself and the Ghibli empire than the movie industry at large though. Though some of it can perhaps be applied as commentary on the animation medium as a whole as well.

Aardman has a stellar Oscar nom track record in this cat though… and stop-motion in general does actually. I think the niche of Academy members who actually do really care about animation probably go crazy over the artistic element of stop-motion. I give it a higher chance than Nimona, Suzume, or TMNT tbh and about equal footing with Elemental, Mario, and Robot Dreams. So yeah, I can see it knocking one of those out to get in. Man what a race this year just to be nommed.

The lack of the movie igniting at the BO compared to how Opp took off huge really killed any awards race between them

I do think if there were a Barbie upset at Oscars, it’s getting both BD and BP. I don’t see those being split this year. Either all in on Barb or all in on Heimer imo

Idk about that last bit, but it has felt like Opp’s to take at the Oscars since it came out to me. Only recently have I been considering a Barbie upset, and funny enough I think it’s the only one that can now. It can have some pull with the Academy that the Globes largely don’t concern themselves with (in terms of trying to make a social commentary statement). But if not, Opp is getting the big ones.

Yeah that ties back to Oscars not going for sequels in this cat (or in general typically)