MovieMan89

29 is pretty great, I absolutely thought his was too audience capped to not be frontloaded

12 previews is the absolute best case scenario that could have ever happened here, and should be seen as a massive win. The insane reviews and box office desert likely helped a ton. As I’ve said over and over, this is a franchise that simply will not appeal to a huge GA 4 quad audience no matter what. There is a very definite cap with these movies. Now we wait and see how frontloaded it will or won’t be.

This is the grossest movie + director combo I can think of in a very long time. Please make it all stop

I can’t fathom any time and place where movies like Spotlight and Birdman really hit with the GA. They are the types of movies that have given the Oscars the modern rep that they only award movies most people don’t care about now. And it’s mostly true honestly, with the few exceptions of the ones mentioned.

Oh? You mean like the facts that they have one sequel prior to 2018 and 3 as of now? Out of 85 years? Or do you not understand what WDAS is?

I’ve said it already in depth so won’t again, but the key to WDAS 85 year success has been originality. They don’t really do sequels. Creative non-sequels is what gets them out of their rut every single time and this will be no exception.

The crazy part is it’s almost true if we’re talking about WDAS prior to this upcoming mess…

Incoming Encanto 2 and 3, Tangled 2 and Big Hero 7 announcements are imminent, and we are probably not getting out of this nightmare era without Moana 3 and Ralph 3 either

Have I not been saying they’re gonna shamelessly milk all the Revival movies now? Yep, here we go. Hope the lazy greed backfires so spectacularly for them they wish for the days of Wish.

This isn’t really the point though. While it’s true that the Oscar bait movies of old have fallen in less favor with the GA in the last 20 years, they still tended to be the kinds of movies that had a certain amount of inherent mainstream appeal. As opposed to what the Academy of the last 20 years loves to reward with the top prizes, the Crash, No Country, Spotlight, Birdman, Coda etc etc etc of the movie world that never stood a chance for major mainstream success under any time or place circumstances. The only BP winners since ROTK to really evoke the Academy of old’s tastes of dramas with notable mainstream appeal have been The Departed, Slumdog, The King’s Speech, and now Opp.

The Oscars were historically inclined to award a big box office hit BP all the way up until ROTK. That was when everything changed to the more “small movies” blueprint everyone associates them with today. Even A Beautiful Mind and Chicago right before ROTK were still huge box office hits that I think might both adjust over OPP DOM (haven’t done the math).

It would basically be the Oscar upset to end all upsets if this doesn’t win the big 2 at this point. ROTK is very easily the last time it has been so blatantly obvious what’s winning,

Wow at Migration hitting the 10x multi after all. Illumination really does seem flop proof. Hopefully ABY can crawl to the insane 15x mark.

Still going amazingly well at the BO all things considered. It’s going to forever irk me it’s gonna get so close yet so far to #2 anime DOM though lol

Very little impact from that in this stretch outside of the Dune delay. You can make an argument for this holiday feeling it more

It really doesn’t need to be said that NWH marks the start of “normalcy” again at the BO at this point does it? That holiday was definitely still impacted by Covid. The massive NWH OW and the start of that new year is when Covid finally started to be a non-entity on BO again. Though still arguably not full out of the picture until that summer.

This is truly the worst November through February box office slate of all time (I hope I don’t have to keep asterisking things like this with not counting Covid since that should be assumed).

Love the title and the poster. Definitely continuing to get good feelings about this

Hated? Nah, it’s waaaaay too safe and rooted in nostalgia for the GA to hate it. I don’t even say I “hate it”, but holy shit was it lazy. Exacerbated by the fact that Bird went on and on for years about how it would only happen when the “idea was there” only to make the most blatant cash grab after all that time. He should just kept fending off the Disney calls until really ready, it had already been so long as it was.

500-600 WW imo. High end would be a huge win. My range would be nearly 100 lower if it wasn’t such a box office famine, you’d think that will help at least a little

Wall-E in 2024 probably would’ve caused a decent amount of the American public to internally combust in outrage lol, so yeah maybe they will leave that one alone. Plenty of people do love Wall-E though and he is way up there in “cute” marketability factor among all their characters. I wouldn’t be shocked with a green lit sequel that plays up that aspect and ignores all of the mature and interesting themes of the first (ugh).

Also… Rata2ouille markets itself… you know the out of touch execs are probably salivating at that lol

Should not… I’d hold off on will not until we see how desperate Disney will get if fortunes don’t turn at the box office… I3 is a necessity though for the sheer fact that there were a million interesting ways to go with sequels and they chose to completely rehash the first movie, literally the worst and most pointless option they could’ve taken. We deserve a real incredibles sequel

For some reason this thread took me to page 10 when I clicked, in 2017, and everyone in here was doom and glooming and talking about what a mess Paramount was even then. As I’ve said before, their acquisition has been a very long time coming