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Btw, Queso's design was a shameless rip off of this infinitely more lovable and meticulously developed character:

Lol, BO's just not going to give into Sing over 200 I guess. Batman is also painfully low.

Lol, 150m would be that real tense mark for me about the club since I think it will go 2.9-3x off of an OW in that vicinity.

Nah, 150m leaves room for us. I'll believe a 3x+ multi for this film when I see it.

For real though, this same weekend was arguably the second most impressive hold of Frozen's whole run, and Moana keeping up with that would just be insane. 300 could in fact be back in play.

Holy shit, if Moana only drops 20% this weekend then R1 can fucking hit 300 for all I care. Everything is right with the world. Already out of likes.

Oh lordy, 70 OD would put Baumer's club too far in the danger zone for my liking. EDIT: Lmfao, I just noticed after posting Tele said oh lordy a few posts above, which is something I never say in the first place.

Would be fitting for E8 to do right around 800 and E9 right around 900.

I don't like him either. But I just think he's overrated, I don't outright hate his films like you know who.

I would assume the trilogy would follow the typical SW pattern (and the typical pattern of most trilogies actually) in the middle being the lowest grossing. So I'd expect IX to be the one to maybe come close-ish, assuming VIII isn't divisive.

Who woulda thought Bourne would be one of only two if you take out CBMs? Tarzan probably shouldn't be rotten, don't really know what was up with that low.

Well that would certainly make the club an exciting fight to the end.

I meant about OWs. Most in Baumer's club were saying 120-135, and most out were saying 155-175.

That would be good, and basically smack dab in between where those of us in Baumer's club and those of us out of Baumer's club were arguing. So not sure which side gets bragging rights on that number. Super early though obviously.

While it's true I don't personally know Edwards and thereby can't know his intent for sure, that is how his filmmaking makes his intent come off to me.

Totally there with you on that. And whatever R1 opens to, you can probably tack 30-50m on if it were summer as well.

Oh come on Tele, don't pretend you haven't gone on similar rants about what kind of filmmaker Trevorrow is. I'm not saying you or anyone else has to agree with me on Edwards, but what I said in that comment is in fact my opinion of him as a filmmaker.

He needs to be trying to be the next Aronofsky, not the next Spielberg. Not that I think he's 1/10th as talented as Aronofsky, but that style of fillmmaking would at least suit him infinitely better.

This was the problem with so many here. They treated sub 450m as some kind of colossal failure for R1, when in reality it's an insane number for a spin off. This never was a mainline Star Wars film.

He's just despicable as a director, sucking the life out of every frame he touches with his sour and dour style of film-making. He wants nothing to happen in as long of his films' runtime as possible out of some kind of misguided notion that it elevates his films when the third act "payoff" comes around. It exposes a total ambivalence towards the medium of feature length filmmaking. He wants to make 10-15% of a film and not have to be bothered with the remainder of it. The soulless characters that inhabit his barren muted worlds only serve to highlight his obviously bleak world viewpoint, as it seeps through the screen like toxic waste, draining any sense of entertainment value out of the Hollywood blockbuster.

It's false. All of it.

Yeah the original was fun. Just like with Godzilla '14 though, Edwards had to go and ruin this reboot.

Rebellions are built on nope. Join the Empire. You know about the cookies.

Godzilla in Space certainly isn't the good one in this comparison.

But the lower than expected previews already support what some of us were arguing about this lacking much casual appeal. Please tell me a situation where the Star Wars fanbase was ever letting the previews dip below 25m? That just wasn't happening. It could make 90m for the weekend and it was still guaranteed to make 25m+ in previews. Star Wars really needs to be pulling around 40m in previews in this day and age for it to be a huge number for the franchise. Now it could turn out to be nowhere near as preview frontloaded as TFA, but being a part of this franchise doesn't put the odds in favor of that. This movie should in theory be more niche and thereby more preview frontloaded.