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2 minutes ago, Nova said:
Who is calling this movie a flop? No one is calling the movie a flop. However you're in denial if you don't think this movie hasn't lived up to expectations...not expectations set by us mind you but expectations set by people within the industry including WB. It's going to get $850M WW and as result it's run has been disappointing when you consider it has three of the most iconic super heroes in it, it opened to $420M WW and the amount of money used to market it. Flop it is not but I wouldn't call it a success either.
Listen to this guy, he's got the championship glow.
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1 minute ago, Jay Hollywood said:Its going to make money, sure. But if you are going to tell me WB didn't expect to clear a billion with ease you are tripping hard. Its a huge disappointment no way around it.
Remember the BvS over TFA people a year ago?
Plus the GA has rejected it the last two weeks, I feel like the significance of that gets understated because the common counter is that it's profitable and opened huge on OW. The point is this wasn't supposed to be a Twilight like BO run & even that maybe generous.
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1 minute ago, La Binoche said:
It wouldn't call $29m before P&A "pennies."
You wouldn't? Not exactly notable in the film biz even for a comedy.
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I'll be nice and say this gets to $330m right at a 2 multiplier, How acceptable is BVS doing only $30m, $51m, $63m adjusted more than MOS, BB, Superman Returns domestically? There is zero question Returns will be a worse ROI based on its puny OS total relative to how it is now a decade later in certain markets (same with BB) and massive budget but for it to be within 20% of BvS is legit shocking.
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1 minute ago, Water Bottle said:
There were some who saw the bad legs months ahead of release. Like me who predicted terrible legs months ago.
Yep that's exactly what I meant, nice going man.
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Just now, babz06 said:
Yeah its pretty transparent of Deadline. The Boss continues Mccarthy's reign as a box office star, it cost pennies to make and the studio is quite happy.
In fairness most if not all comedies cost pennies to make relative to other studio genres.
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Just now, #ED said:
Well they're not making moves because it's still making money. This movie needed to completely tank for a change.
It was never going to tank to the level this movie wasn't profitable, that's my frustration with that argument. Expectations & profitability are two completely different angles to the story.
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1 minute ago, #ED said:
I was one of the first to see it. I'm very lenient on comic book films but I knew right away this wasn't for everyone.
With that said, 900M WW isn't what WB wanted but I'm sure they will take it.
ED can we stop with the "WB will take it" nonsense? Every person knew this was going to gross some huge number. If it didn't can you imagine the panic? The point is the legs post the global opening have to worry WB when they are trying to build a whole universe off of it.
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1 minute ago, Rman823 said:
I always thought seeing these characters together would lead to a front loaded OW. Just not this front loaded. Reviews and WOM didn't help.
There were quite a few on here (non fanboys) who saw this having crummy legs pre release. Can't remember anyone credible arguing for a less than 2 multiplier. This likely isn't beating Superman 2 and/or Batman Returns adjusted after opening to $166m lol. Enough said.
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Who had BvS holding slightly above a horror flick?
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Amazing to go from $54.3m (OD ex previews) to $15m to $6m Friday in 2 full weeks. So many posts I want to like/bump from OW & before. The positive spin on this is cute.
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1 hour ago, leatherjacket said:
Source tells me
#BatmanvSuperman heading to 3rd wknd drop of 60% to about $20M. Cume to reach $293M after SUN. May not hit $340M.Hilarious, & Time Warner's stock did fine the past week.
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7 minutes ago, Telemachos said:
Sure, in the context of our expectations, both before the OW and after. And of course BVS is having a disappointing BO run, much like TASM, actually. But in terms of just the sheer numbers, 800m is still a lot of money. (And 50m for a second weekend is a lot of money too... it's just not enough when you're expected to be an absolutely huge tentpole).
Context matters, 600m is a lot too but everyone would consider that a massive WW failure. Even $1b WW isn't what it used to be due to inflation so let's try to temper the rhetoric on calling all the numbers "big." This was always supposed to (in a vacuum) do big numbers compared to your average studio film but relative to its genre/peers based on the opening & holds its been very meh to even bad I think we can agree there. Doing $50m more domestic than MOS with Batman, WW etc on a sheer optics standpoint tells you a lot.
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Tele this second weekend & Monday wasn't large, not to nitpick but let's be real here. Expectations before the movie were/are a real thing lol.
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10 minutes ago, #ED said:
Zootopia fell -70% from last Monday.
You mean it fell 70% lol
but could give us some perspective on the Easter Monday effect.
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It's amazing to me that Superman 2 & Batman Returns adjusted have a decent shot of beating BvS.
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Just now, Orestes said:
Is Rth immortal? Are his methods supernatural?
Look at how quotable Nolan's Batman is... So much better than any other attempt.
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3 minutes ago, Emirazza said:
Where does Rth work? How is he getting all these numbers so easily?
Didnt know God had a job...
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Anyone notice the usual pro BvS contingent is awfully quiet the last few days?
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12 minutes ago, Sir Tiki said:
This is huge news, stock is down a couple percent AH. Why is he leaving is a major mystery, how do you walk away from the keys to the kingdom?
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Lets clear this up too, good holds does not= competition from new openers. I think that's pretty easy to understand, the difference in what MOS was up against vs BvS is obviously night and day.
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A lot of positives this weekend outside of the horror from #1, Zootopia, 10CL, Deadpool hell even MBFGW2 all had really nice holds.
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57 minutes ago, Lordmandeep said:
Rotten Tomatoes is at 302 reviews.... and....
Beats TF2 Long standing record of 196 Rotten Reviews
You have a man crush on Zack, that's all I got.
but could give us some perspective on the Easter Monday effect.
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WEEKEND ESTIMATES: 23.48 M THE BOSS | 23.44 M BVS: DOJ | 14.35 M ZOOTOPIA | 5.10 M HARDCORE HENRY
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Best post after an unlock I've ever seen, a million stars.