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  1. Well, seeing that I have finally learnt to post this kind of charts (thank you @TalismanRing ), I post here the top 100 of all time unadjusted. Infinty War ranks already #66, but it still should be able to jump to #40s with maybe €21m
  2. Weekend May 11-13 Edit: just trying to give data in a more clear way, but I see it seems a bit small. It will be bigger next time.
  3. I think that, at least, Jurassic Park, E.T, The Lion King or Star Wars would be in that list. But we do not have reliable data of every European country. Just some of them: Lion King: France+Germany+Italy+Spain: 33 million admissions Jurassic Park: France+Germany+Spain: 22 million E.T: France+Germany+Spain: 25.9 million Star Wars: France+Germany+Italy+Spain: 26.7 million admissions And UK was big for all of those films for sure, but there are not admissions data available, just estimations.
  4. I guess you like the gap of admissions with Avatar. And since you like to take Avatar WW gross as an unit: Europe admissions (A=89,868,084 admissions of Avatar in Europe) FOTR = 0.68A HP1 = 0.67A ROTK = 0.62A TTT = 0.62A HP2 = 0.59A Worldwide gross: (A=2.788b dollars of Avatar worldwide) FOTR = 0.31A HP1 = 0.35A ROTK = 0.40A TTT = 0.33A HP2 = 0.31A Europe admissions just show that the distance between Avatar and the next ones in Europe is way lower than grosses say. You should be more grateful to inflation, 3D, ER or other parts of the world, not specially to Europe admissions.
  5. That is the key. Recent successes like Jurassic World, Furious, MCU or Star Wars have an obvious advantage thanks to their big huge numbers in China or Latin America. Any advantage that Harry Potter, LOTR or older franchises could take in Europe, Japan or Australia, are hugely compensated with China, Brazil and Mexico. The best example is Wolf Warrior 2. With basically one market, it ranks #16. And it has not reached $900m. But that only market has sold 3 times what HP1, HP2 or LOTR did in whole Europe. Another thing is if you exclude certain markets, but that would not be fair either. Where we can put the limit? It is really difficult. It is obvious that expanding markets, specially China, distorts any possible global comparison.
  6. Correct me if I am wrong, but I guess that Titanic should be in top 40, just over Dangal. There are some sources (I take BOM) which say that Titanic did $43.9m in China during 1998 release. Applying a 8.27 ER (April 1st, 1998), it equates to 363.3m Yuan. Adding it to the 946.1m Yuan grossed during 2012 3D re-release, it sums 1.309b Yuan (of course, it is approximate since I have applied the release date ER and the data from BOM could not be exact).
  7. I have not been able to look at the list until now. For the moment, 6 films of my list are on the top 100. Love to see La la land, since musical is not the favorite genre on this forums. And pleasantly surprised to see Grave of the fireflies. Extremely hard and sad film, but necessary. Concerning latest entries, Heat and Psycho are in my top 30. And I do not have any MCU on my list, but Winter Soldier is absolutely great, very close to my favorite, which is the first Guardians. Glad to see it here. But to see Avatar over Blade Runner...
  8. Just to remember that Ultron did 1.464b. IW will have outgrossed it after 5 days+presales of 6th day. Not bad, I guess
  9. That is the key. You can not analyze numbers with feelings. Numbers are numbers, independently of some personal tastes. Myself prefer DC over Marvel, but I would never try to hide the fact of the huge IW China opening just because a certain forum has overpredicted it. In that sense, we can remember then the 1 billion predictions for Justice League not so long ago... And to note that the person who gave the 230-270 opening range has never shown a Marvel fanboyism. At least, I do not remember any post in that sense.
  10. Sure. Just saying that Chinese audience have already shown that they like good films too. Not just bad ones. Like every other country in the world. I say this from a country which sold 20 million admissions for LOTR and 14 million for Twilight franchise. Good/bad taste is universal.
  11. Great films like Zootopia did $235m and Coco $190m in China... And they can gross $200m for a very well considered Indian film like Dangal (92% in RT). This is an unfair debate. Sometimes it seems that Chinese people are the only who watch mediocre films or franchises... Those "bad" franchises are made in USA, not in China. And they are able to make tons of money everywhere, not just in China. 2 examples: The last 2 Furious films grossed $2.05b outside China combined. And Transformers has 3 films over $300m in USA.
  12. I do not know if this has been said: $200m = 1.268b Yuan (6.34 ER) Cume adding Sunday presales: 1.064b. So it needs to do 204m more to not be the biggest disappointment ever... it seems
  13. Pretty agree. What happened two weeks ago, after knowing midnights in US? and later OD? OW was dead. What happened at the end? Just a few had been able to match the correct result even being all of us way more "experts" about the US market. Chinese market is developing and expanding continuously and the models are not stable enough to give an accurate prediction in such monstruous openings like this. I have been following presales thread from the beginning and I will continue doing it. It gives fun, knowledge and RESPECT, something sadly lost during last days. I guess it will happen with every so-fan-driven film like IW.
  14. Thank you, @fabiopazzo2 (out of likes) So presales for Saturday already 10m bigger than for F8 with nearly 4,5 hours to go.
  15. Already 168m in presales for Saturday and 67m for Sunday. I do not know how to measure it...
  16. There are only 3 Hollywood films over $300m until now: F8: 2.670b ($421m with today ER) F7: 2.427b ($382m with today ER) TF4: 1.977b ($312m with today ER) It would be great to get 2 more in barely 1 month. IW is done and JW2 should get it. JW had very good WOM.
  17. It is updated continuously: http://piaofang.maoyan.com/dashboard I wish we had this system everywhere.
  18. 4th-6th May: #. Film: Weekend gross (Total Gross) | Weekend admissions (Total Admissions) - Weekend (Drop) 1. Infinity War: €2,473,569 (€14,253,918) | 358,090 adm (2,154,442) - 2nd wknd (-64%) 2. Campeones: €997,940 (€11,557,183) | 148,666 adm (1,846,011) - 5th wknd (-38%) 3. A quiet place: €235,312 (€2,045,913) | 34,212 adm (317,627) - 3rd wknd (-51%) 4. 12 Strong: €205,394 (€205,394) | 30,739 adm (30,739) - NEW 5. Blockers: €195,144 (€195,144) | 28,685 adm (28,685) - NEW 6. Peter Rabbit: €167,823 (€7,106,743) | 26,904 adm (1,188,908) - 7th wknd (-44%) 7. Game night: €157,730 (€828,663) | 22,405 adm (121,769) - 2nd wknd (-57%) 8. Mi querida cofradía: €121,158 (€121,158) | 18,092 adm (18,092) - NEW 9. Midnight Sun: €113,337 (€113,337) | 16,957 adm (16,957) - NEW 10. Roman J. Israel, Esq: €100,417 (€100,417) | 14,919 adm (14,919) - NEW Fiesta del Cine (May 2018): 1,648,638 admissions. On par to recent editions. I do not still have data by film, but Infinity War has been the most attended film. It should already be the biggest MCU film over TA, both in gross and admissions.
  19. It is better to not pay attention to absurd comments
  20. Higher than that. There is a chance of beating the domestic opening.
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