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  1. Yes, Superman is still the most attended SH film ever. Concerning SW, you are right that ESB and ROTJ dropped a lot relative to ANH, but that happened in many countries too. TPM and TFA behaviour was similar to other Western countries, with 6 and 5 million admissions, respectively. Indy is really popular, but a step behind SW. The films sold between 3 and 4 million admissions. And yes, Bond is not as popular here as other European countries, mostly the northern ones. But to say that Connery Bond was the biggest franchise when Connery starred is a bit strange... how many active franchises there were during 60s? I love Connery's Bond but it had no competition in that sense On the other hand, the most popular franchise remains to be the Middle Earth saga, with LOTR trilogy among the all time top 11 both unadjusted and admissions (TTT ranks #11 in both rankings).
  2. Translating pesetas figures to euro: Doctor Zhivago: €1,223,926 The Godfather: €1,251,942 The Towering Inferno: €1,496,096 Jaws: €2,364,029 Star Wars: €3,075,132 Superman: €4,176,568 E.T: €10,879,993 Basic Instinct: €12,991,148 Jurassic Park: €17,398,379 The Lion King: €18,556,272
  3. Ocho apellidos is the saga with the best average per film. MCU averages €8.77m per film. Ocho apellidos, €45.5m
  4. This. To put into perspective, and if my data are accurate, this is the evolution of the top grosser holder in Spain: 1982: E.T (€11.6m - Today at €13.4m because of 20th anniversary re-release) 1992: Beauty & the beast (€14.7m) 1993: Jurassic Park (€17.7m) 1994: The Lion King (€19m - Today at €20.4m because 2012 3D re-release) 1998: Titanic (€38m - Today at €41m because of 2012 3D re-release) 2009: Avatar (€74m - Today at €77m because of 2010 Special edition) Avatar will be maybe beaten by 2100
  5. Understanding what you mean, DOM Titanic ranks #7 and The Lion King #29. I do not see the problem. Titanic remains to be the most attended film ever, and The Lion King ranks #15 among the most attended. Maybe a few tickets were missed in the past, but data seem quite accurate and fit with the behaviour from other markets "more advanced".
  6. Yes, nearly locked. IMO, the target is already €26m.
  7. Sure. Data are taken from Ministry of Culture. You can trust it. Edit: I had not realized that your link is in English. This link is in Spanish and it has more updated data (HP1 and LOTR re-releases, for example, are included). If you do not understand something, ask here Edit 2: This is the list of the most attended films ever
  8. This. I have followed several CNY weeks and the film which was expected to be the biggest film of the week has been surpassed by another film at the end. There are 2 obvious cases: Monster Hunt 2, which was widely outgrossed by Operation red sea and DC2 in 2018, and DC3, outgrossed by Hi, mom last year. I do not doubt this can be a must see among Chinese people, but to asume the must see factor will be enough to make $900m again is risky. Concerning Maoyan anticipated audience, the 340k figure of this sequel do not tell me too much. DC3, if I remember well, was over 1 million last year before release.
  9. I am thinking the same. I do not doubt about the potential of this sequel but I would not lock any number. The OW will probably be gigantic, but the same happened with DC3 last year, and it did not even win the CNY, but Hi, mom did. Let's wait to see the reception of the films released. There are always surprises along CNY period.
  10. I agree that €26m are possible. In fact, I see it probable. It just needs €2.7m from a €1.5m weekend and even if it has been bloated because of late holidays, it is not a crazy amount to get. If this next weekend drop is under 50%, I could see €26.5m, what would mean to rank #20 among top grossers of all time.
  11. I see hard those late records (3rd weekend and beyond) can be beaten for any Chinese film unless it is that kind of run (each time more uncommon) with superb legs as there used to be some years ago. On the other hand, I see impossible that DOM market can recover the OW record again. Chinese films can be even more frontloaded than in USA (DC3 did not reach x2 multiplier). I will not be surprised if we see a $500m OW soon from China and unless DC and Marvel make a crossover, I do not see any film with that potential in USA.
  12. We could have a debate about what we consider an OW. Spain has always opened on Friday and just a bunch of films have opened on Wednesday or Thursday. The official weekend is Friday-Sunday, and in that period, Endgame grossed €10.3m, which is still the all time record. The €12m cume is for 4 days. I do not see fair to compare a Thursday opening with a Friday opening. In the same way, LOTR had 5-day openings and, for example, we never consider the €8.3m 5-day cume of ROTK as the OW figure, but €5.9m, which was what it grossed during Fri-Sun period. As the 2nd weekend, I have Avatar with €8.1m. The other weekends data fit with data we have access to. Anyway, thank you very much for the info.
  13. TDK is a Batman film with Joker being the villain. Joker is a drama film talking about mental diseases. It is not the kind of film that makes 1 billion, not even close. At least, I did not see it coming.
  14. It is not uncommon to see this kind of runs. SW7 opened to €8.4m and it had a x4 multiplier. In fact, NWH will have a similar multiplier to EG, and EG did not have the Christmas boost.
  15. Not sure about €26m, but €25m seem very probable
  16. I did not expect even $500m for Joker. I have been following BO for 20 years and it is, maybe next to Avatar and Bohemian Rhapsody, the most shocking result I have ever seen. I think today people, precisely because of Covid, want to see something funnier or more colorful (just my feeling). I am really excited about this film. I want SH genre can make different things beyond MCU formula and this film seems different for sure. But if it makes a billion I will be shocked.
  17. Same here. I wish it could beat NWH, but to think in magical numbers being a so dark film is absurd. 300-350 DOM and 700-750 WW would be a very good result.
  18. There are not Russian data, but here you have the ranking in admissions in many countries since Titanic was released: https://www.insidekino.de/BO/Titanic.htm And the same since Avatar was released (I think this one is more accurate for certain films): https://www.insidekino.de/BO/Avatar.htm
  19. It still has this holiday week. Heading to about €25m. 3rd biggest SH film ever (unadjusted), behind Joker (€30m) and Endgame (€28m). And over SM1 (€22.67m), still the biggest Spidey film adjusted (5.26m admissions).
  20. Within 2 months we will be in a valley of covid evolution. That for sure.
  21. I am very conscious about the inflation, but taking into account the reasons I gave before, I find it a reasonable result. I insist that I wish it could make way bigger numbers. The film looks amazing, but the tone does not seem very friendly. It does not fit with the formula which guarantees the success today, and that can hurt its final result. Colorful and funny SH films are today bigger, and this is not one of them.
  22. Joker was a rare phenomenon. I would not take it as a fair comparison. Let's remember that TDK did barely over 450m OS without China. And TDKR did not reach 600m OS without China being the sequel of the best SH film ever and the end of the trilogy. This is a reboot. And it looks really dark and depressing when today people seem to prefer colors and jokes.
  23. I am seeing extremely huge predictions here. I do not see those +500m OS. Although the release date is very good since this covid wave will probably be over by then, this is a new reboot of the character. This is by far my favorite SH character and I wish it could make tons of money to take back the throne, but to be a so dark film it is not definitely a pro. I would be satisfied with 300 DOM+400 OS-C
  24. I am not following very closely this, but I am a bit confused: wasn't the OW OS of about $340m? A $121m 2nd weekend means a 64% drop, not under 50%. Anyway, understandable since Friday has been a deflated day in many countries.
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