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[Neo]

Jim was talking about 60fps years ago, but right now it seems like he is got to go with PJ's 48fps. The problem is that, Jim and Fox fears that if they shot AVATAR sequels at 60fps, there's no clean way to play the movie at 24fps in some theaters! Simply they think 60fps could be too much of a gamble.

Like for Avatar theaters were scrambling for 3D screens, I think if Cameron announces soon he will shoot in 60 fps, theaters will make the adjustments. They have 3 years to do so.

[Dilusha Bandara]

Like for Avatar theaters were scrambling for 3D screens, I think if Cameron announces soon he will shoot in 60 fps, theaters will make the adjustments. They have 3 years to do so.

The problem is, that the current playback gear can't do 450 Mb/s at 60 fps. But the gear manufacturers say they can do at 500 Mb/s, but the studios in reality have to settle for less, due to the bit-rate bottlenecks in various systems.

[Elessar]

The big jump was from 24 to 48, 60 wouldn't be much of a difference.

[Shawn Robbins]

HFR isn't the way to go right now, IMO.

[fishstick]

Eh, 3D wasn't the way to go while it was only cheap horror movie gimmick. HFR has potential.

[Elessar]

HFR is awesome for 3D.

[Dilusha Bandara]

The big jump was from 24 to 48, 60 wouldn't be much of a difference.

Oh you have no idea, Its a hard thing to deal with, harder than Hobbit. WB had some serious issues with 48fps, but 60fps is a real risk for Fox.

[Elessar]

I mean in terms of picture / movement quality.

[Shawn Robbins]

The problem is the amount of division over 48 FPS. There's a reason WB stayed mum about the box office returns for Hobbit in HFR, after all. On the flip side, they're giving it another shot in December. I just don't think audiences are going to embrace HFR the way some of these guys are hoping. Not anytime soon, at least. Maybe with non-feature films.

 

Filmmakers can keep trying to fix/improve the technology as much as they want, but it's only a band-aid on a larger problem. I'm all for pushing innovation with movies that call for it, don't get me wrong, but it shouldn't be the focus.

Edited August 10, 2013 by ShawnMR

[Dilusha Bandara]

HFR isn't the way to go right now, IMO.

But Doug Trumbull is trying to make a space adventure like Odyssey, in 120fps 3D!

[Elessar]

But Doug Trumbull is trying to make a space adventure like Odyssey, in 120fps 3D!

 

I dunno why. Going any higher than 60fps is like showing off with no real benefits.

[Dilusha Bandara]

The problem is the amount of division over 48 FPS. There's a reason WB stayed mum about the box office returns for Hobbit in HFR, after all. On the flip side, they're giving it another shot in December. I just don't think audiences are going to embrace HFR the way some of these guys are hoping. Not anytime soon, at least. Maybe with non-feature films.

 

Filmmakers can keep trying to fix/improve the technology as much as they want, but it's only a band-aid on a larger problem. I'm all for pushing innovation with movies that call for it, don't get me wrong, but it shouldn't be the focus.

48fps didn't work for middle earth, yes, but it might work with AVATAR .

[Dilusha Bandara]

I dunno why. Going any higher than 60fps is like showing off with no real benefits.

He thinks its gonna work with such a space adventure, from his words it'll look like a window to another universe!

[Elessar]

48fps didn't work for middle earth, yes, but it might work with AVATAR .

 

 

Well, it did as far as i'm concerned.

Edited August 10, 2013 by Elessar

[Elessar]

He thinks its gonna work with such a space adventure, from his words it'll look like a window to another universe!

 

As opposed to a window to our universe that is 48fps.

Edited August 10, 2013 by Elessar

[Dilusha Bandara]

As opposed to a window in our universe that was 48fps.

As Doug is so old, he might be a nutcase  , but You know he is the master! He is the great one!  

[Elessar]

Btw, it's quite remarkable how much picture you can get for a few hundred bucks (well, Euros) nowadays. I didn't want to spend a fortune on the TV as it's mainly for playing games. I'm planing to buy a 3D projector rather soonish (in time for the Hobbit extended edition) - that's the real deal . 

Edited August 10, 2013 by Elessar

[Dilusha Bandara]

Btw, it's quite remarkable how much picture you can get for a few hundred bucks (well, Euros) nowadays. I didn't want to spend a fortune on the TV as it's mainly for playing games. I'm about to buy a 3D projector rather soonish for the real deal (in time for the Hobbit extended edition). 

[Dilusha Bandara]

WETA will win 3 oscars in 3 years consecutively!!! just like in 2001,2002 and 2003!  They're simply phenomenal !!!

 

[fishstick]

The problem is the amount of division over 48 FPS. There's a reason WB stayed mum about the box office returns for Hobbit in HFR, after all.

 

Wrong movie for HFR. I really liked HFR but it's fantastic only for digital sets and creatures, which is what Avatar is. Seriously, if Cameorn shoots it in HFR it's going to be insane.Like unbelievably insane.

Edited August 10, 2013 by fishnets