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Early Friday Numbers (The Lorax - 17.5M; Project X - 8.2M)

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It may not end up where the tracking indicates, we know it's nowhere near a sure thing, but I'm just saying if it opens very low nobody could say there weren't signs. I'm just being realistic. I never would have thought that after all of the money that Disney have thrown at the marketing that tracking would go down from where it was 2 weeks before. I expected it to jump and now I don't know what to think.The only film it was tracking above was Silent House, it's a week out and it cost more than 250M to make. What do you want me to say? That's it's going to open to 80M and make 1B worldwide? I can if you'd like.

No, it would be better if you shut up about this movie like you know with certain comfirmation it would fail.
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That's fine, but you mentioned it with no provocation. You are needlessly negative about John Carter and it's tiring to see it in every thread.

How is it needless? Other people in this thread have already mentioned JC's numbers for next weekend. The film cost 250M and may not open to even a tenth of that. It could be one of the biggest bombs in a long time. Box office news doesn't get much bigger than that. If you think this is bad you should have seen the people talking about Green Lantern last year. Edited by Magic
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How is it needless? Other people in this thread have already mentioned JC's numbers for next weekend. The film cost 250M and may not open to even a tenth of that. It could be one of the biggest bombs in a long time. Box office news doesn't get much bigger than that. If you think this is bad you should have seen the people talking about Green Lantern last year.

Your negativity is getting worse by every post about this movie. How the hell do you compare GL with this movie, there are so many different things about this movies. People outright knew GL was going to be dissapointing in every aspect of the movie, not just it's boxoffice gross. This one everyone by now knows it will be 10 times better than GL, but the marketing haven't lived up to the expectations and that won't mean much if every damn movie is breaking out in this year so far.
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How is it needless? Other people in this thread have already mentioned JC's numbers for next weekend. The film cost 250M and may not open to even a tenth of that. It could be one of the biggest bombs in a long time. Box office news doesn't get much bigger than that. If you think this is bad you should have seen the people talking about Green Lantern last year.

It's all you talk about! Every day I come here, I know for sure I'm going to see you talking about how this is going to fail. It's your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it, but you don't realize how annoying it can be. You're clearly rooting for its failure, and that's what makes your constant remarks about Carter's certain crash so unappealing.
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Your negativity is getting worse by every post about this movie. How the hell do you compare GL with this movie, there are so many different things about this movies. People outright knew GL was going to be dissapointing in every aspect of the movie, not just it's boxoffice gross. This one everyone by now knows it will be 10 times better than GL, but the marketing haven't lived up to the expectations and that won't mean much if every damn movie is breaking out in this year so far.

JC might be the greatest movie ever, but that's irrelevant to how it will perform on OW, and tracking suggests it will open poorly.
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Heaps of people on this site talk every day about The Hunger Games opening weekend because the signs are there for a breakout and big breakouts are big news. I haven't talked about John Carter's opening more than THG. It's about the same or probably more even about THG. It's just with basically no signs pointing to a breakout it's at the other end of the scale. A huge potential breakout or potential bombs are both as big news box office-wide as one another. People in THG thread talk about the opening every single day. That's basically all that's discussed in there. None of the Hunger games fans are called "annoying" for constantly talking about how big they think the film will be because there are signs of a breakout and it's "positive' but if you talk about JC it's "negative" so it's "annoying". Hunger Games fans have basically been saying the same things over and over again and the thread is like a revolving door because it's big news and there isn't much else to talk about.You are allowed to say the same thing over and over if it's positive but not the other way around because that's annoying and it's trolling. Have I bashed the story? Bashed Stanton? Bashed Kitsch? Abused anyone in the threads for supporting the film? The only things I've been negative about are the marketing and the tracking. I'm just talking about the indicators that we have for the films box office performance so far which these forums are supposed to be about. I wouldn't be so negative if the tracking had actually improved but it didn't. I probably say the same stuff because I'm bored and there is little else to say but I've talking heaps about THG (as have many others) all the time and I've never been called annoying for doing that. If people here have double standards then I won't discuss John Carter again.

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Heaps of people on this site talk every day about The Hunger Games opening weekend because the signs are there for a breakout and big breakouts are big news. I haven't talked about John Carter's opening more than THG. It's about the same or probably more even about THG. It's just with basically no signs pointing to a breakout it's at the other end of the scale. A huge potential breakout or potential bombs are both as big news box office-wide as one another. People in THG thread talk about the opening every single day. That's basically all that's discussed in there. None of the Hunger games fans are called "annoying" for constantly talking about how big they think the film will be because there are signs of a breakout and it's "positive' but if you talk about JC it's "negative" so it's "annoying". Hunger Games fans have basically been saying the same things over and over again and the thread is like a revolving door because it's big news and there isn't much else to talk about.You are allowed to say the same thing over and over if it's positive but not the other way around because that's annoying and it's trolling. Have I bashed the story? Bashed Stanton? Bashed Kitsch? Abused anyone in the threads for supporting the film? The only things I've been negative about are the marketing and the tracking. I'm just talking about the indicators that we have for the films box office performance so far. I wouldn't be so negative if the tracking had actually improved but it didn't. I probably say the same stuff because I'm bored and there is little else to say but I've talking heaps about THG (as have many others) all the time and I've never been called annoying for doing that. If people here have double standards then I won't discuss John Carter again.

It's just as annoying when people constantly talk a film up. Those who talk incessantly about Hunger Games are definitely guilty of being irritating. What's different is you always insert your negative view on Carter when the situation doesn't call for it (this thread). You say it's relevant, but when you've stated the same opinion over a hundred times in every other thread, it loses its power. You talking about something so much just shows you have an agenda. You want everybody to know how poor the tracking is for Carter. You are the Prophet of Carter. Edited by RichWS
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Am I the prophet of THG too?Most of the time I talk about JC in the JC thread or tracking thread. Most of the time I haven't mentioned it outside of those two threads.

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It's just as annoying when people constantly talk a film up. Those who talk incessantly about Hunger Games are definitely guilty of being irritating.

Those are definitely the most irritating. You can't say a bad thing about THG cos they get mad very quickly.Even though i'm a JC supporter i don't mind Magic. He(?) bring up good points to the discussion and is not obsessed with posting the latest lame news about THG...like about the make-up collection. lol
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I mentioned THG in this thread today which isn't directly relevant and yet you liked my post. Hypocritical much?

I don't know why I'm continuing this, but I've been talking specifically about you posting how big of a disaster John Carter will be.You brought up Hunger Games, not me. Edited by RichWS
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I don't know why I'm continuing this, but I've been talking specifically about you posting how big of a disaster John Carter will be.You brought up Hunger Games, not me.

You like one post and complain about another and it's basically the same thing. You are just being selective. Edited by Magic
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This is a box office discussion site. What the hell? Magic is discussing box office. If it's a negative take it's a negative take. You guys act like if he's quiet about it the movie will do well. He hasn't done anything wrong. The movie has fallen below the grid. It may change next week just like Lorax but right now tracking is in the crapper.

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