charlie Jatinder Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 22 hours ago, Agafin said: Ok I've seen your numbers been shared on Reddit (specifically, those showing TFA doing only $840m in the US) and after done fast research and I'm pretty much certain that your Canadian numbers (specifically the currency) are off. I'll repost my post from reddit (with relevant sources): I think we've had this argument on BOT already, but I reiterate, your US numbers are off. You seem to have the Canadian and US dollar mixed up. For example, TFA didn't do US$97m as your graph is implying (that would have been a ridiculous overperformance). It did C$91.9m(source). I've cross-checked the source against one of the mainstream trades to verify its accuracy and it seems to hold up. This Hollywood Reporter article has it grossing C$58.1m in 2015 calendar year which when added to the C$33.8m 2016 calendar gross from above gives us the same total gross. Using the exchange rate from that HR article, the US$ gross for the entire run of TFA in Canada would be $65m and so the US only number is US$872m. I assume you've made the same mistake for the Endgame and NWH (I haven't checked however). TBH I myself is trying to solve this matter. Numbers I have pulled are from comScore. As far as I remember TFA USA gross is ~$840M + CAN ~$95M to make it $936M. Don't think they will be adding US$ with CAN$. Actually I was once told that this is in fact the case that CAN$ is directly added to US$, which I honestly didn't believe. I asked RTH about it few years back, he also said its US$. Unfortunately I don't have direct access at the moment, so I can't check in detail. I am adding the top grossers list, same I have posted in first page. Spoiler Rank Title Date Cume 1 Avatar 12/18/2009 96,114,000 2 Star Wars: The Force Awakens 12/18/2015 94,344,776 3 Avengers: Endgame 04/26/2019 82,535,750 4 Star Wars: The Last Jedi 12/15/2017 61,979,312 5 Avengers: Infinity War 04/27/2018 61,706,989 6 Marvel's The Avengers 5/4/2012 59,496,090 7 Black Panther 02/16/2018 57,992,028 8 Jurassic World 6/12/2015 57,364,735 9 Rogue One: A Star Wars Story 12/16/2016 55,305,767 10 Lord Of The Rings: The Return Of The King 12/17/2003 52,942,730 11 The Dark Knight 07/18/2008 52,301,368 12 The Lion King 07/19/2019 51,348,605 13 Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers 12/18/2002 48,586,925 14 Beauty And The Beast 03/17/2017 47,568,769 15 The Dark Knight Rises 07/20/2012 46,771,628 My only/biggest rationale for my number being US$ is because there are many late 2000s and early 2000s film in the list due to better exchange rate. Like The Avengers is almost same as IW, despite US gross being 10% higher. or Avatar bigger than TFA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 Since you shared that THR report of yearly box office @Agafin. They seem to be taking the gross they have as CA$ and adjusting in US$. Quote Lifted by Star Wars: The Force Awakens and Jurassic World, Canada's box office earned CAN $988 million (U. S.$699.3 million) in 2015, up 4.5 percent from a disappointing previous-year $945.8 million, but short of the 2012 box office record of $1.094 billion. I am like 99% sure that, the Canada number of $1.02B is US$ because that's what gonna make yearly BO $11.3B. Otherwise, if this is CA$, yearly BO should be around $11B for 2019. This is the number I pulled from comScore back in 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinalera Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Oh my goodness thank you so much for this thread!! Muchly appreciated!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinalera Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 On 11/5/2021 at 10:30 AM, charlie Jatinder said: 2021 as on 04/11 Shang Chi - $24M NTTD - $18M Free Guy - $14M BW - $13M Venom 2 - $12.5M F9 - $12M Dune - $11M Jungle Cruise - $11M Suicide Squad - $10M SC 11% in Canada. NTTD 13% Dune 15% TSS 18% Okay so I just know how to read these numbers, are these ALL Canada only numbers. or only the percentage ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Tinalera said: Okay so I just know how to read these numbers, are these ALL Canada only numbers. or only the percentage ones? All Canada only numbers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinalera Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) So Ill post my dailies from Toronto/SW ontario t-7 in here along with my comps....such as they are. Minions # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 17 86 291 23707 23998 0.0121 Fri 15 84 321 22290 22611 0.0141 Do we have a Canada Lightyear number? EDIT thank you @charlie Jatinder Lightyear 1.93x.75(1.447) Now to reiterate so Im very new to comps so I don't have much comp to go by except for Lightyear at the moment, but this is a start Edited June 24, 2022 by Tinalera added info 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinalera Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said: All Canada only numbers. Okay so noting the "as of date" Im assuming that's total take for each film in Canada, and not just opening Friday. And those percentages are percentage compared to US. Sorry just trying to understand lol Edited June 24, 2022 by Tinalera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) Just now, Tinalera said: Okay so noting the "as of date" Im assuming that's total take for each film in Canada, and not just opening Friday. Yeah total for those films till 4th November. Edited June 24, 2022 by charlie Jatinder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tinalera said: Do we have a Canada Lightyear number? $150K Previews +$600k True FRI = $750K OD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torontofan Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 12:56 PM, charlie Jatinder said: Spider-man: No Way Home Week 1 - $27.6M (Quebec missing since MON) Week 2 - $9.7M Week 3 - $5M (Ontario missing since WED) Week 4 - $1.5M Week 5 - $1M Week 6 - $0.79M 7th Weekend - $0.51M Total - $46.2M Ontario reopen today. Will be interesting how it do. It has probably missed $5M in last 26 days. How much of that it will be able to recover, will see. Quebec reopen next week. Underindexing performance in Canada. One would usually expect Canada to do $75-80M approx. with sort of numbers USA is doing. It has missed on $9M+ till date due to cinema closure in two states for a real value of $55M+, but that's not enough. Even with that it would be ending around $60M, roughly $15-20M short of what it should ideally be doing. Canadians back in Dec were very scared of covid Like if this released now it likely done 70+ million with ease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinalera Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said: Yeah total for those films till 4th November. Thank you. Im seeing these big numbers like the No Way Home by week and thinking "that didn't make 27 million OD in Canada did it???" but okay it made it that week, that makes more sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinalera Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) Thor4 SW/Toronto Ontario T-14 thor4 # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 20 148 6034 24311 30345 0.1988 Fri 20 278 3590 36339 39929 0.0899 Dont really have OD comps. Even if I wanted to do Lightyear or Minions (prolly not applicable ones) I don't have a t-14 for Lightyear and Minions obviously doesn't have a OD yet. EDIT: Just for clarification of what my "SW Ontario" is, its London (x2), Sarnia, Chatham, Windsor, St Thomas, Kitchener, Brantford, Cambridge and Waterloo. Edited June 24, 2022 by Tinalera 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinalera Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Thanks again for this thread. Hoping to regularly post SW/Toronto Ontario updates. Right now Im mainly following the Minions and Thor4. I only have so many hours in the day unfortunately. Im probably going to do a daily count at the t-14 (ish) mark. Im not following NOPE right now (you could saying im NOPING NOPE) until it gets to 2 weeks before, and some ive just outright missed like Elvis and Black Phone. So cant guarantee every film, but will try my best to do what I can. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinalera Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Minions SW/Toronto Ontario t-6 # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 17 86 329 23548 23877 0.0137 Fri 15 84 417 22197 22614 0.0184 Comp Lightyear x1.879 at .750 (1.4 million) Minions still double compared to Lightyear at same point. Will be good once I get more comps to maybe get a better kind of average, but this is a start for me-babysteps lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinalera Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Thor4 SW/Toronto Ontario T-13 (no comps) thor4 # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 20 148 6195 24273 30468 0.2033 Fri 20 278 3830 36238 40068 0.0955 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinalera Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 Minions 2 SW/Toronto Ontario T-5 # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 17 86 400 23474 23874 0.0167 Fri 15 84 544 22072 22616 0.024 Comp x2.155 Lightyear(1.6 Million) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinalera Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 Thor4 SW/Toronto Ontario t-12 (no comps) thor4 # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 20 148 6318 24042 30360 0.2081 Fri 20 280 3945 36180 40125 0.0983 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinalera Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) Minions Rise of Gru SW/Toronto Ontario t-4 # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 17 86 569 23421 23990 0.0237 Fri 15 84 769 21842 22611 0.0341 comp x2.376 Lightyear (1.78 Million) Canada Day this weekend, so seeing bump in numbers as a result esp for Friday Edited June 27, 2022 by Tinalera 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinalera Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) Thor4 SW/Toronto Ontario t-11(no comps) thor4 # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 20 149 6525 24307 30832 0.2116 Fri 20 280 4183 35956 40139 0.1042 Edited June 27, 2022 by Tinalera no comps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) Canada Top Grossers 2022 as of 26 June Top Gun: Maverick - $39.7M Doctor Strange 2 - $36.8M The Batman - $32.6M Jurassic World - $19.7M Uncharted - $17M Sonic 2 - $14.7M Lost City - $10.7M Fantastic Beasts - $10.4M Sing 2 - $10M Bad Guys - $9.3M Spider-man: No Way Home did $24M during the year for $62M final. Edited June 28, 2022 by charlie Jatinder 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...