Fake Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 (edited) dp. Edited October 26, 2012 by Fake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fake Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Why are we lamenting without we have even the first number out?Skyfall will easily outgross QoS. I have faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juni78ukr Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 In Russia Skyfall got 16+ rating. Actually this rating system started to work only a few months ago so we dont know exactly how much it could hurt box office grosses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Gittes Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Oh yeah. It's pretty ridiculous. The government certainly isn't out to solve any real problems so, among other things, it comes up with the "protection of the children" law that's groan-worthy and has no positive effect on anything or anyone whatsoever. Anyway, now all Hollywood PG-13 blockbusters are rated 16+, pretty much all other American and European films, big and small, with the exception of family films, are rated 18+, all the Russian films without obvious and pervasive adult content get 12+, and the family/animated films are 6+ (yep, that's right). There's also an age disclaimer before every single fucking trailer they show in the cinemas. Embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted October 27, 2012 Author Share Posted October 27, 2012 I cant see any reason why SkyFall should gross much more than Battleship, Prometheus or Wrath of Titans. It's just another Bond movie with another villain and another pretty girl. Been there, seen that. Even Madagascar and Ice Age with huge grosses declined in admissions. Any total number hign than 20m would be pretty good.Very good movie and good numbers from QoS four years ago.Battleship and Wrath of the Titans aren't exactly quality movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted October 27, 2012 Author Share Posted October 27, 2012 (edited) Oh yeah. It's pretty ridiculous. The government certainly isn't out to solve any real problems so, among other things, it comes up with the "protection of the children" law that's groan-worthy and has no positive effect on anything or anyone whatsoever. Anyway, now all Hollywood PG-13 blockbusters are rated 16+, pretty much all other American and European films, big and small, with the exception of family films, are rated 18+, all the Russian films without obvious and pervasive adult content get 12+, and the family/animated films are 6+ (yep, that's right). There's also an age disclaimer before every single fucking trailer they show in the cinemas. Embarrassing. Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem. RONALD REAGAN, First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981 Ronald Reagan was right Edited October 27, 2012 by Fullbuster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Gittes Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Russia doesn't put much stock in quality. Legs are similarly non-existent here for pretty much all live-action blockbusters nowadays. Avatar and Inception are the only ones I can remember, right off the bat, that had any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Skyfall will have too. It should hold well till week 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted October 27, 2012 Author Share Posted October 27, 2012 Skyfall will have too. It should hold well till week 3.Yeah, Twilight BD2 should kill its legs on November 15th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Gittes Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 It's not even about competition, it's about being frontloaded. People flock to see the movie in the first week, and by the end of the second week, it should take something special for them not to abandon it completely. Like Avatar's 3D or Inception's ending. I don't see Skyfall having something like that, and simply being a better-than-average Bond movie won't be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted October 27, 2012 Author Share Posted October 27, 2012 It's not even about competition, it's about being frontloaded. People flock to see the movie in the first week, and by the end of the second week, it should take something special for them not to abandon it completely. Like Avatar's 3D or Inception's ending. I don't see Skyfall having something like that, and simply being a better-than-average Bond movie won't be enough.Word of mouth doesn't exist in Russia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juni78ukr Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Word of mouth doesn't exist in Russia? Only a quarter of population go to movies at all. Less than one fifteenth are more or less frequent moviegoers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted October 27, 2012 Author Share Posted October 27, 2012 Only a quarter of population go to movies at all. Less than one fifteenth are more or less frequent moviegoers. Yeah, but : ADMISSIONS IN RUSSIA 2008 135.421 mln 2009 142.514 mln (+5%) 2010 164.786 mln (+15%) 2011 172.156 mln (+4.5%) We see an increase on a year-on-year basis, Russia isn't a developed country, so the potential of growth is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Yeah, but : ADMISSIONS IN RUSSIA 2008 135.421 mln 2009 142.514 mln (+5%) 2010 164.786 mln (+15%) 2011 172.156 mln (+4.5%) We see an increase on a year-on-year basis, Russia isn't a developed country, so the potential of growth is there. Do you have some total admissions extrapolation for this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted October 27, 2012 Author Share Posted October 27, 2012 Do you have some total admissions extrapolation for this year? Juni posted that earler this month : 9 months January - September 29,94 bln RUB vs 25,29 bln in 2011 +18.2% $964,8mln vs 881mln +9.5% 134,2 mln admissions vs 122.6 mln in 2011 If this pace is the same for October-December we'll have 189mln admissions in 2012. 200mln in 2013? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted October 27, 2012 Author Share Posted October 27, 2012 Twilight in Russia :-Twilight New Moon (2009) : $18.6 million-Twilight Eclipse (2010) : $26.4 million-Twilight Breaking Dawn Part 1 (2011) : $31.8 millionDo you think Twilight BD2 could beat BD1? Given the growth of the franchise and the market I would say yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Twilight in Russia :-Twilight New Moon (2009) : $18.6 million-Twilight Eclipse (2010) : $26.4 million-Twilight Breaking Dawn Part 1 (2011) : $31.8 millionDo you think Twilight BD2 could beat BD1? Given the growth of the franchise and the market I would say yes.I would say yes too. Maybe 35 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted October 27, 2012 Author Share Posted October 27, 2012 I would say yes too. Maybe 35 million.Agree, $35m is realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted October 27, 2012 Author Share Posted October 27, 2012 I hope for better-than-expected numbers for Skyfall, after all the country surprised us in the past.Look at The Avengers, some people expected low numbers because former superheroes movies weren't successful, but TA boomed to $43m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
