BO Germany/Austria: Deadpool&Wolverine #1

[James]

1 hour ago, IndustriousAngel said:

omg the first trend from insidekino is so horrible it's near unbelievable ... espacially daytime fare is suffering but evening shows are not that much better.

 

#1: SS - 160k admissions (-70% )

#2: NYSM2 - 85k (ouchhh)

#3: Pets - 65k (-80% )

#4: Shallows - 65k (pretty good actually)

#5: Bourne - 50k (-70% )

 

Pete's Dragon estimated at below 30k - I knew the marketing was lacking but for a Disney releases that's just - words fail me ... Mechanic and Mother's Day 40k each ... what a weekend. Gruesome.

I hope SS will recover. It doesn't seem to have bad WOM. Pets, which has good WOM and is later in it's run (plus a family movie) fell more.

[miketheavenger]

38 minutes ago, James said:

I hope SS will recover. It doesn't seem to have bad WOM. Pets, which has good WOM and is later in it's run (plus a family movie) fell more.

Family movies usually get hurt worse by good weather than action/superhero films, so this isn't really an indication of word-of-mouth. But I hope that it recovers, too.

[efialtes76]

Friday:

 

New Releases:

 

NYSM2:17,567/Thur+Frid=32,703

The Shallows:10,977/Thur+Frid=21,208

Mechanic:10,320/Thur+Frid=20,068

Mother's day:3,713/Thur+Frid=6,202

Pete's Dragon(evening):2,730

 

Holdovers:

 

Suicide Squad:61,484/Thur+Frid=93,634

Bourne:22,258/Thur+Frid=37,453

SLOP(evening):8,018

Schweinskopf :6,913/Thur+Frid=12,879

Edited August 26, 2016 by efialtes76

[Aristis]

29 minutes ago, efialtes76 said:

Friday:

 

New Releases:

 

NYSM2:17,567/Thur+Frid=32,703

The Shallows:10,977/Thur+Frid=21,208

Mechanic:10,320/Thur+Frid=20,068

Mother's day:3,713/Thur+Frid=6,202

Pete's Dragon(evening):2,730

 

Holdovers:

 

Suicide Squad:61,484/Thur+Frid=93,634

Bourne:22,258/Thur+Frid=37,453

SLOP(evening):8,018

Schweinskopf :6,913/Thur+Frid=12,879

That seems to be very good for SS. Even with no increase on Saturday and Sunday it would be more than 200k for the weekend and less than 60% drop (excluding previews).

 

And by the Way, I just recognized SS seems to be a very bad option as a shortcut...

[IndustriousAngel]

2nd trend for Germany not much better but at least SS is at 175k now (-65%, still horrible of course but Schweinskopf is dropping even harder)

[Aristis]

4 minutes ago, IndustriousAngel said:

2nd trend for Germany not much better but at least SS is at 175k now (-65%, still horrible of course but Schweinskopf is dropping even harder)

I do not really understand this trend and the numbers... If those numbers

Suicide Squad:61,484/Thur+Frid=93,634

were true, how could the trend still say 175k?

[efialtes76]

37 minutes ago, IndustriousAngel said:

2nd trend for Germany not much better but at least SS is at 175k now (-65%, still horrible of course but Schweinskopf is dropping even harder)

Only 175k after 93k on Th+Fr?No way!

[Aristis]

No big changes with the 3rd Trend

 

Suicide Squad 175k

NYSM2 85k

Pets at 80k (-74%) now - which is the biggest change. Gets better the longer the weekend lasts.

Edited August 28, 2016 by Aristis

[Aristis]

So, the Monday numbers are again better!

 

Suicide Squad 195k (-61% without previews/-66%) Cume: 940k - BvS (1,53M) is still reachable! It does not seem SS has to bad WOM.

 

Pets 95k (-69%) 2,875M, 2nd for the year! 4M will be tough... But it could double this weekends result if there is bad weather next weekend (it seems that weather will be good again though) It still has 1 month (It really is 1 - Dory starts 29th of September) until (hopefully) huge competition starts.

 

NYSM 2 90k (NYSM1 had 112k admissions - not to bad with this weather)

Jason Bourne 60k (-66%)

The Mechanic 50k

 

And this weekend, while it was the second lowest this year, is just 7% down compared to last year!

Edited August 29, 2016 by Aristis

[el sid]

Maybe Mark_G calculated with worst case multipliers, especially on Friday, and that's the reason why everything improved...
 

Some other numbers:
-The Shallows: 67.5k admissions (thereof 45k over the weekend) - not bad
-I think The Mechanic 2 had no previews so 50k is not even so terrible
-Pete's Dragon: sadly only 35k – maybe too much competition or too serious?
-Mother's Day: 42.5k (thereof 17.5 out of previews) - really bad
-Schweinskopf: 25/300

-IA5: 20/2715

 

As mentioned by Aristis the next weekend is said to be pretty warm and sunny again which makes me happy on the one hand. But I'm really curious what will happen when the first fall weekend comes. It can't take long anymore.

Edited August 29, 2016 by el sid

[IndustriousAngel]

The most shocking number for me is Pete's Dragon ... there was not much publicity but hey, that's Disney we're dealing with, even if the original movie wasn't much of a blockbuster. Compared to the other Disney remakes from the last years (Alice, Cinderella, Jungle Book, Maleficent) this doesn't only pale in comparison, it virtually vanishes .... hell, the Tinkerbell movies open to 5x as many admissions or more! I really don't understand what we're seeing here.

[IndustriousAngel]

Germany's Top20 last weekend:

	title	admissions	th.	PTA	total adm.	total €	drop	week
1	Suicide Squad	194.890	618	315	953.008	9.979.990	-61	2
2	The Secret Life of Pets	101.783	753	135	2.884.918	24.397.827	-67	5
3	Jason Bourne	60.548	592	102	691.720	6.113.424	-65	3
4	Now You Se Me 2	54.631	410	133	93.275	697.695	-	1
5	The Mechanic 2	50.535	270	187	50.535	435.999	-	1
6	The Shallows	43.604	283	154	71.109	517.037	-	1
7	Pete's Dragon	35.026	541	65	35.026	286.997	-	1
8	Conni & Co	27.854	601	46	187.934	1.199.603	-73	2
9	Toni Erdmann	25.166	180	140	477.684	4.313848	-20	7
10	Schweinskopf al dente	24.922	183	136	296.730	2.295.456	-71	3
11	Ice Age 5	19.607	552	36	2.712.266	21.412.936	-71	9
12	L'étudiante et Monsieur Henri	17.737	266	67	433.742	3.256.636	-46	6
13	Mother's Day	16.809	241	70	50.232	383.077	-	1
14	Me Before You	15.604	394	40	2.272.407	17.809.191	-65	10
15	Star Trek 3	14.442	262	55	1.253.357	13.534.327	-70	6
16	Captain Fantastic	13.137	96	137	86.303	614.837	-58	2
17	Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2	12.192	425	29	239.900	2.285.344	-77	3
18	Le Goût des merveilles	10.471	25	419	649.042	4.702.793	+176	25
19	Lights Out	9.886	196	50	322.600	2.713.504	-80	4
20	El Olivo	8.053	76	106	12.068	86.264	-	1

 

Worst weekend in a while; no opener in the Top3 and horrible drops all around with the notable exception of arthouse releases. Pete's Dragon, Mother's Day and NYSM2 are outright flops, The Shallows is weak - only Mechanic: Resurrection, while still weak,  had something resembling a decent PTA.

 

Next weekend: French comedy Un homme à la hauteur; Ben Hur; Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates … Nothing here that could end the slump; weather is looking fine too so no recovery for family stuff either - expect another dreadful weekend.

[Aristis]

Birnenkuchen mit Lavendel

The best PTA with an increase of 176%!!! Open Air?

 

The Suicide Squad drop isn't that bad and its PTA is still good. I don't think WOM is too bad. Shoul have a good drop. But Pets is great! We feared a 80% drop, so this is really good.

 

Connie & Co I don't like her... But the worst thing is TMNT2! PTA 29 - that is just disastrous...

 

But why did Lights Out fall so hard? Should a movie targeting adults not have a better drop?

[el sid]

6 hours ago, Aristis said:

But why did Lights Out fall so hard? Should a movie targeting adults not have a better drop?

 

Maybe it lost many theaters/screens this week? I looked at filmstarts and there it says it is only #21 when it comes to theater counts (162 theaters). For example it lost its screens in mathäser because of all the (bad doing) new releases.

[Aristis]

10 minutes ago, el sid said:

 

Maybe it lost many theaters/screens this week? I looked at filmstarts and there it says it is only #21 when it comes to theater counts (162 theaters). For example it lost its screens in mathäser because of all the (bad doing) new releases.

Yeah I looked it up and while last week it had 311 cinemas this weekend it were 196. But it lost 2/3 of its PTA too.

 

TMNT2 will lose many cinemas next week...

[el sid]

Maybe, just maybe, this weekend will not become such a disaster like the last one was. The estimates via insidekino.de (forum):

New releases:

Mike & Dave: 15k (ok)
Ben Hur: 8k (not so good)
Mein ziemlich kleiner Freund: 1k

Most of the holdovers are doing much better than I thought:

Now You See Me 2: 10.5k (last Thursday 15k)
The Mechanic 2: 7k (10k)

The Shallows: 5k (10k)
Mother's Day: 3k (2.5k – so it increased if these numbers hold )
Suicide Squad: 32k (32k – it stayed flat???)
Jason Bourne: 10k (15k)
Schweinskopf all dente: 6.5k (6k - would be an increase too)
Pets: 4.5k (evening only, 6k also evening only last Thursday)

Edited September 1, 2016 by el sid

[IndustriousAngel]

Staying flat is not that difficult in Europe's weather-driven movie economy. After a horrible drop like last week's, even increases are commonplace.

[el sid]

Yes I know (now), but it was warm and sunny here. I sat on the balcony in the evening like last Thursday. So I'm positively surprised :).

 

 

[IndustriousAngel]

First weekend estimates:

 

#1: SS - 185k admissions (-5%)

#2: Pets - 135k (+35!, yeah!)

#3: WeddingDates - 110k (including previews but #3 should be safe)

#4: Bourne - 65k (+5%)

#5: NYSM2 - 50k (-5%)

 

Pets crosses 3mil and is now officially a blockbuster; Bourne has still chances at 1mil total

Edited September 2, 2016 by IndustriousAngel

[Aristis]

BvS had about 125k-130k admissions on its third weekend - I think - and had 1,325M admissions. And if SS - after a 185k weekend - reaches 1,25M admissions, than it still can overtake BvS

(1.533.202)