el sid Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) Some Thursday actuals: #1 Split: 35k – not that great as estimated but still above expectations #2 RE 6: 18k – even a little bit worse than estimated #3 La La Land: 20.5k - again underestimated, stays almost flat compared to last Thursday #4 xXx: 12.5k #5 Mein Blind Date mit dem Leben: 11.5k … Wendy: 8k HR: 3k Jackie: 2.5k - not so bad Monster Trucks: 2k Oh, I see the first trend is not yet posted: #1 Split 260k #2 La La Land 150k #3 Mein Blind Date mit dem Leben 135k #4 Wendy and RE6 125k # 5 xXx: 110k ... Kundschafter 75k HR 35k - disappointing but no surprise with that treatment Monster Trucks 35k Edited January 27, 2017 by el sid 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 RE6 disappointing, Split within expectations. I had hoped for a further increase from LLL but flat is ok of course. Good for all domestic releases! (I don't know how many but Wendy had a lot of Sneaks / previews, with these numbers it will be behind xXx for the weekend - success anyway) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Giesi said: Do you think we can top 2015? Why not? 2015 had some very strong blockbusters, but the overall admissions of a year need also a broad base, more >1mil earners than 2015 are easily possible (like in 2014) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 2nd trend from insidekino.de is much better - 300k for Split, 180k for Wendy! LLL 3rd with 150k, didn't go up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Others: xXx 120k (-45%) RE 115k Moana 90k (-22%) Plötzlich Papa 85k (-36%) Passengers 80k (-47%) That one will have passed 1M Sing 50k (-31%) RO 35k (again -50%) Maybe 3,85M to Sunday, will pass 3,9M but 4M seem unprobable now... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 Final estimates: Split - 280k Wendy - 160k Mein Blind Date - 155k (wow) La La Land - 150k xXx - 125k 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) ... and final numbers are again a little better for nearly everything! Nice success for the three openers on top, and LaLaLand had a small increase again, 1mil total are safe by now. Excellent, Germany is a difficult market for musicals! In Austria, Split didn't do anywhere near as well, xXx and Why Him stayed on top, Split is only #3. RE6 in contrast did a bit better than in Germany. Edited January 30, 2017 by IndustriousAngel 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Split 270.640 407 665 294.023 2.564.329 - 1 2 La La Land 155.576 279 558 600.644 5.276.200 +3 3 3 Wendy 141.975 531 267 170.322 1.122.835 - 1 4 xXx 3 122.308 560 218 406.362 4.508.376 -44 2 5 Mein Blind Date mit dem Leben 118.639 330 360 165.066 1.333.249 - 1 6 Resident Evil 6 113.267 450 252 113.267 1.302.344 - 1 7 Moana 96.113 674 143 1.699.834 13.207.795 -17 6 8 Demain tout commence 90.338 520 174 683.096 5.647.237 -32 4 9 Passengers 83.586 567 147 1.070.737 10.959.757 -45 4 10 Kundschafter des Friedens 56.589 155 365 82.093 627.547 - 1 11 The Great Wall 52.999 490 108 399.383 4.390.288 -49 3 12 Sing 52.948 575 92 2.241.164 17.769.547 -27 8 13 Monster Trucks 51.186 278 184 51.186 405.743 - 1 14 Why Him? 47.231 388 122 352.069 2.843.888 -48 3 15 Rogue One 41.812 312 134 3.869.260 43.488.336 -41 7 16 A Streetcat Named Bob 38.748 320 121 182.320 1.437.660 -14 3 17 Feuerwehrmann Sam - Außerirdische 35.641 495 72 200.022 1.252.976 -17 4 18 Ballerina 34.460 399 86 156.868 1.073.901 -27 3 19 Manchester by the Sea 30.906 100 309 84.695 719.719 -6 2 20 Willkommen bei den Hartmanns 28.947 395 73 3.474.751 27.980.643 -23 13 Good weekend, a bit crowded with five new releases in the Top10. Split was a big step up for NMS, definitely a success. Wendy shows that the girl/horse combo is always a draw, let's wait for next weekend to judge how frontloaded it was. Both domestic comedies have a fine PTA and should hold well, with only 155 theaters last weekend i can even see a slight expansion for Kundschafter des Friedens. Among holdovers, Moana made near 100k - the 2mil total is not yet dead; only a 17% drop against Wendy is a good sign. Passengers suffered a hard drop but has now crossed 1mil total. And LaLaLand managed an increase, again, and still has a very good PTA - nice! Rogue One seems very close to the 4mil total but I guess it will miss it by a few k. Next weekend: Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk, Hidden Figures, Live By Night, domestic thriller Volt, two smaller horror releases, plus domestic family film / book adaption Timm Thaler - some interesting stuff but no hits so I guess Split and LaLaLand will stay on top. No presales worth mentioning for any of the new releases at my theater … 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giesi Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) InsideKino 2 Std. · ROGUE ONE (3.869.260 Besucher) ist der 6. STAR WARS-FILM nach 78, 80, 83, 99, 15, der der erfolgreichste Film des Jahres in Deutschland ist Rogue One is the 6th Star Wars movie to top the year end charts in Germany. But tbh, this isn't quiet fair, since no movie from the OT crowned the year in their original release. Only if you take account of all re-releases they are ahead of the game. Edited January 31, 2017 by Giesi 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Giesi said: Rogue One is the 6th Star Wars movie to top the year end charts in Germany. But tbh, this isn't quiet fair, since no movie from the OT crowned the year in their original release. Only if you take account of all re-releases they are ahead of the game. And now that it seems sure Fack Ju Göhte 3 gets a 2017 release, SW8 won't have it too easy either - might become a head-to head fight for #1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisman0606 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) I Heard Fack Ju Göhte 3 might be release the same weekend as Thor 3, will that be a problem? Edited January 31, 2017 by chrisman0606 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 31 minutes ago, chrisman0606 said: I Heard Fack Ju Göhte 3 might be release the same weekend as Thor 3, will that be a problem? It will be, for Thor 3 ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 In addition, Hacksaw Ridge is #21 with 20/30k. As I said the film was dumped theater-wise and I did not see one advertisement on TV but I have to admit, obviously there was also no interest. The Passion had 204k/in total 1.35 Mio. admissions despite or because of the controversy so I don't get it. Maybe that HR is WWII related (too dark, too gory) or that A. Garfield isn't really well known here didn't help or the too crowded marketplace or whatever... Probably a Gibson-directed Viking movie with a popular leading actor will do much better... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 I just saw that "Rings" gets more than 300 theaters this weekend ... that's good, and with a lot of frontloading (not unusual for the franchise) it should make it at least to #3 but maybe even to 200k. On the other hand, the last one is more than 10 years past, rarely a good thing for a franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 Ok going by tonight's numbers Rings will be barely over 100k if at all. At my theater, LaLaLand is the bestseller, no opener with any decent business ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) The Thursday estimates (source insidekino.de/forum): New Releases: Timm Thaler: ?k (starts in 550 theaters, good to very good reviews) Rings: 12.5k (304, one bad review) - so indeed it will probably not cross the 100k mark this weekend Live by Night: 2k (165, mediocre and good reviews) Hidden Figures: 8k (132, good to very good reviews) – that's not bad and other reports show the same image Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk: ?k (103, much better than in America → good to very good reviews, despite several complaints nowhere in the high frame rate of 120 frames per second or even 3D) Raees: ?k (only ca. 30 theaters but the film has at least one showtime/day e.g. in mathäser, no reviews) Volt: ?k (25-30, mostly good reviews) Holdovers: Split: 24k (35k) – even if it's overestimated like last Thursday, a good hold is coming La La Land: 18k (20.5k) – was always underestimated in the estimates in the last weeks, but so or so a very good hold is more than likely Resi Evil 6: 8.5k (18k) Mein Blind Date mit dem Leben: 11.5k (11.5) - a very good hold xXx3: 8k (12.5k) Edited February 2, 2017 by el sid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 The soft openers make it easy for holdovers, some good numbers if first estimates from insidekino.de hold: #1: Split - 240k (-11%, excellent, 1mil locked) #2: LLLand - 165k (+6%, 3rd increase, nice) #3/4: BlindDate / Wendy 125k each (-12% for Wendy, slight increase for BD) #5: Rings - 100k Timm Thaler also with about 100k but I think that number includes a lot of previews Of course, next weekend 50shades2 gets the biggest screens and best showtimes so most evening releases are in for hard drops. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Some Thursday actuals (source Blickpunkt:Film) #1 Split: 30k - great, so this time it was underestimated yesterday #2 La La Land: 22k #3 Rings: 15k #4 Mein Blind Date mit dem Leben: 12.5k #5 RE6: 9k #6 Wendy: 8k (stayed flat, good) New Releases: Timm Thaler: 7k Hidden Figures: 7k - weekend estimate in the first trend is 70k, not bad Raees: 4.5k - playing in only 42 theaters! Live by Night: 3k Edited February 3, 2017 by el sid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) 2nd Trend: Split 250k (-8%/-15%) Great second weekend 620k cume La La Land 165k (+6%) 700k Mein Blind Date 130k (+9%-21%) Wendy 115k (-19%-32%) Rings 110k xXx 85k (-30%) Moana 85k (-11%) 1,7M Hidden Figures 75k RE 70k (-38%) Passengers 60k (-29%) 1,15M Sing 40k (-25%) 2,3M RO 25k (-40%) 3,9M Great holds for nearly all movies, even good holds for xXx or RE! And Rings is too a bit better that feared... Edited February 4, 2017 by Aristis 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giesi Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Compared to RO (3,9M), I expect 5 movies to finish with higher admissions this year: Star Wars8 7,5M / FJG3 6M / DM3 5,5M / BatB 4,5M / Bully 4,0M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
