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BO Germany/Austria: Spider-Man wins weekend and crosses 3mil total in Germany

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One of regular member in there predict around 65k admission for Friday, do you guys think that will made 350-400k for this weekend possible ? Also how much increase from Fri-Sat usually for this kind of film  ?

 

They also seem predict around 4-5x multiplier for Tenet. 

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Probably everybody thought the second trend was already posted by someone else ;).

 

#1 Tenet - the estimate stays the same: 300k+
#2 I Still Believe 30k (even under normal circumstances this performance would be a success for that kind of movie)
#3 Max und die Wilde7 20k
#4 Die Boonies - Eine bärenstarke Zeitreise 17.5k
#5 Paw Patrol - Mighty Pups 15k
#6 Follow Me 15k
#7 Meine Freundin Conni - Geheimnis um Kater Mau 15k
#8 Scooby! - Voll verwedelt 10k

These 65k are a very rough estimate... But I saw that in the South-West-reports Tenet did quite well on Friday compared to e.g. Pirates of the Caribbean 5 (675k 5 day OW) which had 3.907 admissions in the selected theaters vs. 1.807 for Tenet (46%).
And the weather is way worse this weekend than it was back then.

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Germany's Top20 last weekend:

 

title

admissions

 

th.

PTA

total adm.

total €

drop

week

1

Tenet

318.572

 

792

402

379.461

3.780.830

-

1

2

I Still Believe

33.844

 

492

69

143.500

1.137.866

+14

3

3

Paw Patrol - Mighty Pups

22.032

 

449

49

211.823

1.095.796

+44

8

4

Max und die Wilde 7

22.021

 

606

36

90.111

587.734

+40

4

5

Die Boonies

19.290

 

423

46

19.332

130.807

-

1

6

No Escape

18.906

 

254

74

39.710

334.808

+38

2

7

Meine Freundin Conni - Geheimnis um Kater Mau

17.975

 

491

37

259.914

1.666.978

+54

9

8

Scoob!

11.245

 

266

42

158.990

1.015.586

+11

8

9

The Secret: Dare to Dream

10.113

 

324

31

59.840

485.649

-12

4

10

The Wretched

9.185

 

293

31

49.362

397.837

-15

3

11

Ausgrissn! In der Lederhosn nach Las Vegas

7.566

 

109

69

31.237

248.711

+12

3

12

Onward

7.474

 

109

69

372.843

2.782.705

+8

26

13

Mestari Cheng

6.728

 

183

37

63.201

498.510

+5

5

14

Takeover - Voll vertauscht

5.886

 

226

26

153.841

1.078.883

+11

9

15

Unhinged

4.903

 

229

21

125.768

1.002.574

-42

7

16

Nightlife

4.382

 

135

32

1.348.081

11.494.610

-45

29

17

un divan à Tunis

4.190

 

106

40

36.234

292.314

+27

5

18

Die Känguru-Chroniken

3.950

 

124

32

781.831

6.590.396

-7

26

19

Radioactive

3.757

 

173

22

73.087

581.000

+10

7

20

Schlingensief - In das Schweigen hineinschreien

3.611

 

62

58

11.356

91.593

+5

2

Heyho, a lifesign from the comatose boxoffice! Really good opening from Tenet, plus increases from many holdovers. Even if we take into account that nasty weather drove people to the movies, that was an ok weekend - about 35% down from the corresponding one last year, but with seating restrictions and overall cautious audiences, I'd say that is better than what we could reasonably expect. Family movies continue to collect their trickling numbers, in many cases for totals that wouldn't seeem half bad in a normal year!

Next weekend: Tenet should have a good hold, but there will be some competition for screens from teenie release After We Collided - the first one in this franchise opened nearly as big as Tenet did this weekend, so there's a realistic hope we could see two movies with >200k admissions next weekend!

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It looks like IndustriousAngel is right. According to all forum reports After Truth/After We Collide looks very healthy preview-wise and also today and Tenet is also doing quite fine.
E.g. in the South-West-report (which worked good last weekend) Tenet had today 898 admissions in the selected theaters. Last week it were 1.286 (so -30%). Mark_G predicts a decline of (only) 30% too.
The weather is said to become mixed over the weekend.

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The Monday update:

#1 After Truth 290k (with previews). After Passion had 327.294 admissions incl. previews.
#2 Tenet 235k (stays #1 moneywise). So far 735k total admissions.
#3 I Still Believe 18k
#4 Follow Me 17.5k 
#5 Die Boonies - Eine bärenstarke Zeitreise 17k

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Germany's Top14 last weekend:

 

 

 

title

admissions

th.

PTA

total adm.

total €

drop

week

1

After We Collided

237.576

511

465

290.165

2.462.854

-

1

2

Tenet

235.392

795

296

737.482

7.293.868

-26

2

3

I Still Believe

18.017

514

35

173.547

1.377.453

-47

4

4

Follow Me

17.254

273

63

62.475

531.435

-9

3

5

Die Boonies

16.843

473

36

42.030

281.536

-13

2

6

Max und die Wilde 7

15.761

572

28

112.214

731.563

-28

5

7

Meine Freundin Conni

14.182

461

31

279.576

1.795.180

-21

10

8

Scoob!

10.592

268

40

172.657

1.101.246

-6

9

9

After

8.329

114

73

1.027.701

8.369.617

+

74

10

Boże Ciało

7.387

76

97

9.440

75.245

-

1

11

The Secret: Dare to Dream

6.101

282

22

69.953

569.366

-40

5

12

Onward

5.933

166

36

380.575

2.836.153

-21

27

13

The Wretched

5.857

239

25

57.086

463.891

-36

4

14

Mestari Cheng

5.652

200

28

72.201

570.023

-16

6

In the end, it was a very close finish between the teen romance and the SciFi Agent thriller. A 26% drop for Tenet is good but I had hoped for something better; After We Collided otoh surpassed expectations; the PTA is extremely good for Covid19 times - in fact, even under normal September conditions, those 290k admissions to date would be a fine number, only 11% down from the first installment.

Next weekend: Two weeks after Warner took the risk with Tenet, Disney follows on a smaller scale with The New Mutants. Given the smaller budget, the risk is actually a lot smaller, but still, a further glimmer of hope for the boxoffice. But given the relatively unknown property and the declining trend of the X-Men movies, we shouldn't expect too much, this week's top 2 will stay on top very safely (Tenet probably with the better hold). I'd consider something like 75k admissions a success.

I Don't have Austria's actuals for last week yet but the week before, Tenet was opening substantially higher than in Germany (50k admissions until Sunday, compared to Germany's 380k, that's about 30% higher/capita, usually such productions are more like 10-15% ahead)

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10 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Film Institute Austria has weekend as FSS, so why Mojo is using TFSS. 

really no idea - afaik both get their numbers from Rentrak. But I stopped following mojo some years ago, they were'nt really that interested in international numbers, much misinformation, miscalculations or simply mistakes and so on - I wouldn't put it above them to simply have no idea that it's only a 3-day-weekend in Austria compared to Germany's 4-day.

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6 minutes ago, IndustriousAngel said:

really no idea - afaik both get their numbers from Rentrak. But I stopped following mojo some years ago, they were'nt really that interested in international numbers, much misinformation, miscalculations or simply mistakes and so on - I wouldn't put it above them to simply have no idea that it's only a 3-day-weekend in Austria compared to Germany's 4-day.

Though Austria is fairly small, so it doesn't matter that much, but if its 4 days then for a film reporting after 1st weekend Thursday-Sunday will be used, else just normal FSS. For some like France its 5 days.

 

Anyways Germany is $8.6mn so far, with $2.8mn 2nd weekend. Should leg out $17-19mn right? there won't be much of competition I guess.

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The first trend:

#1 Tenet 150k (-34%)/970k total admissions including Sunday
#2 After Truth 125k (-47%)/495k total admissions
#3 New Mutants 35k (far under the expectations)

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other new releases:
Faking Bullshit 17.5k
Love Sarah 7.5k
The Photograph 6k

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Austria

 

 

rank title Lend week Visits weekend Total visits
1 Tenet Warner bros 2 21691 95201
2 After Truth Constantin 1 24876 47992
3 Scooby! Fully refined Warner bros 8th 5807 45868
4 Follow me Poly film 3 4238 18152
5 My friend Conni - the secret of Mau the cat Const / WildB 5 3985 30266
6 Boonies, Die - A powerful journey through time unicorn 2 3387 9882
7 I still believe Const / STCanal 4th 2733 34543
8 Secret, The - Dare to dream Const / WildB 5 2058 33505
9 Max and the Wild 7 Const / Leonine 4th 2090 12315
10 Once upon a time revolutionaries 1 / Movie store 2 1326 7700
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Germany's Top10 last weekend:

 

title

admissions

th.

PTA

total adm.

total €

drop

week

1

After We Collided

150.982

581

260

521.091

4.377.583

-36

2

2

Tenet

142.439

799

178

960.794

9.487.114

-39

3

3

BTS: Break the Silence

44.246

225

197

44.246

556.339

-

1

4

New Mutants

37.670

440

86

37.670

332.072

-

1

5

No Escape

12.022

243

49

79.241

677.720

-30

4

6

Die Boonies

10.105

498

20

55.025

366.109

-40

3

7

I Still Believe

8.966

416

22

189.450

1.503.944

-50

5

8

Max und die Wilde 7

8.442

529

16

123.114

802.708

-46

6

9

Meine Freundin Conni - Geheimnis um Kater Mau

7.409

434

17

289.397

1.859.367

-48

11

10

Scoob!

7.028

265

27

181.399

1.156.197

-34

10

Beautiful weather led to steep drops. New Mutants opened way under my (already low) expectations. Overall not a good weekend, even if the Teen drama does way better than could be hoped for.

Next weekend: A new Bibi Blocksberg movie - the children's books are well loved and the 2002 adaption went on to >2mil total, so maybe there's a chance for a domestic #1. The Outpost doesn't look too promising, maybe it can beat the New Mutants' numbers. Weather will be mostly sunny, probably the last summery weekend, so overall not a good weekend for the movies. And the Seberg biopic looks interesting, but if it openes inside the Top5 I'd be surprised.

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