POTUS 2020 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 5 hours ago, NCsoft said: Thanks for your analysis, is that estimated YTD figure in RMB or USD? Also is it until around now or estimated until around Sep 30? Est thru Sept 30 in RMB. Up 4% in dollars 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lihongkim Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Feng Xiaogang's movie moved to Nov. 18th. Oct won't be safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 3 hours ago, Lihongkim said: Feng Xiaogang's movie moved to Nov. 18th. Oct won't be safe. Last oct did over 4B with GML doing 1.4b, LiHK making 700m(in Oct) and AM making over 600m. Based on PS it doesn't look like there will be a 1.5B movie this holiday and no SS to make up for AM. Oct could be down over 1B putting the year at +6% and nearly flat in dollars. Storks PS at 1.6m. Still looking like a teens OD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 China Box Office Jason Bourne Day Date Rank Gross % - YD % - LW Gross-to-Date Day # Weekly Gross % - Change USD / M USD / M USD / M Mon Aug . 22 1 $0.61 - - $0.61 0 $49.31 - Tue Aug . 23 1 $11.20 - - $11.81 1 Wed Aug . 24 1 $7.53 -36.22% - $19.34 2 Thu Aug . 25 1 $5.90 -21.60% - $25.24 3 Fri Aug . 26 1 $6.69 13.37% - $31.93 4 Sat Aug . 27 1 $9.61 43.56% - $41.54 5 Sun Aug . 28 2 $7.77 -19.12% - $49.31 6 Mon Aug . 29 2 $3.34 -57.07% - $52.64 7 $14.38 -70.83% Tue Aug . 30 2 $2.99 -10.38% -74.68% $55.63 8 Wed Aug . 31 2 $2.45 -18.14% -67.50% $58.08 9 Thu Sep . 1 2 $1.92 -21.54% -67.47% $60.00 10 Fri Sep . 2 5 $0.90 -53.33% -86.61% $60.90 11 Sat Sep . 3 3 $1.57 74.79% -83.70% $62.46 12 Sun Sep . 4 4 $1.23 -21.63% -84.21% $63.69 13 Mon Sep . 5 4 $0.47 -61.72% -85.91% $64.16 14 $2.89 -79.93% Tue Sep . 6 4 $0.47 -0.64% -84.38% $64.63 15 Wed Sep . 7 3 $0.44 -6.45% -82.15% $65.06 16 Thu Sep . 8 3 $0.41 -6.90% -78.82% $65.47 17 Fri Sep . 9 6 $0.27 -33.33% -69.75% $65.74 18 Sat Sep . 10 5 $0.46 69.44% -70.67% $66.20 19 Sun Sep . 11 5 $0.38 -18.03% -69.33% $66.58 20 Mon Sep . 12 5 $0.14 -62.80% -70.19% $66.72 21 $0.52 -82.01% Tue Sep . 13 5 $0.15 7.53% -67.74% $66.87 22 Wed Sep . 14 9 $0.05 -67.02% -88.63% $66.92 23 Thu Sep . 15 12 $0.06 12.70% -86.23% $66.97 24 Fri Sep . 16 13 $0.06 8.80% -77.53% $67.03 25 Sat Sep . 17 12 $0.04 -30.24% -90.75% $67.08 26 Sun Sep . 18 13 $0.02 -53.92% -94.80% $67.10 27 Mon Sep . 19 14 $0.01 -33.08% -90.65% $67.11 28 $0.05 -91.31% Tue Sep . 20 14 $0.01 0.34% -91.27% $67.12 29 Wed Sep . 21 14 $0.01 -25.54% -80.29% $67.13 30 Thu Sep . 22 15 $0.01 -6.92% -83.72% $67.14 31 ExRate: $1=¥6.6407 Total Gross = $67.14M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisman0606 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Looking at Entgroup daily gross for September 23 it the grosses for that day is low with no film over $2 million USD, it seems like it is going to be a shitty weekend at the box office before the national holiday next weekend. http://english.entgroup.cn/boxoffice/cn/daily/?date=09 /23 /2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 12 hours ago, chrisman0606 said: Looking at Entgroup daily gross for September 23 it the grosses for that day is low with no film over $2 million USD, it seems like it is going to be a shitty weekend at the box office before the national holiday next weekend. http://english.entgroup.cn/boxoffice/cn/daily/?date=09 /23 /2016 It's got to be the lowest Friday of the year at ¥52m. Storks only made ¥4.8m STB 1.8m/ 427m Feels like the novelty of going to the movies has waned coupled with it hitting the BO/GDP ratio ceiling. Just as it did at the end of 1930s in domestic when it experienced the biggest ticket sales per capita after talkies came out. March 1 to date is down from last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Saturday numbers: A Chinese Odyssey: Part 3 - ¥18.05M/¥324M SoulMate -¥16.25M/¥128M Storks - ¥15.4M/¥20.25M Z Storm 2 - ¥13.8M/¥176M Star Trek Beyond - ¥3.9M/¥431M Nine Lives - ¥2.93M/¥105M The Shallows ¥1.8M/ ¥97M 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) On 9/20/2016 at 11:51 PM, No Prisoners said: Tuesday numbers: A Chinese Odyssey: Part 3 - ¥11.5M/¥276M Z Storm 2 - ¥8.6M/¥138M Star Trek Beyond - ¥1.9M/¥421M Nine Lives - ¥1.5M/¥98M The Shallows ¥1.1M/ ¥92M Ice Age: Collision Course - ¥.2M/¥444M Bourne 5 ¥.1/¥447M JB5 and IA5 will close on Thursday with JB edging out IA in gross. IA5 has edged out Minions(¥436m) from last Sept. ST3 has 1 more week. It will have close to just 2% of shows and will crawl close to ¥440M just short of JB and IA. Just curious when is the last day for ST3? Edited September 25, 2016 by Newbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Newbie said: Just curious when is the last day for ST3? Oct.2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroids Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Why are the presale numbers for the upcoming movies so low? Even really bad movies got at least 3x that months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Weekend Box Office(Sep.23-25/2016) (million) Rank Movie Weekend¥ Wknd $ Change +/- Total¥ Total $ 1 A Chinese Odyssey: Part 3 (China) 43.80 $6.56 -64% 338.98 $50.75 2 Z Strom II (China) 38.42 $5.75 -13% 141.44 $21.17 3 Storks (US) 34.75 $5.20 NEW 34.76 $5.20 4 Z Strom II (China) 34.29 $5.13 -48% 187.80 $28.11 5 Cock and Bull (China) 23.37 $3.50 -44% 122.49 $18.34 6 Chibi Maruko-chan (Japan) 18.97 $2.84 NEW 18.99 $2.84 7 Star Trek Beyond (US) 9.03 $1.35 -61% 433.99 $64.97 8 Nine Lives (US) 6.72 $1.01 -58% 107.76 $16.13 9 Bastille Day (France) 5.24 $0.78 NEW 11.84 $1.77 10 The Shallows (US) 4.33 $0.65 -51% 98.54 $14.75 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 National holiday golden week is not looking good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lihongkim Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 14 hours ago, Polaroids said: Why are the presale numbers for the upcoming movies so low? Even really bad movies got at least 3x that months ago. I'm wondering about this too. As always, L.O.R.D will have huge OW and then fall like a rock. But with that pre-sale, it won't even have huge OW. Can't believe it's pre-sale is lower than "I Belong to You". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) 21 hours ago, Polaroids said: Why are the presale numbers for the upcoming movies so low? Even really bad movies got at least 3x that months ago. 6 hours ago, Lihongkim said: I'm wondering about this too. As always, L.O.R.D will have huge OW and then fall like a rock. But with that pre-sale, it won't even have huge OW. Can't believe it's pre-sale is lower than "I Belong to You". As I said in earlier posts. Could be the novelty is waning. When 3d came out Alice did 400m dom/1b WW after Avatar exploded. 70% saw it in 3d. After a couple of years the percentage dropped to 30 and 3d no longer bumps a movie that much. The BO was $300m 12 years ago. 2b just 5 years ago. With 7b last year, that's a lot of people going for the first time and flocking to whatever titles are playing regardless of quality for additional theater experiences. As tastes matures the movie goers become more selective. It happened in the 1940s in domestic. After WW2 the box office wasn't the same size and the movies they made(lots of slap stick) in the 30s no longer played well. They had to come up with better stories, different genres, more color and CinemaScope to bolster the BO. To this day there have never been so many tickets per capita sold than the 30s. Part of it was the depression but the novelty of talkies played a large part. Like a market bubble where people are piling into a market until it pops, the rush maybe over for the new movie going experience as theaters have finally saturated the first thru fourth tier cities. After a drop in attendance, which looks like will occur from March 1 this year thru next CNY, we'll see a flattening followed by a few percent growth per year. In a market bubble there is usually one last big price spike and then it pops. Feb's CNY was huge. Up 66% YoY with 3 movies doing big numbers at the same time. It was an exciting month. Since then I sense a "meh" feeling in the numbers. Edited September 27, 2016 by No Prisoners 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroids Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 On 9/27/2016 at 4:26 PM, No Prisoners said: As I said in earlier posts. Could be the novelty is waning. When 3d came out Alice did 400m dom/1b WW after Avatar exploded. 70% saw it in 3d. After a couple of years the percentage dropped to 30 and 3d no longer bumps a movie that much. The BO was $300m 12 years ago. 2b just 5 years ago. With 7b last year, that's a lot of people going for the first time and flocking to whatever titles are playing regardless of quality for additional theater experiences. As tastes matures the movie goers become more selective. It happened in the 1940s in domestic. After WW2 the box office wasn't the same size and the movies they made(lots of slap stick) in the 30s no longer played well. They had to come up with better stories, different genres, more color and CinemaScope to bolster the BO. To this day there have never been so many tickets per capita sold than the 30s. Part of it was the depression but the novelty of talkies played a large part. Like a market bubble where people are piling into a market until it pops, the rush maybe over for the new movie going experience as theaters have finally saturated the first thru fourth tier cities. After a drop in attendance, which looks like will occur from March 1 this year thru next CNY, we'll see a flattening followed by a few percent growth per year. In a market bubble there is usually one last big price spike and then it pops. Feb's CNY was huge. Up 66% YoY with 3 movies doing big numbers at the same time. It was an exciting month. Since then I sense a "meh" feeling in the numbers. I think that in L.O.R.D.'s case, it also has something to do with the fact that mo-cap films aren't new to Chinese audiences and this first attempt from China is seen as inferior by the audience and they're already comparing it to western-made movies. I watched the movie's trailers on youtube and you'd be surprised at the number of dislikes and comments from Chinese people because they find the attempt embarrassing. Even the fans of the actors in the movie are less than enthused because they're not excited to see choppy CGI-ed versions of their favorite stars. I'm not sure this movie has an audience at all. It's not appealing to both fans and the general public. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Thursday numbers: I Belonged to You - ¥75.1M/¥77.5M Legend of Ravaging Dynasties - ¥8.8M (2-hour previews) Z Storm 2 - ¥2.8M/¥207M A Chinese Odyssey: Part 3 - ¥2.5M/¥360M Storks - ¥1.1M/¥43.4M Star Trek Beyond - ¥0.8M/¥436M 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Friday numbers: I Belonged to You - ¥62M/¥138M Legend of Ravaging Dynasties - ¥65.2M (including 8.6 previews) Operation Mekong - ¥36M/¥37.5M Mission Milano - ¥22.6M previews Storks - ¥0.97M/¥44.4M 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Saturday numbers: I Belonged to You - ¥90M/¥231M Legend of Ravaging Dynasties - ¥73.8M/141M Operation Mekong - ¥59.7M/¥100.2M Mission Milano - ¥45M/67.8M Storks - ¥6.1M/¥50.6M 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerPaw Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 28 minutes ago, Olive said: Saturday numbers: I Belonged to You - ¥90M/¥231M Legend of Ravaging Dynasties - ¥73.8M/141M Operation Mekong - ¥59.7M/¥100.2M Mission Milano - ¥45M/67.8M Storks - ¥6.1M/¥50.6M Heard Operation Mekong is fudging... Warcraft did the same too.. But no1 is doing anything except than for Ip Man 3.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 5 minutes ago, TigerPaw said: Heard Operation Mekong is fudging... Warcraft did the same too.. But no1 is doing anything except than for Ip Man 3.. Yeah, I bought a ticket for 19 yuan, but counted 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...