The Toymaker Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Totally fine with that. So I will be waiting for 2 weeks worth of TE2 numbers. I am sure that mtime and entgroup will give something for the week ending 30th Sep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Yea, I don't get the record talk for Looper either. Do they mean for a film that opened day and date in each country? Because, as Algren said, Expendables 2 made more in China OW than it did in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Violence Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) AFAIK the "record" talk is coming exclusively from Nikki Finke, and while it's not clear where she got her numbers from, I'm betting somebody somewhere mistook a 25 million RMB weekend projection for 25 million USD. If they're making a U.S. dollar projection for the entire week, I'd love to know how they're so confident as to make such a prediction within a $2m range. Anyway, suffice to say the U.S. opening weekend (around $20 mil, give or take a couple) will comfortably blow away the Chinese opening weekend. The opening week numbers might come out in China's favor, but then again, so what? It's not like the U.S. is having a weeklong holiday too. As for The Expendables 2, direct comparisons are iffy because it opened on a Tuesday in China, but if you compare its first six days in China to its first six days in the U.S. -- which includes its entire first weekend in both markets -- you end up with about $25 million versus $37 million. Titanic 3D (which opened on a Tuesday in China and a Wednesday in the U.S.) did way, way better on its first six days in China ($74m versus $28m), but I suppose you could argue it "doesn't count" because it was a reissue. Or maybe neither film counts because they weren't day-and-date releases in China. But the basic issue here is that Finke and her "source" just don't know what they're talking about. Edited September 30, 2012 by Bob Violence 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Toymaker Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Even BOM is reporting the same mistake now. When will it end? and when will someone other than me and a people on here see that it's the RMB total that will reach 25m, not the dollar total.FYI, BOM is saying "this weekend". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Overseas the convention is to treat everything till the first official number as weekend gross, which in most cases is Upton first Sunday. But this is a particular case since nothing will be reported till next Sunday in China. So the 10-day gross may very well be what they mean by "this weekend."A guy from the local distributor explicitly said that Chinese opening was 'on track of' beating US opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Toymaker Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Yeah but it's not.I do not see any interest in the headline "China 10-day BEATS US 3-day". So reporting this is just trying to make a story when there isn't one.Plus, even if they do mean the gross until its 2nd Sunday, there is no way to tell that. It's not even looking like it will make $15m by next weekend, let alone $25m! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 (edited) Weekly (9.24-9.30) estimates:1. TaiChi / 太极 33m yuan $5.24m ---- 4 days2. The Assassins /铜雀台 31m yuan $4.9m --- 5 days3. Looper 27.2M yuan $4.3m ----- 3 days4. Dangerous liaisons / 危险关系 26m yuan $4.1m ---- 4 days5. White Deer Plain 白鹿原 24m yuan $3.8m ---- 7 days6. Double Xposure / 二次曝光 17m yuan $2.69m ---- 2 days and previews Edited October 1, 2012 by firedeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Toymaker Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 (edited) Looper gets $4.3 in 3 days...yeah, there's no way it's getting $23m in 10 days. lol at Nikki Edited October 1, 2012 by The Toymaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 7. TE 2 17M yuan $2.7m Cume ~ 321.1m yuan ~ $51m 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Toymaker Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Thanks firedeep.Was that from mtime, SARFT or entgroup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 Thanks firedeep.Was that from mtime, SARFT or entgroup?Nope, from insider directly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Toymaker Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Ok.When it is from mtime, SARFT, or entgroup, can you let me know?Much appreciated for this update 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 Ok.When it is from mtime, SARFT, or entgroup, can you let me know?Much appreciated for this update Tuesday afternoon. And next Tuesday if not. Hope the people there didn't get holiday layoff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POLYLOVE Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 'Looper' Box Office in China Bigger than U.S. at $24M http://movies.yahoo.com/news/looper-box-office-china-bigger-u-24m-174645723.html "Starring Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Bruce Willis, Looper is a Chinese co-production between Jim Stern's Endgame Entertainment and China's DMG. The movie opened No. 1 in China with an estimated $24 million, several million more than its U.S. bow of $21.2 million." http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/foreign-box-office-resident-evil-retribution-hotel-transylvania-taken-liam-neeson-375216 what's this?! huge mistake, embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 7. TE 2 17M yuan $2.7m Cume ~ 321.1m yuan ~ $51mClose to reaching TASM now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 'Looper' Box Office in China Bigger than U.S. at $24M http://movies.yahoo....-174645723.html "Starring Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Bruce Willis, Looper is a Chinese co-production between Jim Stern's Endgame Entertainment and China's DMG. The movie opened No. 1 in China with an estimated $24 million, several million more than its U.S. bow of $21.2 million." http://www.hollywood...m-neeson-375216 what's this?! huge mistake, embarrassing. So fucking embarrassing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 lol... it is one thing one person twisting the facts and over-optimistically projecting but completely another thing that all major sites are publishing it without even checking it. They should be hiring people from this forum because they evidently know more than these supposed 'trade experts'. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Yeah but it's not.I do not see any interest in the headline "China 10-day BEATS US 3-day". So reporting this is just trying to make a story when there isn't one.Plus, even if they do mean the gross until its 2nd Sunday, there is no way to tell that. It's not even looking like it will make $15m by next weekend, let alone $25m!I know. It probably won't make 25m even by the end of its run.Somebody needs to be fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Any info on how PROM is doing, guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 Any info on how PROM is doing, guys?quite big drop. Probably added another $1M or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...